RVU Conversion

[masterPain]

Can someone help assist converting CPT to RVU? Isn’t there a table?

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[au bon pain]

RVU Calculator - AAPC Relative Value Units

CPT® RVU calculator provides a quick analysis of the work relative value units associated with a certain volume of CPT or HCPCS codes.

www.aapc.com

 

[masterPain]

RVU Calculator - AAPC Relative Value Units

CPT® RVU calculator provides a quick analysis of the work relative value units associated with a certain volume of CPT or HCPCS codes.

www.aapc.com

Appreciate you!

 

[1 Up]

Download the CMS files here: PFS Relative Value Files | CMS

 

[Ducttape]

yes, but very bulky and difficult to review. if you look at the document, fwiw, 99204 is line 18707.

scroll down to bottom of page and upclick the Excel sheet 4 times (or so), depending on the document size.

column F is RVU (ie wRVU)

 

[masterPain]

I’m looking at at MGMA. It appears median is around 20k/RVU per year? Doesn’t that seem like a lot?

 

[clubdeac]

I’m looking at at MGMA. It appears median is around 20k/RVU per year? Doesn’t that seem like a lot?

I don’t understand what you’re saying. The average number of wRVUs per yr is 20k? Is that what you’re saying

 

[BobBarker]

20k is too many. Median wrvu isn’t a fair metric as hospitals do whatever they want with g2211 and the 2021 e&m coding change.

 

[mdo1738]

I’m looking at at MGMA. It appears median is around 20k/RVU per year? Doesn’t that seem like a lot?

Median is a pain doc producing 20k RVU a year? Not even Bob produces that much. If I recall, median is more like 7-8k

 

[BobBarker]

I produce more than 20k. I produced around 18.4k before g2211 at the hospital.
I am probably close to 30k in private practice. But that doesn’t matter anymore

 

[BoardingDoc]

I’m looking at at MGMA. It appears median is around 20k/RVU per year? Doesn’t that seem like a lot?

No idea where you're seeing that. My MGMA data is old (2019) but it shows median RVU at 6,825 and median $/rVU at 68.49. There's no way that median production tripled in the past 6 yrs. It's probably still somewhere around 7-8k/yr.

 

[SpineandWine]

I produce more than 20k. I produced around 18.4k before g2211 at the hospital.
I am probably close to 30k in private practice. But that doesn’t matter anymore

You alone or your team?

 

[lobelsteve]

I'm going to 10000 or less starting in June.
Hello Cerner.

 

[clubdeac]

Our hospital is so inefficient I can’t really do more than 10-11k without killing myself. Been fighting to do procedures past 4pm for 2 yrs

 

[BobBarker]

By myself. I see around 50 per day. I’m just extrapolating based on my past known 18k plus. That was working 4 days a week.

I’m working 5 days a week and busier.

 

[BobBarker]

I start at 7am with a big case when the clinic is empty and quiet. Leave at 4:00.

 

[SpineandWine]

You’re doing double my work
My work is semi-communist, so not large of incentive to work hard

 

[Ronin1]

bob works hard. I see about 5000 patients a year. Should be a bit over 12k wrvu with the g code. I guess if I worked 5 days a week it would be around 14-15. Not worth the squeeze

 

[lobelsteve]

BOB FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Of Pain.
Crushing it.

 

[SpineandWine]

I’m not sure I could see that many.
I may have to pick your brain on that efficiency- though for procedural side, I’m limited by hospital

For clinic side, I only have 2 rooms I can flip between
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If you do telehealth, does it pay same as regular office visit?

 

[masterPain]

What am I missing?

 

[DODOCSS]

total vs. work

 

[paindoc007]

By myself. I see around 50 per day. I’m just extrapolating based on my past known 18k plus. That was working 4 days a week.

I’m working 5 days a week and busier.

What an insane work schedule. Props tho, not hating. Just not for me. I’d be north of 1.5M /year with that productivity

 

[BobBarker]

I’m only do surgeries on Friday. It is a bit of a break.

 

[masterPain]

total vs. work

So this would be transitioned/total RVUs?

Can someone give me a MGMA percentile for work RVUs?

 

[buddababa]

View attachment 403631
What am I missing?

thats total rvu, you want wrvu

 

[buddababa]

So this would be transitioned/total RVUs?

Can someone give me a MGMA percentile for work RVUs?

search this forum, plenty of files/pdfs/etc

 

[oreosandsake]

So this would be transitioned/total RVUs?

Can someone give me a MGMA percentile for work RVUs?

it's regional but about 8k

 

[clubdeac]

By myself. I see around 50 per day. I’m just extrapolating based on my past known 18k plus. That was working 4 days a week.

I’m working 5 days a week and busier.

Do you have 2 fluoro rooms going simultaneously?

 

[BobBarker]

No, just one. One staff member helping me with fluoro.

 

[masterPain]

• Median (50th percentile): ~7,000–8,000 wRVUs
• 75th percentile: ~10,000–12,000 wRVUs
• 90th percentile: ~14,000–16,000 wRVUs
• 95th percentile: ~17,000–18,000 wRVUs
• 99th percentile: Typically around or just above 19,000–20,000 wRVUs

 

[hopefulgasman]

The average is not hard to hit at all. I work 4 days a week (still 1.0 FTE), last patient at 330P, HOPD, on track to hit >8K wRVU, 2020 schedule too (would expect 9-10K if using 2021), 5 weeks vacation. I take my time and chat plenty with my patients who like talking about the weather, hunting, and topics unrelated to their pain. Our job is really hard to beat.

 

[PMROralBoards]

I hit between 750-800 wrvu per month if no vacation days and work Monday - Thursday… Still ramping up though. 9 work weeks of vacation.

 

[clubdeac]

The average is not hard to hit at all. I work 4 days a week (still 1.0 FTE), last patient at 330P, HOPD, on track to hit >8K wRVU, 2020 schedule too (would expect 9-10K if using 2021), 5 weeks vacation. I take my time and chat plenty with my patients who like talking about the weather, hunting, and topics unrelated to their pain. Our job is really hard to beat.

Is it breach of contract that they are still paying you on the 2020 model? Wage theft? I’d look at your contract very closely. They likely have been ripping you off about $50k annually