RVU - UT vs PNWU-COM

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  • RVU - UT

    Votes: 12 42.9%
  • PNWU-COM

    Votes: 16 57.1%

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So I did post this in the X vs. Y thread but after a few days and no responses, posting here for more visibility.

I'm accepted at these schools and have been wrestling the decision the last few weeks. I want to decide by 5/1 when the final $1000 deposit is due.

I'm a non-trad going the DO route after no love from MD schools. Not crazy about FM or primary care (though who knows maybe my tune will change). Currently my interests are general surgery/trauma, EM, and IM (cards specifically). Looking for any objective feedback on my two options.

RVU-UT
Pros
  • academics from CO campus appear strong, board scores and recent match lists are very competitive for DO, feel the curriculum will prepare me best for boards (I know this also rests largely on the individual but school does play into it too)
  • require USMLE
  • rural and wilderness medicine track speaks to me, see myself being a doc living in a ski town in twenty years
  • brand new facilities w/ focus on hands on training via sim labs, full cadaver dissections
  • lots of recreational things outside of school for the very few free hours a month (hiking, golfing, biking, skiing)
Cons
  • rotations not set, very uncertain
  • ~half of lectures will be simulcasted from CO campus (per dean at interview), this may work for some, but I learn best by going to live lecture, not crazy about "tuning in"
  • pre-clinical grades assigned (A/B/C), though this could be motivating in some respects
  • no upper classes to consult with on campus (could reach out to CO students but different when they aren't there in the building)
  • research opportunities unknown (DO, so limited anyway), aiming to get another 1-2 publications during school to help with residency (currently have 2, journal of vascular surgery and Am. journal of cardiology)
  • desert location (I'm very fond of 4 seasons of weather), not to mention 100 F weather + business casual dress code isn't great
  • didn't get to see facilities as still under construction
PNWU-COM
Pros
  • location much more my style, 4 seasons of weather
  • allows me to develop relationships in an area I could see myself living (Pac-NW) and where its hard to integrate into as an outsider later for residency from what I have read
  • pass/fail, no pre-clinical grades, slightly less stressful, all lectures in person
  • upper classes present on campus, able to give input/feedback/tips
  • also many recreational opportunities
  • nice, newer building (though not brand new), full cadaver dissections
Cons
  • mixed reviews on rotations
  • during interview day seemed to be a large focus on OMM, as a future DO I'll train in it, but I'm not on the OMM train as of now (maybe my tune will change)
  • simulation training not as robust, no surigical sim suite, though still offered
  • heavy focus on primary care/FM, match list less impressive
  • does not require USMLE and at interview felt like there was very little emphasis on it ("all programs are required to accept COMLEX, so you don't need to bother with USMLE")
Non-factors:
  • cost, both are about the same and as of now loans are not needed
  • location w/r to family/SO. I moved across country for college and was never "home sick". My focus is school, the rest of life will work itself out.
Final Thoughts: As of now, I'm leaning toward RVU based of its seemingly stronger academics and that graduates seem to match very well. However, I also know that a larger part of school is being happy in your environment so that is what PNWU offers me.
 
What part of the country do you live in now? I believe pnw gives pnw residents first priority on clinical rotations and out of region are second choice. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that could impact your decision.


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What part of the country do you live in now? I believe pnw gives pnw residents first priority on clinical rotations and out of region are second choice. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that could impact your decision.

Currently live on east coast, grew up in MT.



Any particular reason(s)? My hunch is established rotations?
 
I would go PNWU. I am from Utah, and IMO southern utah blows, especially if you want 4 season weather. Sounds cool and all when you look at the pictures of the beautiful red rocks and canyons but, I doubt with the RVU curriculum you would even be able to enjoy that. Also, the rotations not being set at RVU would be enough to drive me away from that school. There would be ZERO research opportunities in southern utah (though I doubt there are a ton in yakima), and I think the P/F curriculum would be great and allow you to try and focus on boards or research or whatever instead of grinding away for your classes.
 
Even though RVU Utah is associated with RVU, it is a BRAND NEW school. Don't risk your money and time. Go to PNWU
 
I think about 70% of the lectures will be streamed from CO for the first 2 years with the eventual goal of it being 50% after that.
 
I would say RVU actually. PWNU will give you the crap rotations because out of region people get the scraps after everyone else gets their pick, and Yakima just straight up sucks. I've lived their and will never go back. You get more of the 4 seasons in southern Utah than you think. The research opportunities at both schools will most likely be equally negligible.

The only draw I see for PWNU is the P/F curriculum and that wouldn't be enough to have me choose PWNU.
 
Thanks everyone for your input, appreciate your thoughts!
 
Currently live on east coast, grew up in MT.




Any particular reason(s)? My hunch is established rotations?
PNW takes 75% of their students from the WWAMI states so be sure you use your Montana roots to get your foot in the door. (Yes, I know this as fact)
 
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