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How are you all getting your 25 SA-CME credits. It seems like the only way is to do them at meetings or shell out 20 bucks per credit to ASTRO for red journal articles.

 

[user_name]

In the words of my favorite philosopher, Deion Sanders, "Must be the money."

 

[medgator]

How are you all getting your 25 SA-CME credits. It seems like the only way is to do them at meetings or shell out 20 bucks per credit to ASTRO for red journal articles.

there apparently is a big online collection at the ASTRO website. $50/pop though.

https://www.astro.org/Educational-Resources/Online-SAMs/index.aspx

where did you find the $20 ones?

edit: nevermind. Some are $20, some are $50 it seems. The credits at the ASTRO meeting were $35.

 

[1r1d1um]

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=res&pag=dis&ItemID=103223

 

[Gfunk6]

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=res&pag=dis&ItemID=103223

I love this comment after the article!

"The ABR believes in the [monetary] value of Maintenance of Certification"

 

[Brim]

per the ABR:
"In addition to ABR prequalified SAMs, the ABR will count all AMA Category 1 CME activities in “enduring materials” (including web-based and print) and “journal-based CME” formats toward the MOC self-assessment requirement."
(See: MOC Bronchure, MOC FAQ.)

So, my understanding of it is that any web-based CME credit will count toward the SA-CME requirement.

I believe that those Neil Love CDs/Podcasts -- "Breast Cancer Update", "Lung Cancer Update" and the like (found here) -- will count toward this requirement, since they're web-based enduring materials and provide self-assessment. Moreover, they're free, so I think they're a good way to earn the SA-CME credits without having to shell out the big bucks. You can easily get all of your CME requirements just by going through these CDs -- more than 40 credits per year (and you only need 25 in three years).

 

[radiaterMike]

CME is different than SA-CME, so not sure of those updates count. SA-CME needs to be designated as such to count. You can get it through designated IJROBP or PRO papers (through ASTRO web site), or ASTRO live or web-based sessions (annual meeting, refresher course, etc). For all, you have to pay for SAM credits. I have no clue why you would need to pay if you are an ASTRO member (aside from watching web based material if you did not attend the ASTRO meeting), since you already paid for the Red J and PRO (through ASTRO membership) and the ASTRO meeting (if you indeed attended).

 

[radiaterMike]

Thanks for the clarification on this. It has definitely become confusing

 

[seper]

Another CME question! Does anybody know an CME activity that would satisfy 2 things: be SA-CME (as discussed above) and be in area of patient safety/risk management? Thanks in advance.

 

[Gfunk6]

I wanted to resurrect this thread to re-engage on free SA-CMEs. I'm already shelling out money to ASTRO and ABR and I don't want to spend more.

Selected articles in the Red Journal are designated SA-CME eligible. Is there no way to earn this without shelling out additional money to ASTRO?

Other thoughts/approaches/insights appreciated.

 

[seper]

Highly recommend Research to Practice, they are free. Most lectures are heavily MedOnc-oriented, but check out Breast Ca Update and Lung Ca for some worthy local management discussion.

 

[Brim]

I wanted to resurrect this thread to re-engage on free SA-CMEs. I'm already shelling out money to ASTRO and ABR and I don't want to spend more.

Selected articles in the Red Journal are designated SA-CME eligible. Is there no way to earn this without shelling out additional money to ASTRO?

Other thoughts/approaches/insights appreciated.

Do the Neil Love "Breast Cancer Update" CDs. They count as SA-CME, and best of all they're free. You can get a ton of CME this way since they have a number of issues per year on a number of topics (in addition to Breast cancer, there's GI cancer, Prostate, H&N, CNS, Ovarian ... ) -- so much, in fact, that you don't have to do any other CME.

 

[CharlestonRadOnc]

To all of the newly minted DABRs out there....

I highly recommend getting a subscription to the New England Journal of Medicine... you can do up to 20 free SA-CMEs per year... basically you can read great disease site summaries (Pancreatic Cancer, etc) and fill out an online quiz .... this will definitely fulfill the SA-CME requirement. I signed up for a year for 70 bucks, which is much cheaper than paying for SA-CMEs on the ASTRO website.

Hope that's helpful,

CRO

 

[medgator]

Check with ABR MOC people via phone today...it does not have to be listed as SA-CME. As long as its web or print and question based it will count with a designation or not. This allows things like research to practice that was posted to count towards your SA-CME without having to spend the money ASTRO is asking you.

As an aside, it's pretty embarassing that ASTRO feels the need to charge for Red Journal articles for members already paying for this. The ACS does not do this with surgical SA-CME's.

Do the Neil Love "Breast Cancer Update" CDs. They count as SA-CME, and best of all they're free. You can get a ton of CME this way since they have a number of issues per year on a number of topics (in addition to Breast cancer, there's GI cancer, Prostate, H&N, CNS, Ovarian ... ) -- so much, in fact, that you don't have to do any other CME.

Thanks for the clutch information. For those of us who graduated in 2010, certified in 2011, ABR will be doing a look-back in March to confirm you are a compliant with MOC. You'll need 25 SA-CMES as part of the 75 CME credit requirement.

 

[medgator]

Is there a way to input credits for SA-CME at the ABR MOC website?

Edit: emailed the ABR, I guess they disabled that after Jan 4th 2016:

"On January 4, 2016, the ABR released a simplified attestation in myABR. With simplified attestation, all you will have to do is attest (by clicking 'I Attest') to completing all MOC requirements such as Part 2 (earning 75 CE credits, 25 of which are self-assessment within the last three years). You can no longer manually enter licensure, credits or PQI information into your myABR account. You may export your previously entered credits into an excel spreadsheet by clicking the 'Lifelong Learning' tab, followed by the export hyperlink."