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dtrack22 said:
I euthanized my cat after it got hit by a car and it cost about $1 for the ammunition
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You didn't euthanize your cat, you murdered your cat. This is where I would normally insert a crack about podiatry...but it's too easy 🙂.
 
I hate to say it, and I certainly don't agree with it but at least up here in some of the hick towns of New hampshire, death by bullet is a pretty common fate for animals. Cats, dogs, horses, sheep, goats, you name it, I know people who have done it. A lot of it happens in big snow storms, when it takes the vet 3+ hours to make a half hour drive-- most people figure it's better to just put the poor animal out of its misery sooner rather than later. A well-placed bullet is certainly more humane than letting certain patients suffer. When large animals are hit by a car and severely injured, the cops certainly don't wait for a vet to be called, they take matters into their own hands, so to speak.

Anyway, I certainly don't appreciate the joke about it, just wanted to bring up a valid point. Your animals passing should have NOTHING to do with cost/money/the cheaper option. Letting them go without pain should be far more important.
 
dtrack22 said:
Thanks to everyone who made this thread such an enjoyable read. Some of the personal shots were hilarious, glad people keep giving one another ammo...speaking of ammo, I euthanized my cat after it got hit by a car and it cost about $1 for the ammunition. $120 for them to do it at a vet does seem pretty steep lol

edit: to be fair I did try all treatmet options given to me by the vet (mostly various steroids) before I put it down.
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Go back to your lame podiatry board. *****.
 
dtrack22 said:
Thanks to everyone who made this thread such an enjoyable read. Some of the personal shots were hilarious, glad people keep giving one another ammo...speaking of ammo, I euthanized my cat after it got hit by a car and it cost about $1 for the ammunition. $120 for them to do it at a vet does seem pretty steep lol

edit: to be fair I did try all treatmet options given to me by the vet (mostly various steroids) before I put it down.
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Go back to your lame podiatry forum. *****.
 
The cat was immobile and had lost all bowel control. Would have had to live on a litter box never moving the rest of it's life...vets prognosis after treatments not mine. Growing up in a "hick" town I'm a good enough shot to put the animal down in a very humane manner. Ringing a small animals neck was and in some places still is considered humane. Anything that is fast and as far as we know painless can be considered a "good death" (as the Greeks would say). I noticed these comments are largely coming from pre-vets...you guys need to grow up before you have to put down animals (and if you are doing large animal that can mean shooting and butchering, well someone else will do the butchering) on a fairly regular basis. I only joke because this thread and many of it's posters are a joke who take themselves a little too seriously.
 
dtrack22 said:
I only joke because this thread and many of it's posters are a joke who take themselves a little too seriously.
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Pot...meet kettle.
 
I have no problem with using a well-placed (!!!) bullet as a means of euthanasia. However, most people would object to taking their pet for one last trip to the vet and having their last memories of their beloved pet being the vet blasting Fluffy's brains out. There are also legal and safety issues involved with using firearms in populated areas, not to mention the problem of restraining the animal adequately to ensure that the first shot is a kill shot. Therefore, most people use drugs to euthanize animals, and it takes time, skill, equipment, and money to place a catheter and administer a controlled substance.

I'm not sure what you find funny about the situation, but I'm sorry for your loss and your cat's suffering (before being shot).

BTW, I'm sure the gun was not free, and you were only able to use it on your cat because at some point you (or a relative or friend) had spent a chunk of change on it. You also acknowledged that, growing up in a "hick town", there was a decent time investment involved in being able to maintain the gun and handle it properly to ensure a safe, accurate discharge.
 
eventualeventer said:
I have no problem with using a well-placed (!!!) bullet as a means of euthanasia. However, most people would object to taking their pet for one last trip to the vet and having their last memories of their beloved pet being the vet blasting Fluffy's brains out. There are also legal and safety issues involved with using firearms in populated areas, not to mention the problem of restraining the animal adequately to ensure that the first shot is a kill shot. Therefore, most people use drugs to euthanize animals, and it takes time, skill, equipment, and money to place a catheter and administer a controlled substance.

I'm not sure what you find funny about the situation, but I'm sorry for your loss and your cat's suffering (before being shot).

BTW, I'm sure the gun was not free, and you were only able to use it on your cat because at some point you (or a relative or friend) had spent a chunk of change on it. You also acknowledged that, growing up in a "hick town", there was a decent time investment involved in being able to maintain the gun and handle it properly to ensure a safe, accurate discharge.
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^ 👍
 
They use a cash knocker to euthanize animals for slaughter; a gun is just a more elaborate concept. I've no problem with euthanization via gun as long as it's to the brain and the person is a good shot (AKA they don't miss and frighten or worse, wound, the animal).



I only joke because this thread and many of it's posters are a joke who take themselves a little too seriously.
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You should check out the medical forum if you think we're funny. It's a riot over there.
 
Lol those forums are too much fun...nothing like disagreeing with a pre-med student to start a glorified pissing match that they'll call a debate 😀
 
I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on the subject, but do you think that the health care debate will change how Americans view veterinary medicine?
 
Wolphcats said:
I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on the subject, but do you think that the health care debate will change how Americans view veterinary medicine?
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Yep! People are going to start expecting their vet visits to be free just like their own healthcare (even though its not and we are all paying for it by taxes)
 
luplodw said:
Yep! People are going to start expecting their vet visits to be free just like their own healthcare (even though its not and we are all paying for it by taxes)
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Could always use the argument of "your health care is free, so you'll have more to spend on your pet." I'm sure it will work on someone.
 
dtrack22 said:
Lol those forums are too much fun...nothing like disagreeing with a pre-med student to start a glorified pissing match that they'll call a debate 😀
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seriously, go onto the pre-allo forum and start a debate about how podiatry is sooooooooooooooo much better. pre-vets will only make a few jabs here and there about how animals are more fun than feet, 'cause we're all pretty used to dealing with crazy ignorant people and what they think of vet med. a lot of the pre-md's on the other hand, are running entirely on ego. i've met a few who really think they're going to be the real House M.D. :shrug:
 
More of they'll be talking to a lady in line at the grocery store, she'll say "My kids are hungry so I'm buying them food!" then they'll get a twinkle in their eye and make some analogy about neutrophils being hungry so they eat, and eat, and eat and when they run out, they start attacking the bodies own cells then BAM, Lupus.


Formulaic as it is, I still love the show. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess.
 
HopefulAg said:
More of they'll be talking to a lady in line at the grocery store, she'll say "My kids are hungry so I'm buying them food!" then they'll get a twinkle in their eye and make some analogy about neutrophils being hungry so they eat, and eat, and eat and when they run out, they start attacking the bodies own cells then BAM, Lupus.
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Come on. We all know its NEVER Lupus!
 
House knows that. Some pre-med wanna-be doesn't.



While we're on the subject:
"Damn it Otto, you're an alcoholic! Damn it Otto, you have Lupus! One of those doesn't fit."
 
HopefulAg said:
More of they'll be talking to a lady in line at the grocery store, she'll say "My kids are hungry so I'm buying them food!" then they'll get a twinkle in their eye and make some analogy about neutrophils being hungry so they eat, and eat, and eat and when they run out, they start attacking the bodies own cells then BAM, Lupus.


Formulaic as it is, I still love the show. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess.
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:laugh: That sounds about right and yet I still LOVE the show. I actually have all the seasons on DVD except 5; I can not wait for it to start back up again.
 
david594 said:
Come on. We all know its NEVER Lupus!
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At the vet clinic I worked at a dog with nasal inflammation and ulceration turned out to be lupus, diagnosed by ISU. I was shocked... Its never lupus! lol.
 
jpeterman13 said:
:laugh: " The median expected salary for a typical Physician - Podiatry in the United States is $155,068. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."- Taken from Salary.com

$155,068 for treating the foot (aka not being smart enough to get into med school)
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Ok, I don't want the wrath of the pre-vets on this threat to come down on me (like the pre-podiatry member) but I full heartedly disagree with this statement. Not being smart enough to get into medical school?

We are all aspiring to become professionals in a field we have passion for, no? That is why this we all stand up so strongly by our chosen field as showcased in this thread. It's incredibly disheartening to hear such things as so and so is not "smart" enough to do what we assume is the default path for the "smarties".

I'm just saying, we should all be respected equally for simply choosing to enter the world of healthcare regardless if it is an MD, DO, VMD, PharmD, DMD etc. Intelligence doesn't seperate us, but our individual passions do.
 
Agreed, ieatkimbap. And extra points for saying "VMD" 😉
 
ieatkimbap said:
I'm just saying, we should all be respected equally for simply choosing to enter the world of healthcare regardless if it is an MD, DO, VMD, PharmD, DMD etc. Intelligence doesn't seperate us, but our individual passions do.
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Just to give a bit more background info... via the magic of the interwebs, other forum posters found that the unfortunate pre-podiatrist troll you're referring to admitted that, in his opinion, most people that go to podiatry school go that way because they were unable to pursue a more "prestigious" degree. This coming straight from a person who seems to now hate the vet field because he couldn't "make it" himself. So while people shouldn't be bashing each other's career choices, the comments are pretty much directly aimed at the foot-troll because of many hypocritical statements he made with an attempt to demean veterinarians (with such things as accusing DVM/VMDs for making too much money, among others) while podiatrists make more money in a field that is undeniably easier to get into. It touched a nerve with a lot of the pre-vetters, and perhaps some responses should have been less rude, the message was the same and expected.
 
ieatkimbap said:
Ok, I don't want the wrath of the pre-vets on this threat to come down on me (like the pre-podiatry member) but I full heartedly disagree with this statement. Not being smart enough to get into medical school?

We are all aspiring to become professionals in a field we have passion for, no? That is why this we all stand up so strongly by our chosen field as showcased in this thread. It's incredibly disheartening to hear such things as so and so is not "smart" enough to do what we assume is the default path for the "smarties".

I'm just saying, we should all be respected equally for simply choosing to enter the world of healthcare regardless if it is an MD, DO, VMD, PharmD, DMD etc. Intelligence doesn't seperate us, but our individual passions do.
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Ok, so I agree that my opinion could have been delivered with more candor...but I still agree with the basic message that I was trying to send. Saying "smart enough" was a bad way to put it. It is not a mystery that it is easier to get into pod school than most other professional schools (pod schools even recruit students to TRY to fill their seats) and it is the backup for med/dent students. Brodiatrist accidentally even posted that in his forum. I've never met someone who wanted to be a podiatrist from the get go...it's always plan B. They want to go to med school, they take the MCAT a few times, do poorly, so they go to podiatry school. There is nothing wrong with that at all. But when the average MCAT scores for entering pod school are in the mid to low 20's (as opposed to the low 30's for med schools) one cannot help but see what I was getting at. So, yes, I agree that my post wasn't PC (with the "smart enough" statement) because I'm sure that there are some very intelligent podiatrists...and if I offended anyone with that apologies all around 😳. I can't help but feel that you didn't read this whole thread because 1) I explicitly said that I have nothing against podiatrists 2) there were SEVERAL other comments that said the exact same thing regarding pods.

Thank you TheEvilShoe, for clearing things up a bit 🙂
 
jpeterman13 said:
Thank you TheEvilShoe, for clearing things up a bit 🙂
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Yeah, I took most of the pod bashing as Brody bashing. A kind of sarcastic come back to his brash judgements against all vet meds because all of us are so evil to want to get paid for providing services, well, except his family who are the saints of the veterinary world. I actually hope there are people out there who had some great experience with podiatry that love the field and want to give that great experience to others. I can easily believe that is possible; I worshiped the ground my PT walked on when she taught me how to compensate for poor biomechanics that changed me from an unathletic klutz to a regular runner and through hiker.

I took the specific comment about income as directed more to the concept Brody put out about pods treating people regardless of whether or not people could pay for it. Obviously, at a 6 figure income, someone somewhere is paying for that care, whether it is through insurance, only seeing patients with the income to pay, or some other settlement, pods aren't working for free as Brody thought vets should.
 
JPeterman, I find your comment/apology here a little ironic, considering your defense of Caribbean vet schools in another thread. If you change your comment to the following, it's a little funny:

"It is not a mystery that it is easier to get into [Caribbean vet schools] than most other professional schools...and it is the backup for [vet] students.. I've never met someone who wanted to [go to a Caribbean vet school] from the get go...it's always plan B. They want to go to [a US vet] school, they take the [GRE] a few times, do poorly, so they go to [a Caribbean] school."

See how that could come off as kind of jerky and superior towards students attending Ross/SGU? I just think it's important to not make criticisms too broad - just because someone else indicts an entire field based on bad experiences with a few people doesn't mean you need to, right?
 
nyanko said:
Only after the clinic closes for the night. 😉
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No, no, no! You've got it all wrong...
you know that jar for "donations" to the local shelter, to help the poor puppies and kitties that nobody loves?
Well, it's all a scam. The vets pocket that money, since they don't get paid a salary, and work out of the goodness of their little hearts.
 
jpeterman13 said:
I've never met someone who wanted to be a podiatrist from the get go...it's always plan B. They want to go to med school, they take the MCAT a few times, do poorly, so they go to podiatry school.
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I can't really tell if you are being sarcastic because it being online and all. I have a cousin who is a podiatrist who... believe it or not... actually wanted to be one from the get-go. She got a 35 on her MCAT. So I guess that proves this theory wrong.

Be careful what you say on here. Jpeterman13, as much as you might not want to study feet for a living, as one veterinarian I know says, "people think I am weird for wanting to wrestle pigs and sheep and squeeze anal glands for a living." There is a need for every occupation out there, and luckily, everyone has their own cup of tea.
 
sumstorm said:
Yeah, I took most of the pod bashing as Brody bashing.
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Yea, that was kinda the point 😛. I just jumped on the bandwagon back in Nov. and thought that giving some numbers (albeit unreliable) would be helpful in our conversation...I guess not. It was all Brody bashing because that dude is LAME.

Pandacinny said:
JPeterman, I find your comment/apology here a little ironic, considering your defense of Caribbean vet schools in another thread. If you change your comment to the following, it's a little funny:

"It is not a mystery that it is easier to get into [Caribbean vet schools] than most other professional schools...and it is the backup for [vet] students.. I've never met someone who wanted to [go to a Caribbean vet school] from the get go...it's always plan B. They want to go to [a US vet] school, they take the [GRE] a few times, do poorly, so they go to [a Caribbean] school."

See how that could come off as kind of jerky and superior towards students attending Ross/SGU? I just think it's important to not make criticisms too broad - just because someone else indicts an entire field based on bad experiences with a few people doesn't mean you need to, right?
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I see your arguement...but they are different things. Someone wanting to go to med school and not getting in so they go into podiatry (MD or DO to DPM) is not the same as going to vet school in the caribbean after you were unable to attend a US vet school (DVM to DVM). It is a plan B, but not in the same way. You still exit as a vet, right?. And I did not intend on it coming off as jerky or superior to students attending caribbean school. Since I will more than likely be going to Ross, it would be hypocritical for me to talk crap about them. I can see what you are saying about being too broad though and I offer my sincere, non-ironic, non-sarcastic apology. :smack:And I want to AGAIN add the disclaimer that I have nothing against pods. I've been to a pod before and had a great experience.

luvgoldens482 said:
Be careful what you say on here. ...So I guess that proves this theory wrong.
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thanks for the tip. And no, one case does not prove my OPINION wrong. That's great that she got a 35, but...
WesternU Adm said:
The average overall GPA of our charter class was 3.24 and the average science GPA was 3.14. The average MCAT was 22.
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Granted this was the charter class, but this also comes from the pre pod forum
handoverfist77 said:
She should be able to get in with those scores. I know of 1 person at my school with a 2.7 gpa and 21 mcat.
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and these were the scores that were being referred to
Science GPA is 3.09
Cummulative GPA is 3.18
MCAT: 18
How else can these scores be explained? If these people were all about pod from point A, then is it just because they know that the bar is traditionally lower?

OF COURSE there are people that have focused on pod their whole career, did awesome in undergrad and the MCAT, and got to do what they wanted to do...but I really don't think that it is the norm. I will leave it and say that it is a generalization that was too broad and there is OBVIOUSLY a number of applicants that are gung ho about podiatry from the start. One could argue that someone who really wanted to go to med school would go to a caribbean school before they switched their career path. But who knows.
 
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Jochebed said:
Haven't sorted through all the troll posts from earlier in the thread (really...why does anyone respond to that garbage? don't feed them and they'll go away)
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Boredom. Well, specfically, avoidance of a task. Lesser of two evils at that moment.
 
StartingoverVet said:
This thread seems to be the pinnacle of Brodiatrists career in pre-vet.
He makes some pretty good points, but in a troll-like manner that I appreciate.
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All these posts are tl; dr
This whole thread is tl; dr
I need cliffnotes
 
StartingoverVet said:
who are you? And what did you do with WZ?
The WZ I knew would read entire WW threads. This should be child's play.
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I actually got like 3 pages in. But this WZ is busy!
 
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