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Other than table height, lighter lead etc. any tips on saving our backs. After a long day doing procedures my back really hurts. It’s muscular no doubt. I’m only 7 years in, could get to be a problem
 
georgiamd said:
Other than table height, lighter lead etc. any tips on saving our backs. After a long day doing procedures my back really hurts. It’s muscular no doubt. I’m only 7 years in, could get to be a problem
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You need to use/work those muscles. Back exercises are boring but effective. Kayaking is fun and effective. Make sure you do the correct stroke technique, a proper kayak stroke uses your core not your arms.
 
Make sure and take the lead off between cases. Use the stool to examine people and do tests such as the SLR.
 
Infab revolution ki armor isn’t too bad. My new lead from them is heavier than my old lead however. I think they had to have added a layer to increase durability
 
I have used two piece and find it definitely easier on the lower back. But more trouble to take on and off. Maybe best if you keep your lead on for a while idk.
 
Tighten the core lead straps regularly.
Consider Traction depending on your pathology.
Even out your daily schedule(ie keep procedures less than 15/day)
 
One piece is for the REAL men.
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I Honestly thought that this thread was going to be about figuratively saving a docs back. Like you bailed somebody out of bad situation LOL
 
A one-piece lead is better for your back if used properly. There should be zero weight on your shoulders and the entire thing rests on your hips. So many people wear lead incorrectly.

Fwiw, I also use a soft pad to stand on during procedures and don't bend at the waist.
 
Dead lifts and squats. And bent over rows. saved my back And maybe my life...also stretching every night, which I don’t always do...
 
looking to buy a lead apron myself. Is there any benefit to getting a 1.0mm Pb thickness vs. 0.5 mm? didnt find answers to this topic around here.
The infab rep said it was overkill, but I wanted to get some of yall's thoughts on this matter.
 
georgiamd said:
Other than table height, lighter lead etc. any tips on saving our backs. After a long day doing procedures my back really hurts. It’s muscular no doubt. I’m only 7 years in, could get to be a problem
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I tend to think muscle pain comes from strenuous activity. It sounds like you’re having pain with standing unless your procedures involve acrobatics. The first thing I’d do is presume it isn’t a muscle, then try to spread the procedures over multiple days per week if you can.
 
core exercises - I do planks (or what remotely resembles a plank) and crunches in the morning. don't forget to work the quads too. wall sits.

I do exercises that I know my patients will be able to do on a daily basis.


a good pair of shoes with good support is important, especially if standing on hard OR floors.

Gandalf, get 0.5 mm lead. much lighter.

limit fluoro time, cone down and use pulse when possible, and stand back when fluoro is lateral, and you should be fine.
 
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Laryngospasm said:
Make sure and take the lead off between cases. Use the stool to examine people and do tests such as the SLR.
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bad advice.

off and off 50x/week? no thanks. just sit in between cases.

yes, do all the exercises, but make sure the table isnt too high or too low. you should not be leaning over the table. that is #1.
 
SSdoc33 said:
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bad advice.

off and off 50x/week? no thanks. just sit in between cases.

yes, do all the exercises, but make sure the table isnt too high or too low. you should not be leaning over the table. that is #1.
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depends on what you are doing between cases.
 
SSdoc33 said:
sure. i wouldnt recommend burpees or yardwork with a lead gown
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We work out sometimes with a weighted vests, or at least used to. now the closest thing I have is working out in my lead , Don’t knock it...
 
All good comments.

I realized my job plus basketball was destroying my back. There is likely a two hit/insult process going on, as usual. Make lifestyle changes or activity modifications like we recommend every 30 minutes to our patients .

Arching the back , and wag the tail are my go to back stretches...
 
10KHertz said:
All good comments.

I realized my job plus basketball was destroying my back. There is likely a two hit/insult process going on, as usual. Make lifestyle changes or activity modifications like we recommend every 30 minutes to our patients .

Arching the back , and wag the tail are my go to back stretches...
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Finger roll vs 2 handed jam. Def saves back. Or play old farts like ductape
 
10KHertz said:
All good comments.

I realized my job plus basketball was destroying my back. There is likely a two hit/insult process going on, as usual. Make lifestyle changes or activity modifications like we recommend every 30 minutes to our patients .

Arching the back , and wag the tail are my go to back stretches...
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Basketball has made me stiff as hell. I havent played this much basketball in years. I feel it in my ankles and my low back. Also when I take charge, I feel like **** the next day. Good thing the only charge I take is from a 13 year old that is skin and bones...

I just forgot how much it rattles your whole spine going up for rebounds and landing semi flat etc... but my left hand has gotten a lot better off the dribble
 
I remember showing up to the “over 30” basketball league in my town... I am not short, but I was a child compared to these monsters. The shortest guy after me, was 6’3. These dudes were all talking about their college basketball days where they walked onto their division 3 teams... so no NBA players there, but holy he’ll was it a different world. I should have just left. It WAS NOT FUN. I got elbowed, beat up, arguing over fouls... I left and never came back...
And I don’t think they were 30...
I need an over 50 league (I’m 45)
 
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Jcm800 said:
I remember showing up to the “over 30” basketball league in my town... I am not short, but I was a child compared to these monsters. The shortest guy after me, was 6’3. These dudes were all talking about their college basketball days where they walked onto their division 3 teams... so no NBA players there, but holy he’ll was it a different world. I should have just left. It WAS NOT FUN. I got elbowed, beat up, arguing over fouls... I left and never came back...
And I don’t think they were 30...
I need an over 50 league (I’m 45)
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In my town it’s called the B team...
I still have neck pain after somebody brought me down in a headlock after a rebound . Take up tennis .
 
When I hit 45 had to give up hoops completely as too much wear and tear on the knees, Now I play the old man "sport" of Golf, On the plus side at least now I don't have to wait until the game is over to drink a Beer.
 
10KHertz said:
In my town it’s called the B team...
I still have neck pain after somebody brought me down in a headlock after a rebound . Take up tennis .
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Living where you live, you can play golf pretty much year-round. Unfortunately we have four months that we can probably play golf, and 50% of the time it’s raining. That’s why indoor activities like basketball are always good, but I think I am at the end of the line
 
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Jcm800 said:
Living where you live, you can play golf pretty much year-round. Unfortunately we have four months then we can probably play golf, and 50% of the time it’s raining. That’s why indoor activities like basketball or always good, but I think I am at the end of the line
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Don’t fret. I can perform a discography and inject some mesenchymal cells if you like...
 
Definitely had to give up Bball. To much risk to back and knees. Seeing all the ridiculous ways people get hurt like tripping over their cat made me realize it just wasn’t worth the risk.
 
Laryngospasm said:
Definitely had to give up Bball. To much risk to back and knees. Seeing all the ridiculous ways people get hurt like tripping over their cat made me realize it just wasn’t worth the risk.
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I worry about the Achilles...
 
I used to compete in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and had to quit. Can't do Muay Thai any longer...Years of my life spent sweating and dying and I miss it daily.

I do yoga, jump rope, run, and do kettlebells now. I take off lead as often as I can.

There are no secrets to protecting your back other than basic ergonomic measures; you cannot prevent lumbar strains or flares.
 
lonelobo said:
When I hit 45 had to give up hoops completely as too much wear and tear on the knees, Now I play the old man "sport" of Golf, On the plus side at least now I don't have to wait until the game is over to drink a Beer.
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We used to beat up kids when I was growing up who played basketball, as we considered it to be a girl's game (still is). One of my childhood pals used to be on the receiving end of that periodically; he went on to be a pretty good D1 collegiate player and played in the NBA as well. However, given the fact he was a basketball player, we all considered him to be a fairy.

My wife played basketball in highschool and college, but she is a girl, so it was okay.
 
hawkeye2009 said:
We used to beat up kids when I was growing up who played basketball, as we considered it to be a girl's game (still is). One of my childhood pals used to be on the receiving end of that periodically; he went on to be a pretty good D1 collegiate player and played in the NBA as well. However, given the fact he was a basketball player, we all considered him to be a fairy.

My wife played basketball in highschool and college, but she is a girl, so it was okay.
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Like a wrestler from Iowa!
 
hawkeye2009 said:
We used to beat up kids when I was growing up who played basketball, as we considered it to be a girl's game (still is). One of my childhood pals used to be on the receiving end of that periodically; he went on to be a pretty good D1 collegiate player and played in the NBA as well. However, given the fact he was a basketball player, we all considered him to be a fairy.

My wife played basketball in highschool and college, but she is a girl, so it was okay.
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OK........
 
I sit for my fluoro cases. OR chair on wheels. Helps my back/body quite a bit.
 
I'm of the opinion sitting with lead on is a bad idea for the disk.
 
Stand up straight and raise the table really high. Sitting with lead increases the pressure within the disks, whereas standing distributes weight across the pelvis. Humans weren't made to sit; we were made to run and move and hunt and travel.
 
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