Scholl vs CPSM

[akumar2013]

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Hey guys,

I recently got accepted to Scholl and CSPM. I got the Dean's Scholarship at CSPM (10k a year) and I did not receive any scholarship from Scholl. Cost of living is one thing that is a downside to attending CSPM (no on-campus housing) and is much more expensive than Scholl. However, I've heard Scholl's clinics can be dead sometimes and the whole interprofessional relationship with MD's, pharm, etc is something I'm iffy about. So my question is which school is better? I understand I can't go wrong with any of these choices, but there are several pro's and con's with each school and I want to make a decision where I will benefit long term with my education.

 

[SLCpod]

CSPM!!!

I am totally BIAS as I will be attending CSPM in the fall.

What are more of your pros and cons and maybe we (CSPM and Scholl students) can give you some additional input. I know you listed a few but there have to be more than 3 things that have you in this pickle of a situation.

 

[itsallgood19]

you mind providing your stats that awarded you that awesome scholarship money? Congrats on that!! I vote CSPM!

 

[akumar2013]

CSPM!!!

I am totally BIAS as I will be attending CSPM in the fall.

What are more of your pros and cons and maybe we (CSPM and Scholl students) can give you some additional input. I know you listed a few but there have to be more than 3 things that have you in this pickle of a situation.

CSPM:

PROS:
Early clinical exposure (I love how the clinics are very busy)
Small class size
Good program for Sports Medicine
High pass rate for boards (although this really depends on the individual, not the school)
Weather lol

CONS:
Cost of living (like I said)
Commute



Scholl

PROS:
Good research institute
More resources available to students since it is affiliated with a medical school
Good reputation
Master's programs available


CONS:
Not a lot of people matched
Taking classes with MDs
Clinics kind of dead





I also calculated how much it would cost after 4 years (including room, food, personal expenses, etc)

CSPM: $200,000 (+/- $5000); this includes my scholarship
Scholl: $208,000 (+/- $5000)

 

[akumar2013]

you mind providing your stats that awarded you that awesome scholarship money? Congrats on that!! I vote CSPM!

MCAT: 20
PS: 7
VR: 4
BS: 9

GPA:
overall: 3.5
science: 3.3


Thanks!!

 

[akumar2013]

Taking classes with medical students should never be a con.

I understand where you are coming from and it is misleading how I wrote it. I just like the idea of a DPM teaching a class and giving insight through a podiatrist POV than an MD. I know Scholl offers this, but if you could explain why you feel it should never be a con, I would love to hear it and your opinion could help me with my decision.

Thanks!

 

[akumar2013]

Because the courses that we take with the medical students are organized, taught better, and the exams are fair and well written in comparison to some of the courses that are taught by some of the DPMs. Some pod only courses are taught well but others...not so much.

Are you guys graded on the same scale as MD students or do DPM students have their own separate grading scale?

 

[PatchAdamsFan]

Because the courses that we take with the medical students are organized, taught better, and the exams are fair and well written in comparison to some of the courses that are taught by some of the DPMs. Some pod only courses are taught well but others...not so much.

I'm not a student yet, but that is pretty subjective, no? There are a plethora of threads on the med school forum that discuss the horrid MD lecturers, with an occasional gem here or there.

On a different note, I don't know the total number of students in each lecture at Scholl (pod + MD), but it can certainly be a con. From what I understand from DMU students (not signaling that school out, just a place I interviewed at earlier), there are over 150, 200, 300+ students in lecture, with a small minority being podiatry students. Some felt as if lecturers don't acknowledge their presence, and office hours are near impossible to attend given the class sizes. If that is of no concern to a student, then by no means is that a con.

 

[HokiePod]

For me If I were in your shoes it will be any easy choice..CSPM. Not only because they gave you scholarship but also I heard that majority of the people from Scholl did not got matched this year. Secondly, I also heard as you mentioned that their clinics are really dead which can hamper your clinic exposure.

 

[AMDG83]

Because the courses that we take with the medical students are organized, taught better, and the exams are fair and well written in comparison to some of the courses that are taught by some of the DPMs. Some pod only courses are taught well but others...not so much.

I'm from different school than Ankle Breaker, but his comment is exactly true. The integrated classes are taught WAY better.

 

[SLCpod]

I'm from different school than Ankle Breaker, but his comment is exactly true. The integrated classes are taught WAY better.

I don't know if this is a good thing. From what I understand they two of you are saying is that the institutions aren't concerned with the DPM focused classes being organized and well taught.

OP: I am glad you have more information to help you with your decision. I was also accepted to a school that integrates classes with other pre-professionals. During my campus visit I walked into the lecture hall that seats 300 students and it brought back memories of undergrad classes with 600 students. At CSPM you aren't going to have large class sizes.

With the construction of the new mechanics lab you will have plenty of research to do.

The main reason I chose CSPM was because the clinic was very busy and I felt I would be able to have more clinical exposure during my 4 years. "Knowledge without labor is profitless. Knowledge with labor is genius."

Good luck with your decision.