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Hey everyone! First, I want to congratulate everyone who reached or exceeded their goal on the April MCAT. Second, I need some opinions on which schools to apply to. I first took the MCAT in August and scored a 27R, I retook in April scoring a 34O. I would really appreciate if you guys would look at my MDapplicants profile and let me know what you think about my school selections: should I take some off or add some on? I know some are long shots, but I guess you never know, right? Also, if anyone wants to look over my whole application:pS, descriptions of activities, etc I would really appreciate it, but if not I understand. Good luck to everyone!!!

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Honestly man, you probably don't need to apply to so many schools. If there are a couple on your list that you're not too enthusiastic about you could probably drop them. Your app is really solid, I'd be quite surprised if you don't get into Iowa. A 34 MCAT is extraodinary- don't let the SDN superstars make you doubt your chances.

Edit: Of course, I understand that going throught this admissions process once sucks enough and nobody wants to go through it twice. So if you have the $ and you want peace of mind, go ahead and apply to all those places.
 
I would take off these schools:

Northwestern University
Ohio State University
Pennsylvania State University
University of Chicago
University of Colorado
University of Illinois
University of Iowa
Touro University - Henderson
University of Kansas

I think that applying to in state schools as an out of state person is too much of a long shot. I know a couple of those that I took off aren't state schools, but I don't think you need them. I think the rest of the list looks good. I think a good question to ask yourself is 'if this was the only school I got into would I still go there?'.
Thats my 2 cents
 
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popbirch said:
I would take off these schools:

Northwestern University
Ohio State University
Pennsylvania State University
University of Chicago
University of Colorado
University of Illinois
University of Iowa
Touro University - Henderson
University of Kansas

I think that applying to in state schools as an out of state person is too much of a long shot. I know a couple of those that I took off aren't state schools, but I don't think you need them. I think the rest of the list looks good. I think a good question to ask yourself is 'if this was the only school I got into would I still go there?'.
Thats my 2 cents

Dude, he's FROM Iowa-- UIowa is a highly respected school, and you can't beat instate tuition.

To the OP: if you get into Iowa, I would go there. Drop some of the other out of state schools (like University of Illinois-- have you seen their out of state tuition? Insane) and maybe BU. They get tons of applicants and I hear their students are miserable. But that's just rumor.
 
I sincerely appreciate the responses! Thanks. Anyone else have any comments? Am I just wasting money on schools like John Hopkins, Mayo ???
 
I would suggest taking Rush off; you won't get much love from them as on OOS applicant according to the numbers in the MSAR
 
Fellow Iowan...here is my advice...ditch Ohio State and Penn State, the likelihood of you getting in there and not getting into Iowa is slim...as back-ups add the University of Missouri and University of Nebraska Medical Center (keep KU unlike the previous poster). These three schools try VERY VERY hard to take their OOS students from contigous states...in other words they want to educate midwest natives, who will stay in the midwest instead of training kids from the coast who absolutely won't stay in the region. I was accepted to all three last cycle as an OOS last year and my stats are similar to yours. Just so you know Iowa is heavily numbers based (the 25 minute interview is worthless) you shouldn't have a problem unless they stick you on the community college thing...which they could if you don't explain it well so have some back-ups ready. Lastly, keep some reach schools on there, us Iowans are lucky in that there aren't many of us applying to medical school each year (300 or so) and a bulk will obviously stay at Iowa (~100), diversity comes in many forms and some of the big names like having people from all over the country so keep some of the big name reach schools on your list...you never know. As for Mayo, its worth $30 bucks to try, they reject the bulk of people pre-phone interview (their form of a secondary) and interview a decent number of those who recieve a phone interview so given the excellent financial aid and the fact Mayo is has a large midwest contigent you would be well advised to leave it on.
 
Thank you! Mayo is actually my dream school so feel free to pull some strings ! :)
 
I was wondering if someone could look over my activity descriptions? Do I need to explain more or anything? Give motivation for doing these things? etc I would really really appreciate it? Also would anyone mind reading my PS? I just want to get everything right this time!!!!!! :oops:

Parks and Recreation Employee

As an employee of the City of Humboldt Parks and Recreation Department I primarily dealt with the upkeep and development of the city parks. Duties of this job included: park landscapping, mowing the parks, and preparing the city baseball and softball diamonds for play among many other miscellaneous tasks. In addition, I was in charge of holding and running a three day baseball camp twice a year for elementary children in which I taught the fundamentals of baseball.

Rivers Program Mentor

The Rivers Program was instituted at Phillip's Middle School in an attempt to supply positive role models to elementary age children who were struggling academically and/or behaviorally. The idea behind the Rivers Program was that interaction with an older role model would positively influence the child altering their academic and/or behavioral habits. During my involvement with the River's Program, which lasted one full school year, I met with a 6th grade child once a week for approximately two hours. My first priority when meeting with the child was to aid him in his studies and homework. We would complete his unfinished school assignments, study for upcoming exams, and read together. If time was permitting we would also engage in recreational activities such as basketball, board games, and playing cards.

Phi Theta Kappa Honor Fraternity

After graduating from Iowa Central Community College with an Associate Degree, I was inducted into the Phi Theta Kappa Honor Society. Phi Theta Kappa is the largest honor society in American higher education with more than 1.5 million members and 1,200 chapters located in all 50 of the United States. Induction into Phi Theta Kappa is limited to students of two year colleges who complete a minimum of twelve hours of Associate Degree course work and earn a grade point average of 3.5 or higher.

Volunteer in Burn Treatment Center

I dedicated three hours per week for six months volunteering at the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics Burn Treatment Center. This volunteering was done not only to be exposed to and gain a better understanding of the medical field, but also to improve the unfortunate experience of those patients who found themselves in the Burn Treatment Center. While volunteering in the Burn Treatment Center my duties included: aiding with bed baths, tub baths, and resoaking procedures; restocking blankets, sponges, gloves, and gowns; delivering newspapers, filing paperwork, talking with patients, making beds, and aiding in the transport of patients and belongings. Occassionally, there were opportunities to observe minor medical procedures.

Intramural Chair

As Intramural Chair of Delta Upsilon Fraternity I was responsible for finding dates of intramural athletic events, relaying the dates to the members of the fraternity, posting sign up sheets, relaying the sign up sheets to Recreational Services, paying the required dues, and informing the participating members of the actual event dates and times.

Assistant Little League Coach

I served as an assistant little league baseball coach to a 3rd and 4th grade baseball team. During the practices, which were held once a week, I taught the participants the fundamentals of baseball including hitting, fielding, base running, catching, and pitching. In addition, the Head Coach and I worked in concert to construct game rosters and ensure equal playing time for all players.

Assistant New Member Educator

As assistant new member educator of Delta Upsilon Fraternity I assisted the head new member educator in teaching the new members the history, traditions, rules, and expected conduct of the fraternity. I also aided in establishing and enforcing study hours for the new members as mandated by the head new member educator.

Head New Member Educator

As the head new member educator of Delta Upsilon Fraternity I was responsibile for educating the new members of the fraternity on the history, tradition, rules, and expected conduct. In addition, I was also responsible for monitoring the grades of the new members, establishing study hours, and planning and carrying out the rites of initiation.

Patient Account Representative

As a patient account representative in the emergency room of the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics I interracted directly with patients in order to register them for emergency care. In addition, I updated and edited patient medical records, worked closely with emergency room staff relaying patient descriptions of illness, contacted specific hospital departments for the emergency room staff upon request, and escorted family and friends of patients to specific hospital clinics.

Honors Research

In order to graduate with honors in biology at the University of Iowa it is required to have a G.P.A. of 3.3 or higher in all course work, commit one's self to a minimum of two semesters of research, complete an honors seminar, write a thesis, and give a presentation detailing your research. I completed all of these requirments to graduate with honors, however, I performed three semesters of research in the lab of Dr. #$#$#. I showed through my research that Calcium/calmodulin-dependent protein kinase IV impacts early vertebrate patterning. I elucidated this protein's role in developmental patterning by overexpressing the normal protein and introducing a dominant-negative protein into zebrafish embryos. Methods I used included: restriction endonuclease reactions, production of synthetic RNA, and microinjection of the RNA into the zebrafish embryos among many others.

Research Assistant

I am serving as a research assistant at the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics for a study examining and evaluating the different methods of clinical teaching. The main objective of the study is to evaluate which method of clinical teaching is more effective and preferred by faculty and patients: staffing in the presence of the patient or staffing in a conference room outside of the patient's presence. Duties include: informing patients of the study and securing consent to complete post-appointment survey, tracking and enforcing randomination of staffing location, recording the total time that the trainee spends with the patient and in staffing, distributing and collecting surveys at end of appointments and monthly rotations, and managing data.

Free Medical Clinic Patient Guide

As a patient guide at the Iowa City Free Medical Clinic, I initially escort the patients to an open examing room. In the room I visit briefly with the patient and elucidate why they are at the clinic. I then obtain a brief medical, family, and medication history. Lastly, I obtain vital signs including blood pressure, pulse, and temperature. I document all of this in the patient's chart before passing it on to the physician.

Physician Shadowing

I have had the opportunity to shadow a physician in the General Internal Medicine Clinic at the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics. Dr. #$#$ allows me to observe him and the patients as he makes his rounds to see his patients. Dr. Wilson answers any of the brief questions I have as we make the rounds. In addition. following each of the shadowing sessions he answers my more in depth questions explaining each patient case further if need be.

Dean's List

I was awarded to the Dean's List the last three semesters of my undergraduate work: May 2005, December 2006, and May 2006. This honor is awarded to those students who ear a grade point average above 3.5.

Research Assistant

Throughout my last three semesters of undergraduate work I performed honors research in the lab of Dr. $#$#. Following my graduation, Dr. #$#$ requested that I join her lab for the summer as a research assistant. The lab of Dr. #$#$#$ primarily focuses on the effect of calcium and its regulatory targets in early vertebrate patterning utilizing zebrafish as a model organism. My research for Dr. #$#$# focuses on a gene known as F04 suspected of playing a role in retinitis pigmentosa when mutant. By elucidating the role, mechanism, and pathology of this gene and its protein in early vertebrate development it may be possible to develop better prevention and treatment options in humans. Methods that I am utilizing for this research include: gene knockouts via morpholino microinjections, gene cloning and subcloning, and dissection of zebrafish eyes among many other procedures. In addition, I am responsible for supervising, aiding, and troublshooting for an honors student within the lab.
 
It looks like your ECs are pretty diverse and thats great. The only thing I would suggest is that you make each activity more personal. What did the activity mean to you? Have any of them shaped your desire to become a doctor? As it is, I can't tell which activity you devoted the most time to and which was the most important. I think this would be a plus to do because advisors search for quality and not quantity.
 
I think they look good. I'm not sure that I would put the new member educator on the list, or combine the assistant and head new member to one item. It doesn't sound like an extensive activity, or maybe add how much time you devoted to that activity in the description. It just sounds a little superficial compared to the other activities, maybe I am just misunderstanding it. The academic stuff looks good to me. I think, if you do drop one of them, that a more of a hobby type thing would look good. Like a musical instrument(if you play one), or a baseball league you are a part of rather than instructing or organizing. I think it looks good to have something that wasn't really an activity that was designed to look good on an application but that shows a little about what you like, that sort of thing. But, those are just little things, I think overall it looks really good.
 
iowa hawk.
We have remarkably similiar apps. 34Q with about a 3.7 (just under.)

You have so much extracirricular it makes my head spin. However mine might equate to yrs jsut because the few that I listed were significant activities- I listed maybe 6 or 8 things cant rmemeber

Lab research of my own
EMT intermediate-2-3 yrs
Study abroad and added Spanish major to relate to Latinos
Working with the poor at a clinic I worked at.
humm some other stuff

Anyways as far as I can tell we're in the same boat!
 
I just read caramel's post and I thought I would disagree. I think the best way to write the experiences is straight to the point, no emotions or meaning. Just what you did, how you did it, requirements, etc. . . I think the place for emotion and meaning is in the personal statement. All of my experiences were staight to the point, and the ones that did have meaning to me I tried to include in the PS. The experiences give interviewers some stuff to talk about and they show that you've fulfilled those requirements. That was my interpretation of how to write the experience section. I'm not an expert on admissions or anything but I was did ok in '06 cycle, so feel free to disregard anything I say.
 
:love: I really appreciate everyone's input!
 
Alright...first on the EC descriptions I completely agree with popbirch...no emotion or why the experience will make you a good doc, just describe it and put a positive spin on it. When you are putting together remember that people are looking for certain things, clinical, research, leadership, interpersonal skills etc. Here is an example of what I did for my fraternity...

a. Since the winter of 2002 I have been a member of the Pi Theta Beta national fraternity. Despite the negative stigma often associated with such organizations I found my experience in Pi to be a very challenging and rewarding experience. As a two-year member of the fraternity’s executive board, holding the titles of general secretary and vice president, I was responsible for many of the day-to-day operations of the chapter. This included setting and maintaining a budget, planning social and philanthropic activities, organizing a charity auction that raised close to $5000 dollars for a select non-profit each year and communicating with university officials, national fraternity officials and alumni on a variety of matters on behalf of the chapter. Being in a leadership position for two years I gained a lot of communication and conflict resolution skills that I believe will serve me for the rest of my life. Aside from providing me with great leadership opportunities being involved in a fraternity provided a much-needed social outlet throughout my college career. Without the friends in my house and the great times there I don’t think I would have enjoyed college as much as I did.

The format is such, state what you did, how long you did it, some details about stuff that aims to convey one of the qualities (leadership, personal skills, clinical exposure, research) you want and then what you took from the experience. DON'T use this space to tell people why this experience will make you a good doctor, it detracts from the description and lends to the perception you did everything you did in college to get into medical school, which I certainly hope no one has...that would be pretty lame. Hope that helps.
 
Sorry I think I should clarify, I didnt mean that you should find a reason to be a doctor in everything you did but if you did volunteer work I think you could say more than 'there were opportunities to see medical procedures' I think you could go deeper and say what you learned in this opportunity and if that affected your decision to be a doctor. As one friend told me after reading my list, you dont want to make it look as if you are just going through the motions. As far as the other activities of course park activities and phi theta kappa didnt influence your decision to go to medical school but if possible you could expand on your basic duties and tell some background information i.e. look at the post above. He disareed with me but the content of his EC seems less generic. Hope this is clearer :)
 
Thanks everyone. I do need to clarify what the experience meant to me, and will get that done today! Thanks again.
 
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