School Orders

[QM1]

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Hey everyone,

I'll be starting dental school this fall and still have some unanswered questions regarding the AT orders between school years.
1) Since I will only have 2-3 weeks between 1st and 2nd year, and between 2nd and 3rd year, I will need 'school orders'. Do any of you have experience with this?
2) Since the stipend is paid for 10.5 months and actual class will be for 11 or 11.5, are the orders cut for the missing stipend time frame dates, or can dates overlap leading to forfeiture of one type of pay for the other?
3) Any problems with delaying OIS (Navy) 'til completion of third year? In paticular, date of rank.
4) Is it possible they could order OIS this summer (would not be welcome news)?

Any feedback from Army or Air Force folks is certainly welcome, too.

Thanks

 

[aatrek]

if your looking for AF or army info.. I am not your man.. cause I know nothing about them.
However, with regards to the Navy.. AT was a joke..
All I did is fax in my paperwork to the nearest command at the begining of my AT and they signed it and mailed it back to me and I would continue on with my schooling and then at the end of the AT period I would send it to them again and they sign me out.. and I get paid.. and never took a vacation and never gone to the base and thats that..

I did that for five years.. no problem.. only catch here is that I was part of the FAP program.. does that make a difference? I am not sure.. but I would try if i was you..

 

[QM1]

if your looking for AF or army info.. I am not your man.. cause I know nothing about them.
However, with regards to the Navy.. AT was a joke..
All I did is fax in my paperwork to the nearest command at the begining of my AT and they signed it and mailed it back to me and I would continue on with my schooling and then at the end of the AT period I would send it to them again and they sign me out.. and I get paid.. and never took a vacation and never gone to the base and thats that..

I did that for five years.. no problem.. only catch here is that I was part of the FAP program.. does that make a difference? I am not sure.. but I would try if i was you..

Actually I preferred replies from Squids since I'm going Navy, but just to clarify: Were you able to start and end order dates so that there
remained continuity of pay between stipend payments and active duty pay and allowances? Also, if there were a couple weeks gap where there were no class/clinic for you to attend, did you get paid for staying home?

 

[DocMustang]

You are required to complete 4 AT periods while in the HPSP. Each AT period is 45 days long (1.5 months). While at AT you will be paid as an ENS (O-1). At all other times during the program you will be given the Congressionally approved HPSP stipend. (12-1.5=10.5) You will receive either the stipend or active duty pay never both. This also means you will always get paid something.

While 4 active duty periods are required, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that you request and complete them. If you do not request orders you will not receive them. If you do not receive orders you will not be paid active duty pay.

Due to certain restrictions involving medical and dental education it is quite possible that you will not have time to do an active duty clerkship. This is what School Orders are for. Ordinarily you are allowed 1 set of school orders while in the program. This can be changed with appropriate requests and letters from the dean. School Orders consist of you contacting your local Navy reserve Center and checking in then returning to school. Live your life normally without travelling beyond a reasonable distance from your school. Check out with your local reserve center 45 days later and you are done.

The only restrictions are that you must complete OIS prior to any clerkships at a navy site where you wear a uniform. (anything except school orders) Since your school seems like it will keep you busy you will most likely do school orders for each of your AT periods. OIS will be completed prior to your first Active Duty assignment.

DocMustang

 

[QM1]

You are required to complete 4 AT periods while in the HPSP. Each AT period is 45 days long (1.5 months). While at AT you will be paid as an ENS (O-1). At all other times during the program you will be given the Congressionally approved HPSP stipend. (12-1.5=10.5) You will receive either the stipend or active duty pay never both. This also means you will always get paid something.

While 4 active duty periods are required, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that you request and complete them. If you do not request orders you will not receive them. If you do not receive orders you will not be paid active duty pay.

Due to certain restrictions involving medical and dental education it is quite possible that you will not have time to do an active duty clerkship. This is what School Orders are for. Ordinarily you are allowed 1 set of school orders while in the program. This can be changed with appropriate requests and letters from the dean. School Orders consist of you contacting your local Navy reserve Center and checking in then returning to school. Live your life normally without travelling beyond a reasonable distance from your school. Check out with your local reserve center 45 days later and you are done.

The only restrictions are that you must complete OIS prior to any clerkships at a navy site where you wear a uniform. (anything except school orders) Since your school seems like it will keep you busy you will most likely do school orders for each of your AT periods. OIS will be completed prior to your first Active Duty assignment.

DocMustang

Thanks, Doc 👍