Schools for the poor having weak interview skill ?

[yasikori]

I know this may be silly questoin, but it is EXTREMELY important for me.

As a foreign student, it's been 2 yrs since I came to the states.

My gpa is so far 3.94 (44 prepharm credits) with more than 100 hours of volunteer in pharmacy dept in a local Hospital.

I think my academic + extracuricular is not so bad.

But, whenever I encounter 'official' person-to-person contact, I feel like strained and embarrassed because I m still not famiailar with "official" spoken english.

I mean, my interview skill is terrible and very poor although I have lots of friends in the informal situation.

I know most of pharmacy shools consider interview score seriously.

Nevertheless, please let me know if there are some schools which do NOT consider interview skills MUCH.

Thank you guyz.

 

[ageldred]

I think speaking well is a valuable skill that will do you well in the field of pharmacy. Most programs require a public speaking class and I think that would be beneficial to you. You would probably learn a lot in that class. Sign up at your school career center for a mock interview they may be able to tape you also so you can see what you need to work on.

I think your post is pretty well written, not perfect, but very decent for you only being in the states for 2 years! There are some schools that don't require interviews at all, however I think the best bet is for you to work on your speaking skills because it will only help you out in your career. Best of luck to you 🙂

I know this may be silly questoin, but it is EXTREMELY important for me.

As a foreign student, it's been 2 yrs since I came to the states.

My gpa is so far 3.94 (44 prepharm credits) with more than 100 hours of volunteer in pharmacy dept in a local Hospital.

I think my academic + extracuricular is not so bad.

But, whenever I encounter 'official' person-to-person contact, I feel like strained and embarrassed because I m still not famiailar with "official" spoken english.

I mean, my interview skill is terrible and very poor although I have lots of friends in the informal situation.

I know most of pharmacy shools consider interview score seriously.

Nevertheless, please let me know if there are some schools which do NOT consider interview skills MUCH.

Thank you guyz.

 

[aboveliquidice]

There has been a significant movement in pharmacy school admissions for a formal interview and impromptu writing sample. The goal is to ensure that professionals in the field of pharmacy can communicate both effectively and effortlessly.

I am impressed with your use of written english - continue to develop that along with your oral schools (either through a class or on your own).

To answer your question - Albany COP does not require an interview. LECOM only requires a phone interview (which may or may not be better for you). Those are the only ones I know off the top of my head - I am sure there are others though.

Keep posting - and let us know how you are progressing

~above~

 

[yasikori]

Thanx guyz for the reply.

I already applied Albany College, but LECOM require Green Card which I do not have !

Any other schools ?

 

[PharmDream]

I think there is a school in Michigan that does not require an interview

 

[binghamkid]

There is no need for you to be worried about whether an institution will judge your interview skills. What matters in the interview is what you have to say. They will understand if you have difficulty saying it (to a reasonable degree). If they're staring at you trying to understand what you are saying, then it'll be problematic. However, they are adcom members who have worked with individuals professionally with varying capacities for English conversation.

As for feeling strained and embarrassed, i think everyone walks into an interview feeling nervous and scared (unless of course they're a natural). You have your academics and extracurriculars down pat; as long as you have valid reasons for becoming a pharmacist and can convey that, you have plenty of ammunition for making it through the interview.

 

[sleazye]

I think there is a school in Michigan that does not require an interview

Ferris State does not require an interview and I didn't have to do an interview for Univ of Mich either. U of M likes diversity too, so being foreign you may have a good shot there.

 

[asian pharm]

I know this may be silly questoin, but it is EXTREMELY important for me.

As a foreign student, it's been 2 yrs since I came to the states.

My gpa is so far 3.94 (44 prepharm credits) with more than 100 hours of volunteer in pharmacy dept in a local Hospital.

I think my academic + extracuricular is not so bad.

But, whenever I encounter 'official' person-to-person contact, I feel like strained and embarrassed because I m still not famiailar with "official" spoken english.

I mean, my interview skill is terrible and very poor although I have lots of friends in the informal situation.

I know most of pharmacy shools consider interview score seriously.

Nevertheless, please let me know if there are some schools which do NOT consider interview skills MUCH.

Thank you guyz.

I can very well understand your problem, i am in the same situation.
2 years since i moved to US
3.89 gpa,
work experience in walgreens since a year as a technician
but........... got wailtlisted or rejected everywhere after interview.
maybe they did not like my way of speaking, my opinions, my questions at the end of the interview!!😕
i can exactly experience what you feel right now.
i feel so depressed, and sometimes even mad at myself thinking "how uncleaver am I; I can't even pass an interview"
All I can say is good luck to you.

 

[sdn1977]

I disagree with those who say your verbal English skills are not important. In CA, you can't get out of pharmacy school without passing an oral exam. They use pharmaceutical cases, but they are also testing you on communication skills.

The trend nationwide in the profession is to go the same way. The reason is our job is so very, very dependent on our ability to communicate in English. We must be able to speak & make ourselves understood by patients, prescribers, the general public & other pharmacists. This has been a major complaint of prescribers in the past decade which has precipitated these changes.

Now...what can you do about it? Take an ESL class in your adult community college. Also, immerse yourself in English - use it always - at home, with your friends & family, where you are volunteering. Get a buddy to give "talks" to. Start with reading the newspaper aloud to each other. Then, have a conversation about the article you've read - in ENGLISH.

Its all in getting comfortable with the spoken word. I think you also need to get busy on the green card issue. That will get you hung up in some schools.

Good luck!

 

[bananaface]

Doesn't Ferris State admit mostly in-state people?

Good communication is necessary in pharmacy. If your communication is so poor that you have difficulty participating in conversation, you should work on it before applying. If you do not get this skill down before starting school, you will not get everything you need from your coursework and training.

You still have a year's worth of classes left before completing your prerequisites. Why not use that year to work on improving your communication skills so that you have a better shot the next time around, and a better experience in school?

 

[eelo]

I know this may be silly questoin, but it is EXTREMELY important for me.

Nevertheless, please let me know if there are some schools which do NOT consider interview skills MUCH.

Thank you guyz.

Hmmmmm. Somehow, I think your communication skills are much better than you're giving yourself credit for. You seem to have little problem with the written language; your written English as at least as good as an average native speaker, probably better than most.

Still- I think it's a good idea to enroll in an ESL class, if for no better reason than to raise your own confidence level. In my community, ESL classes are offered both through the school district and the Parks & Recreation department. Some of the best ESL classes are the ones that are taught as something other than ESL; by that, I mean something like a cooking class, or a gardening class, or something else that interests the prospective students and offers a little more opportunity for real conversation, as opposed to rote memorization of dialog.

In addition to the immersion suggested, try to use correct English as often as possible in everything you do, including chatrooms such as this. I find it extremely frustrating to read text-speak on message boards and chatboards, when the writer is complaining about how their poor English is hurting them, but they're writing things like 'cuz' instead of 'because,' 'guyz' instead of 'guys,' and 'ur' instead of 'your' or 'you're.' For the record, many native speakers have difficulty using your/you're correctly (also their, there, they're), so using 'ur' certainly isn't going to help.

Once again- I think you might be selling yourself short- I suspect you're better in English than you think you are. But there's always room for improvement, and you've made a good start here and gotten some great advice.

Best of luck to you!!!

 

[julierx]

I know this may be silly questoin, but it is EXTREMELY important for me.

As a foreign student, it's been 2 yrs since I came to the states.

My gpa is so far 3.94 (44 prepharm credits) with more than 100 hours of volunteer in pharmacy dept in a local Hospital.

I think my academic + extracuricular is not so bad.

But, whenever I encounter 'official' person-to-person contact, I feel like strained and embarrassed because I m still not famiailar with "official" spoken english.

I mean, my interview skill is terrible and very poor although I have lots of friends in the informal situation.

I know most of pharmacy shools consider interview score seriously.

Nevertheless, please let me know if there are some schools which do NOT consider interview skills MUCH.

Thank you guyz.

Midwestern CCP doesn't have a one on one interview. They have a campus visit, and that's about it.

 

[julierx]

One thing though, MWU-CCP does have an on-site essay.

 

[No1 Pusher]

I myself speak 3 languages, English being the last I learned. It is relatively easy to adopt the english language although the rules of grammar are somewhat complicated.

When it comes to speaking "formal" english in person, I feel the same...

Maybe when it comes to writing, you have more time to think of words to use and in person you have to speak immedietly when addressing a question or else you will look silly thinking for a minute how to say whatever you want to say.

What I try to do is hit dictionary.com whenever I see new words especially when I read posts here on SDN.net. (alot of the users here use words I've never heard before) I try to remember them but somehow I will eventually forget. It is hard to permanently implant a new/rarely used words to my brain because I speak non english language at home 24/7. And when I do speak english around my friends it is usually a "street talk" type.

In my opinion, I think the admissions should give a break to those people like myself who weren't born here in the states and learned the language just recently. As long as you can address the questions right or sound logical enough without being 80-100% grammatically correct? Just use this post as an example, Im sure the majority understand what Im trying to say. However, If you read it carefully, Im sure you will see a couple of "word grammar" errors.

What do you guys think?

 

[omnione]

If you do have to go through an interview, you can hone your skills if your current school has a career services center that offers mock interviews. Sometimes, the pressure of being evaluated contributes to slurred and stumbling speech.

 

[eelo]

In my opinion, I think the admissions should give a break to those people like myself who weren't born here in the states and learned the language just recently. As long as you can address the questions right or sound logical enough without being 80-100% grammatically correct? Just use this post as an example, Im sure the majority understand what Im trying to say. However, If you read it carefully, Im sure you will see a couple of "word grammar" errors.

What do you guys think?

I absolutely disagree that adcoms should "...give a break to those.... who weren't born here....." There are a lot of people who WERE born here who have had to overcome some pretty tough obstacles to get to where they are now. Adcoms aren't giving them any breaks, why should they give you one? This is graduate/professional school, not third grade. You get in on your own merits, based on how well you can compete with every other applicant.

It's incumbent upon YOU to make yourself competitive in school, and that includes a mastery of the language. You've already shown academic prowess in other subjects. If you want to go to graduate/professional school here in the US, you need to be able to communicate with your professors, your peers, and the general populace.

If you think you need, or are entitled to, a special advantage, I think you're wrong. Just go out and make yourself as competitive a you can, and play to your strengths.

 

[CaliRx]

I feel that regardless of what your native language is, everyone has trouble speaking correctly when they are under some sort of stress. It takes time and practice to perfect interview skills and communication skills. I wasn't born here in the US but I came here when I was in elementary school. I've kept my native language as well and try to speak it as much as I can at home. I feel that my communication skills are pretty good, even better then my written skills. Point being, it didn't happen over night. It did take some time but eventually I had it down and today I speak English without the "foreign" accent. However, I still feel nervous when I step into an interview-like environment and that is when I start speaking either too fast or I cut off my sentences, etc. So being under that type of stress, many of us don't speak "perfect" English. Many times, the adcom would ignore it or it is not even noticeable as long as you get the point across.

 

[CaliRx]

In my opinion, I think the admissions should give a break to those people like myself who weren't born here in the states and learned the language just recently. As long as you can address the questions right or sound logical enough without being 80-100% grammatically correct? Just use this post as an example, Im sure the majority understand what Im trying to say. However, If you read it carefully, Im sure you will see a couple of "word grammar" errors.

What do you guys think?

I absolutely disagree that adcoms should "...give a break to those.... who weren't born here....." There are a lot of people who WERE born here who have had to overcome some pretty tough obstacles to get to where they are now. Adcoms aren't giving them any breaks, why should they give you one? This is graduate/professional school, not third grade. You get in on your own merits, based on how well you can compete with every other applicant.

It's incumbent upon YOU to make yourself competitive in school, and that includes a mastery of the language. You've already shown academic prowess in other subjects. If you want to go to graduate/professional school here in the US, you need to be able to communicate with your professors, your peers, and the general populace.

If you think you need, or are entitled to, a special advantage, I think you're wrong. Just go out and make yourself as competitive a you can, and play to your strengths.

I so agree with you eelo. I see so many non-native speakers complaining because they are at a "disadvantage." Go out there, work hard, and earn what you deserve!

 

[twester]

SDN1977 gives good adivce. Immersion is key to learning a foreign language. I know that from first hand experience (I'm American, but lived overseas for a while). I'd add one exercise. Try to "think" at all times in English. Don't ask yourself where your keys are in your native language. Ask yourself, instead, "Where are my keys?" Eventually, it'll just become second nature.

Two more things... I suspect your English may be better than you give yourself credit for, if your written English is any indication. So don't be too hard on yourself. You'll probably always speak English with an accent - so don't worry about that (if you are).

And if something sounds incorrect to you, it probably is. A good grammar reference and a list of English verb conjugations is something you should get out of a good ESL program.

Best of luck!

 

[No1 Pusher]

In my opinion, I think the admissions should give a break to those people like myself who weren't born here in the states and learned the language just recently. As long as you can address the questions right or sound logical enough without being 80-100% grammatically correct? Just use this post as an example, Im sure the majority understand what Im trying to say. However, If you read it carefully, Im sure you will see a couple of "word grammar" errors.

What do you guys think?

I absolutely disagree that adcoms should "...give a break to those.... who weren't born here....." There are a lot of people who WERE born here who have had to overcome some pretty tough obstacles to get to where they are now. Adcoms aren't giving them any breaks, why should they give you one? This is graduate/professional school, not third grade. You get in on your own merits, based on how well you can compete with every other applicant.

It's incumbent upon YOU to make yourself competitive in school, and that includes a mastery of the language. You've already shown academic prowess in other subjects. If you want to go to graduate/professional school here in the US, you need to be able to communicate with your professors, your peers, and the general populace.

If you think you need, or are entitled to, a special advantage, I think you're wrong. Just go out and make yourself as competitive a you can, and play to your strengths.

You might be right. But take a look at this...

The OP, based on her stats, is very competitive. I read her post and it seems she understand english and can speak decent english that you need as a pharmacist to communicate with an average patient. Does she really need to learn the word "cynosure" to impress (not that "cynosure" is very impressive but I know it is rarely used) the admissions to get accepted?

My mother is an RN who had a competitive GPA back then who can speak decent english but her "dictionary" skills are a little weaker than mine. She can communicate with her patients very well. She is the cautious type and she told me she has corrected many other RNs(who were born here with strong verbal) for wrong calculations & other wrong procedures. Her coworkers most of the time comes to her for solutions. You can say that she's a good RN even though her "dictionary" skills aren't that strong.. Does that make her a weak proffesional? So..if she was the student applying to pharmacy and she was to get interviewed, Im guessing she wouldve been rejected for having weak "english" and wouldve been delayed getting RN title. Yes RN is different than Pharm.D but both use patient/coworker communication.

For me, It took 3-5 years to learn the basic english language. It will take 4 years or more to master grammar and memorize 1000 new rarely used "big" words. When I saw the word cynosure, I had to look up the definition. Now since I don't know that word or most big words you can classify me as "incompetent in english"

........My science is very good, my math is very good, I passed English but I have trouble speaking formal english especially in interviews. Do I really have to go back to school for 4 years just to to master the english literature just to get accepted to become a good pharmacist??👎

You said the born citizens here are already having problems with the english language while theyve been here for 20yrs or more. Imagine how many years it will take the immigrants? So why not give them a break especially if their grades are competitive enough.👍

 

[eelo]

........My science is very good, my math is very good, I passed English but I have trouble speaking formal english especially in interviews. Do I really have to go back to school for 4 years just to to master the english literature just to get accepted to become a good pharmacist??👎

To become a good pharmacist? maybe not.

But to get accepted into a school where the primary language is English, the lessons will be taught in English, the discussion will be in English, and the practical application will be in English, yes.

I don't doubt that the OP, or you, or most of the others in this forum are extremely competitive academically. Just don't ask for special breaks to get into graduate/professional.

You might be better off using that time to look up "cynosure."

 

[binghamkid]

You said the born citizens here are already having problems with the english language while theyve been here for 20yrs or more. Imagine how many years it will take the immigrants? So why not give them a break especially if their grades are competitive enough.👍

Because there are some of us who are immigrants who have bothered to slave away for many years to learn the English language in order to speak it and write it as well as the next citizen over. Granted we've been here for a long time and that's a matter of circumstance, but we've chosen to immerse ourselves and make the effort to achieve the capacity for the English language. If you're intelligent and can't convey it because you don't know the language, then that doesn't do anyone any good at all.

Besides, if you decide you want to attend an institution in America, that's your perogative. It's also the institution's perogative then to require you to know English. You don't have to attend an American institution, but you want to. That's why we're all here. (Some of us even became citizens). When you're a guest in another country, you play by their rules, just like when Americans go to other countries.

 

[No1 Pusher]

........My science is very good, my math is very good, I passed English but I have trouble speaking formal english especially in interviews. Do I really have to go back to school for 4 years just to to master the english literature just to get accepted to become a good pharmacist??👎

To become a good pharmacist? maybe not.

But to get accepted into a school where the primary language is English, the lessons will be taught in English, the discussion will be in English, and the practical application will be in English, yes.

I don't doubt that the OP, or you, or most of the others in this forum are extremely competitive academically. Just don't ask for special breaks to get into graduate/professional.

You might be better off using that time to look up "cynosure."

Didn't the OP take her pre-pharm here in the U.S. where the primary language is English, the lessons taught in English, discussion, and practical application with a 3.94 gpa?

Btw, I'll take that advice on looking up words. 👍

 

[No1 Pusher]

If you're intelligent and can't convey it because you don't know the language, then that doesn't do anyone any good at all.

Hmmm.. not sure about that one...

Maybe If you don't know the language at all then it doesn't do anyone good.

Look at the OP with a 3.94 gpa who took the courses here in the U.S. If she didn't know the language at all she wouldve failed.

 

[omnione]

Hmmm.. not sure about that one...

Maybe If you don't know the language at all then it doesn't do anyone good.

Look at the OP with a 3.94 gpa who took the courses here in the U.S. If she didn't know the language at all she wouldve failed.

...to understand textbooks. However, even the retail pharmacist has to be understandable to the ordinary citizen who may be unforgiving about the lack of English skill. A pharmacist doesn't need to be an orator or even an average public speaker, but its a disservice to patients for them to have to decipher information on their own. I'm not saying that is a problem for the OP given I haven't heard a speech sample, but this is the United States so one should have competency in English outside of the classroom.

 

[eelo]

Hmmm.. not sure about that one...

Maybe If you don't know the language at all then it doesn't do anyone good.

Look at the OP with a 3.94 gpa who took the courses here in the U.S. If she didn't know the language at all she wouldve failed.

Yes, let's look at the OP, this is an excellent example. She's the one saying "I'm not so strong here, what can I do to improve my chances and get better at this," rather than whining "it's sooooo harrrrrdddddd, you should give me a breeeeeaaaakkkkkkk because I'm so speciallllll....."

Have you read the previous posts? Specifically, the ones where I and others have commented that her English seems to be better than she realizes, and the constructive advice she's been given? That's someone who's going to succeed, because she's looking within herself to find ways to make herself better..... a opposed to looking at others to make life easier for her and/or to do the work for her and remove the barriers. By the time someone gets to graduate or professonal school, they should be long past asking for special considerations.

Clearly, the OP has enough familiarity with the language that she's been able to get some fantastic grades in school. Her concern is the face-to-face interview, so she asked for help and got some great suggestions. I have all the confidence in the world in her.

I'm not on a pharmacy adcom, but I do sit on other professional adcoms and boards..... and I'll tell you this: at a graduate or professional level, anyone asking for special consideration because of an inability to function in the language ofthe discipline is immediately rejected. Even Stephen Hawking, probably the most brilliant mind of our lifetimes, has had to find a way to communicate effectively.

 

[No1 Pusher]

Yes, let's look at the OP, this is an excellent example. She's the one saying "I'm not so strong here, what can I do to improve my chances and get better at this," rather than whining "it's sooooo harrrrrdddddd, you should give me a breeeeeaaaakkkkkkk because I'm so speciallllll....."

Have you read the previous posts? Specifically, the ones where I and others have commented that her English seems to be better than she realizes, and the constructive advice she's been given? That's someone who's going to succeed, because she's looking within herself to find ways to make herself better..... a opposed to looking at others to make life easier for her and/or to do the work for her and remove the barriers. By the time someone gets to graduate or professonal school, they should be long past asking for special considerations.

Clearly, the OP has enough familiarity with the language that she's been able to get some fantastic grades in school. Her concern is the face-to-face interview, so she asked for help and got some great suggestions. I have all the confidence in the world in her.

I'm not on a pharmacy adcom, but I do sit on other professional adcoms and boards..... and I'll tell you this: at a graduate or professional level, anyone asking for special consideration because of an inability to function in the language ofthe discipline is immediately rejected. Even Stephen Hawking, probably the most brilliant mind of our lifetimes, has had to find a way to communicate effectively.

I understand you...

But....

I find it hard to believe that anyone with a high GPA, knows "good" english(good enough to counsel patients or communicate in english, not strong enough to impress the adcom), and whose only intent is to become a good pharmacist would get rejected because he/she had trouble expressing herself in an interview.

Eelo, suppose you were the adcom and you ask the 3.9 gpa w/experience student a complicated question; if he/she answers it on point with consistency but with slight broken english, would you reject this student?

Im guessing Yes you will reject the student.
(really? wow!! now she has to delay, go back to school for 3 years or more to become an english genius)

If you accepted her, it means you gave her a break.



*"good english" definition lol - good enough to counsel patients or communicate in english.


As you can see, Im not a strong english speaker and writings have some broken english, however you are able to understand me clearly for sure and I only used "good english."

Now If I had the 3.9 gpa and the adcom ask for my opinion and I used the same exact words on this post, I wouldve been rejected also huh? Even though my statements were clear and the most important in my opinion.

It's really ironic that you have to be an English genius to impress the adcoms when English itself is not even the current official language in America. Yes, I understand, No excuses!👍

Before anyone comes to a conlusion that I'm complaining, whining....NO!
Just my opinion, no hard arguements, no offense, no nothing lol, just a friendly forum conversation...😀

 

[RNtoPharmD]

I know this may be silly questoin, but it is EXTREMELY important for me.

As a foreign student, it's been 2 yrs since I came to the states.

My gpa is so far 3.94 (44 prepharm credits) with more than 100 hours of volunteer in pharmacy dept in a local Hospital.

I think my academic + extracuricular is not so bad.

But, whenever I encounter 'official' person-to-person contact, I feel like strained and embarrassed because I m still not famiailar with "official" spoken english.

I mean, my interview skill is terrible and very poor although I have lots of friends in the informal situation.

I know most of pharmacy shools consider interview score seriously.

Nevertheless, please let me know if there are some schools which do NOT consider interview skills MUCH.

Thank you guyz.

Butler University in Indiana.. No interview..NO LOR.. just PCAT and GPA...
They don't consider the writing part in PCAT either... They basically it is the number game .. I think. You have 3.9 GPA. you have chance to get into these school. I wish I have that high GPA like you so I don't have to worry about LORs and the importance of pharm experience..

I should have done better in school years ago.. I highly admired your GPA. When I just came here I had problem with English, causing my GPAs for the first few semester to be lower than expected even at CC.

Thanks.

I agree with some of the posts above .. You just need "good enough" English to work in healthcare. It is insane that more and more school are concentrating on these aspect of intelligence. like having on-site writing essay part etc. I am a foreign nurse in ICU. And I think I communicate effectively otherwise I would have been fired by now..

Language proficiency can be developed by familiarity in work environment and academic settings. 4 years of pharmacy school is more than enough to increase the commincation skills by the time you graduate.

 

[eelo]

Eelo, suppose you were the adcom and you ask the 3.9 gpa w/experience student a complicated question; if he/she answers it on point with consistency but with slight broken english, would you reject this student?

Im guessing Yes you will reject the student.
(really? wow!! now she has to delay, go back to school for 3 years or more to become an english genius)

If you accepted her, it means you gave her a break.

As a safety tip for your future as a student, you would be wise not to make unfounded assumptions and jump to conclusions based on what you want to read.

I said nothing about "broken English." My points have all been based on one's ability to communicate effectively in English (please go back and re-read, it might help your comprehension level). Speaking with an accent does not preclude effective communication in a language. Some of my most effective professors have been non-native speakers, and their accent was not an obstacle for them or for us as students. In many cases, the speaker of another language was able to find ways to help us understand why a specific word was appropriate, sometimes going into the Greek or Latin roots of the word, which was helpful to me.

When I have recommended such a student for acceptance, it doesn't mean I "gave her a break," it means the applicant was able to communicate effectively without expecting or asking for a "break."

Nobody is asking you or anyone to become an English genius. My point, which has been restated several times, is quite simple: By the time you reach professional or graduate school, you should be long past asking for "breaks" because your English isn't good.

Get off the Whiney Train and do what you have to do to improve your chances on your own.

 

[zn1988]

Thanx guyz for the reply.

I already applied Albany College, but LECOM require Green Card which I do not have !

Any other schools ?

Hello yasikori
Did you take the TOEFL (they require minimum 100 computer based ).