Sci. GPA

[Daydream46]

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what classes count towards your sci. GPA?

I have heard different things..

for example

I took some bull **** class called "bio social and bio medical issues" cause I needed some random credits... its is under the Bio dept. but is usually a class for non-bio majors... my Health Professions adviser said no, it doesnt count... but a friend of mine who already applied and was accepted to med school took the same class (plus a few other "baby bio" classes) and had it count towards his Sci. GPA

Also what about geology? I have taken several upper level Geology classes with Labs (don't ask) but would that count? again.. my HP advisor said no... because they aren't real labs but she couldn't really justify why.. Im guessing she is right on this one.. but I was just wondering

Also she said to include math, like Pre-Calc and Calc I and II.. did you all do the same?

 

[DentistsRSuper]

what classes count towards your sci. GPA?

I have heard different things..

for example

I took some bull **** class called "bio social and bio medical issues" cause I needed some random credits... its is under the Bio dept. but is usually a class for non-bio majors... my Health Professions adviser said no, it doesnt count... but a friend of mine who already applied and was accepted to med school took the same class (plus a few other "baby bio" classes) and had it count towards his Sci. GPA

Also what about geology? I have taken several upper level Geology classes with Labs (don't ask) but would that count? again.. my HP advisor said no... because they aren't real labs but she couldn't really justify why.. Im guessing she is right on this one.. but I was just wondering

Also she said to include math, like Pre-Calc and Calc I and II.. did you all do the same?

Any biology, Chemistry & Physics classes count towards the science GPA (but not microbiology, biochemistry or genetics)

 

[Daydream46]

wow, my advisor told me micro, and biochem did count... What about ecology? I needed ecology classes for my bio major? What about a physiology class under the "cell bio/neuroscience" dept?

so are you saying my "baby bio" class would count?

 

[NewMexDent]

I included genetics and ecology in my BCP gpa and if I'd already taken biochem or microbiology I would have added those too. I also included my mentored research credits into my BCP. If your "baby bio" class has a biology prefix to the call number I would definately include it.

 

[crrees]

Any biology, Chemistry & Physics classes count towards the science GPA (but not microbiology, biochemistry or genetics)

what sense does this make?

Your BCP makes up bio, chem and physics

science GPA is micro, bio, genetics, ecology, psychology, etc..

 

[JMJRDH1]

Any biology, Chemistry & Physics classes count towards the science GPA (but not microbiology, biochemistry or genetics)

This is incorrect.

Micro, Biochem and Genetics are all certainly part of the science GPA, as well as a slew of other courses.

You will not really know until you do your AADSAS appplication and have to put in all of your coursework. Then you will get to read the criteria for science/non-science classes.

Here is a list of classes that I took that are considered for the science GPA as taken directly from my AADSAS App for 2007. They are listed as "other science", but count just the same as Bio, Chem and Orgo.

Computer Programming 101
Precalculus
Physical Geology
Calculus
Biostatistics
Epidemiology
Medical Terminology
Nutrition

Hope this helps!

 

[moldovanits]

Any biology, Chemistry & Physics classes count towards the science GPA (but not microbiology, biochemistry or genetics)

false information.
every science course including micro gen all count as science gpa. thats why its called biology chemistry physics and math. all sciences count!!!!

 

[moldovanits]

what sense does this make?

Your BCP makes up bio, chem and physics

science GPA is micro, bio, genetics, ecology, psychology, etc..

psychology doesn't counts as bcpm it s a social science course.

 

[sublimegd]

Computer Programming 101
Precalculus
Physical Geology
Calculus
Biostatistics
Epidemiology
Medical Terminology
Nutrition

Hope this helps!

Please tell me this is true. I took an intro to programming class on visual basic and did really well... But would a class on computer software count? I took this class as filler a few years ago on microsoft office. It was horrible and the professor was an idiot and I think I got a B-. What a stupid stupid class...

 

[moldovanits]

Please tell me this is true. I took an intro to programming class on visual basic and did really well... But would a class on computer software count? I took this class as filler a few years ago on microsoft office. It was horrible and the professor was an idiot and I think I got a B-. What a stupid stupid class...

it wont count as biological science but yes it would in your overall.

 

[sublimegd]

The programming class or the microsoft office class? Both are "computer science" courses, although there isn't anything science about microsoft office. I actually think its kind of silly to have computer science courses count as science at all. Especially considering psychology courses don't count as science. I know most psych courses aren't especially scientific, but they were more scientific than programming.

 

[Daydream46]

Ok, well its getting time to pick out my classes for next semester...

and I have to take orgo lab, and 2 other bio electives for my major.

but in addition to that I need to take some additional credits to graduate.. just any classes I want

So instead of taking a random sociology class or something I was thinking of taking "Chem for life" which is below Gen Chem, so it should be pretty darn easy for me...and should help my science GPA... but I mean is it going to look like I am trying to pull a fast one over on the adcom? Id just rather take something like that anyway.. but the effect on my science GPA doesn't hurt.

Good idea? Bad idea? Neutral?

 

[Louisiana Girl]

Is math counted or not because I thought is wasn't but I saw a post that said it was.

 

[z3u2]

I actually think its kind of silly to have computer science courses count as science at all. Especially considering psychology courses don't count as science. I know most psych courses aren't especially scientific, but they were more scientific than programming.

computer science is more than just "programming", it's called computer "science" for a reason..
it's kind of like saying math is just using calculators, chemistry is just mixing salt with water, physics is having an apple fall off a tree....

 

[sublimegd]

computer science is more than just "programming", it's called computer "science" for a reason..
it's kind of like saying math is just using calculators, chemistry is just mixing salt with water, physics is having an apple fall off a tree....

From wikipedia...
Science in the broadest sense, refers to any systematic knowledge or practice. Examples of the broader use included political science and computer science, which are not incorrectly named, but rather named according to the older and more general use of the word. In a more restricted sense, science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on the scientific method, as well as to the organized body of knowledge gained through such research. This article focuses on the more restricted use of the word.
Fields of science are commonly classified along two major lines:

• Natural sciences, which study natural phenomena (including biological life), and
• Social sciences, which study human behavior and societies.

I know that programming is especially difficult. But I think it is quite clear that dental schools are only concerned with natural sciences. Using the more general use of the word science, I've taken psychology science courses, economic science, music science, english science, art science, and even computer science courses. None of which will count towards my other science GPA.

 

[z3u2]

From wikipedia...
Science in the broadest sense, refers to any systematic knowledge or practice. Examples of the broader use included political science and computer science, which are not incorrectly named, but rather named according to the older and more general use of the word. In a more restricted sense, science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on the scientific method, as well as to the organized body of knowledge gained through such research. This article focuses on the more restricted use of the word.
Fields of science are commonly classified along two major lines:

• Natural sciences, which study natural phenomena (including biological life), and
• Social sciences, which study human behavior and societies.

not to argue but to clarify
"programming" is only a tool, like using calculators, they only teach u programming in (some of) the lower year level courses....
while it is true many upper level courses require u to write codes, the classes never teach u anything about programming.

if one just wants to learn programming, one can go thru some courses in community college and u can learn probably most of the stuff within a year

but doing a 4 year bachelor of science majoring in computer science, u learn the theories and knowledges beyond "how to write codes"
no universities are going to award a 4 year bachelor of science degree by offering programming-only courses.

-----also from wikipedia ----
Some universities teach computer science as a theoretical study of computation and algorithmic reasoning. These programs often feature the theory of computation, analysis of algorithms, formal methods, concurrency theory, databases, computer graphics and systems analysis, among others. They typically also teach computer programming, but treat it as a vessel for the support of other fields of computer science rather than a central focus of high-level study.

Other colleges and universities, as well as secondary schools and vocational programs that teach computer science, emphasize the practice of advanced computer programming rather than the theory of algorithms and computation in their computer science curricula. Such curricula tend to focus on those skills that are important to workers entering the software industry. The practical aspects of computer programming are often referred to as software engineering. However, there is a lot of disagreement over what the term "software engineering" actually means, and whether it is the same thing as programming.

 

[sublimegd]

not to argue but to clarify
"programming" is only a tool, like using calculators, they only teach u programming in (some of) the lower year level courses....
while it is true many upper level courses require u to write codes, the classes never teach u anything about programming.

-----also from wikipedia ----
Some universities teach computer science as a theoretical study of computation and algorithmic reasoning. These programs often feature the theory of computation, analysis of algorithms, formal methods, concurrency theory, databases, computer graphics and systems analysis, among others. They typically also teach computer programming, but treat it as a vessel for the support of other fields of computer science rather than a central focus of high-level study.

Okay, I guess I was using the term programming wrong. When I think programming I do think of computation and algorithmic reasoning, utilizing databases, and all that stuff. Basically using code to accomplish meaningful tasks. I'm a bit confused now though. Is there a generic title for a computer science major graduate who is programming in code utilizing the complex stuff learned at a university? Is this how the term "software engineer" came to be? I thought it was just a euphemism like "sanitary engineer" It makes sense now though, an electrical engineer isn't an electrician.

 

[z3u2]

I'm a bit confused now though. Is there a generic title for a computer science major graduate who is programming in code utilizing the complex stuff learned at a university? Is this how the term "software engineer" came to be? I thought it was just a euphemism like "sanitary engineer" It makes sense now though, an electrical engineer isn't an electrician.

like many university graduates, u learn probably at least 100+ things in a particular field in ur major. If you then choose to work within the same field, the nature of ur work will more likely be focused on only a few of the 100+ things u learned.

So, it is very likely for a computer science graduate to be doing minimal coding in their jobs.

"Software engineering" is a broad term, it sometimes describe a development cycle such that coding is only one of the many phases within the cycle.
Depending on the company structure, one's job may solely be working in one phase all the time (say, testing phase, in this case, they are typically called "Quality Assurance" for a better name, or product maintenance, typically they belong to "customer support"), or sometimes because of the size of the company, one works thru the entire product life cycle, from defining requirement (pre development ) to maintenance (post development), you can call urself software engineer, software developer, i think the title doesn't really matter. Other titles include technical consultant, business analyst etc...

the above all fall within "software engineering", but most of the people i know have a more specific title than SE. Most of them, if their job includes quite a bit of coding, probably call themselves software developer.

not all cs jobs fall within software engineering category too, there's network administrator, database administrator , R&D(research and development), animation designers to name a few.

so i guess to answer ur question, Software Engineer may be a generic term describing many job roles, but it doesn't cover all of possible jobs