Science Prereq.

[chris114]

Hello everyone. I am loosing my mind with this topic. My school is a pretty small one, and they don't offer that many science classes (especially compared to University of Buffalo) My College doesn't offer Pre-Med as a major (just to point that out)

So here is my issue, my school doesn't offer inorganic chemisty with a lab, will this be an issue when applying for med school? (I would ask my advisor but she is ignoring me)

Here are the science courses I plan on taking:

Organic Chemistry I
Organic Chemistry Lab I
Organic Chemistry II
Organic Chemsitry Lab II
Physical Chemistry I
Physical Chemistry II
Physical Chemsitry Lab
Inorganic Chemistry
General Physics 101
General Physics 102

I hope to go to the University at Buffalo, and according to their website, I need biology with lab 2 semesters, chemistry with lab (atleast 2 being organic) 4 semesters, general physics 2 semesters, English 2 semesters, 1 year of humanities, 2 years of social science.

Does anyone have the IDEAL minimum for GPA and MCAT scores for University at Buffalo???

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[Schemp]

I don't understand--how do you even take physical chem having now inorganic chem background? Is there an inorganic chem II available, and any labs for either I or II? That's such a fundamental class to the understanding of physical chem that I can't understand how they don't offer it.

That said, I am pretty sure that you can substitute physical chem for inorganic because it's really just a more complicated version of inorganic. Much like how if you take lower level AP classes (like inorganic chem I), you are recommended to just take a higher level chem class that covers similar material in greater depth for your science credits, rather than taking the lower level class at a college and not really learning anything new.

This is REALLY a question you need to contact U of Buffalo about directly. Get a hold of their admissions office and see what they have to say.

 

[chris114]

I don't understand--how do you even take physical chem having now inorganic chem background? Is there an inorganic chem II available, and any labs for either I or II? That's such a fundamental class to the understanding of physical chem that I can't understand how they don't offer it.

That said, I am pretty sure that you can substitute physical chem for inorganic because it's really just a more complicated version of inorganic. Much like how if you take lower level AP classes (like inorganic chem I), you are recommended to just take a higher level chem class that covers similar material in greater depth for your science credits, rather than taking the lower level class at a college and not really learning anything new.

This is REALLY a question you need to contact U of Buffalo about directly. Get a hold of their admissions office and see what they have to say.

The only other science course thats offered that is close to to inorganic chem is organometallic chemisty.....And No labs for 1 and there is no 2.....So from what your saying Physical chemistry should be after inorganic chem?? I can (according to my catalog) take physical chemistry with the only prereq being...General chem with lab, and general physics, and calculus

 

[witness23]

is there a confusion over gen chem and inorganic chem here?

pre-med pre reqs involve taking 2 semesters of gen chem + lab

chem majors might require inorganic, which deals with symmetry, orbital theory, energy, whatever

 

[jvesco22]

Gen(general) Chem is what you need

General Chem = Inorganic Chem

 

[witness23]

Gen(general) Chem is what you need

General Chem = Inorganic Chem

like ^ said, GENERAL CHEMISTRY I AND II are what you need.

don't mistake the upper level inorg for gen chem. at some schools that course is a beast 🙂

 

[Schemp]

is there a confusion over gen chem and inorganic chem here?

pre-med pre reqs involve taking 2 semesters of gen chem + lab

chem majors might require inorganic, which deals with symmetry, orbital theory, energy, whatever

There definitely is some confusion. I assumed he was referring to general chem as inorganic chem. In my experience they're essentially synonymous since I covered all those topics you discussed during my year of general chem. I, personally, have never taken a class called "inorganic chem."

OP, if you have a general chem class at your school, that's what you're supposed to be taking, not inorganic chem. Again though, this is something you need to discuss with U of Buffalo and hopefully your school counselor as well, whenever you can finally get some of his/her time.

 

[sc1085]

Hello everyone. I am loosing my mind with this topic. My school is a pretty small one, and they don't offer that many science classes (especially compared to University of Buffalo) My College doesn't offer Pre-Med as a major (just to point that out)

So here is my issue, my school doesn't offer inorganic chemisty with a lab, will this be an issue when applying for med school? (I would ask my advisor but she is ignoring me)

Here are the science courses I plan on taking:

Organic Chemistry I
Organic Chemistry Lab I
Organic Chemistry II
Organic Chemsitry Lab II
Physical Chemistry I
Physical Chemistry II
Physical Chemsitry Lab
Inorganic Chemistry
General Physics 101
General Physics 102

I hope to go to the University at Buffalo, and according to their website, I need biology with lab 2 semesters, chemistry with lab (atleast 2 being organic) 4 semesters, general physics 2 semesters, English 2 semesters, 1 year of humanities, 2 years of social science.

Does anyone have the IDEAL minimum for GPA and MCAT scores for University at Buffalo???

For most medical schools you only need 2 semesters w/ labs of:
1)General Chemistry(many people refer to this as inorganic, even though there is an upper level inorganic chemistry class-you don't need it)
2)Organic Chemistry
3)General Biology
4)General Physics
Some schools require calculus, but not too many.
I looked in my MSAR for University of Buffalo. It looks like the school median for GPA is 3.64 (sGPA 3.58) and MCAT is 10V 10PS 10 BS Writing P. For your specific question about minimum requirements, you should probably try to find a thread here on SDN for University at Buffalo SOMBS and ask there. Let me know if this helps you out.

 

[witness23]

honestly, you don't need to talk to your counselors or advisors, ask few classmates and upperclassmen

 

[chris114]

I think there was a huge amount of confusion, so general chemistry satisfies the inorganic chemistry req.?

 

[Schemp]

I think there was a huge amount of confusion, so general chemistry satisfies the inorganic chemistry req.?

No, general chemistry satisfies the general chemistry req. There is no inorganic chemistry requirement; you don't have to ever take it.

 

[greatnt249]

Hello everyone. I am loosing my mind with this topic. My school is a pretty small one, and they don't offer that many science classes (especially compared to University of Buffalo) My College doesn't offer Pre-Med as a major (just to point that out)

So here is my issue, my school doesn't offer inorganic chemisty with a lab, will this be an issue when applying for med school? (I would ask my advisor but she is ignoring me)

Here are the science courses I plan on taking:

Organic Chemistry I
Organic Chemistry Lab I
Organic Chemistry II
Organic Chemsitry Lab II
Physical Chemistry I
Physical Chemistry II
Physical Chemsitry Lab
Inorganic Chemistry
General Physics 101
General Physics 102

I hope to go to the University at Buffalo, and according to their website, I need biology with lab 2 semesters, chemistry with lab (atleast 2 being organic) 4 semesters, general physics 2 semesters, English 2 semesters, 1 year of humanities, 2 years of social science.

Does anyone have the IDEAL minimum for GPA and MCAT scores for University at Buffalo???

Is there a class called "Analytical Chemistry" that you're overlooking? At my school, that satisfied the lab/lecture requirement for general chemistry, as the first semester of general chemistry had no lab.

Along with the others, make sure you're not accidentally taking the upper-level "Inorganic Chemistry" instead of general chemistry.

 

[sc1085]

No, general chemistry satisfies the general chemistry req. There is no inorganic chemistry requirement; you don't have to ever take it.

To clarify the confusion, in the MSAR (medical school admissions requirement) book, inorganic chemistry=general chemistry. However, know that these are two separate classes in undergraduate school. Inorganic chemistry is an upper level class, while general chemistry is lower level.

 

[loveoforganic]

Yeah, inorganic chem referring to general chem bothers me. Inorganic chem is a grad level class damnit!