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apoptosis09 said:
I agree vampy has taken a pretty lead role (corroborated above that I called her our game guru lol) but I'm not so sure this warrants shade toward vampy for stepping up/leading vs beans for not being quite as leadery
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Yea I think more of the critique should go towards beans because if they were a more active leader I'd be less sus of them. Currently, I'm only a little sus of beans because there isn't much to go off of, but their perceived lack of concern for being poisoned is throwing me off
 
vampyrica said:
were my votes wrong? yes, upping someone is always a gamble and i’ll admit when i’m wrong
have i done anything to give wolves an advantage? no

i have actively encouraged people to not strategize in thread, not role reveal, not give out too much information regarding what is going on in their private DM, and encouraged convo amongst everyone so nobody feels left out.

i’m not taking it personally, i just think you’re reading it all wrong
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That's fair, but I also think you're the kind of player and person who would try to help the noobs regardless of your affiliation. It would also help you remain village-y to continue offering advice.

I can also admit when I'm wrong. But right now, I don't see enough evidence to say I am.

Therapist4Chnge said:
Argh!! CG you are killin' me! I still have my suspicions, but I've been kicking around the possibility that the purple text was also a consequence of an action (like poisoning) and it'd be a giant blinking arrow pointed at Fruit, and their word salad responses seem to be meant to confuse. No worries, I was thoroughly confused, still am. That said, the fact that CG shared this makes me wonder their status bc I am also leaning that way.

Ya'll are playing Tri-dementional chess now in WW!!
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WW makes me feel like I'm insane. Usually in a good way, but it really does mess with your head.
 
_rae_ said:
That's fair, but I also think you're the kind of player and person who would try to help the noobs regardless of your affiliation. It would also help you remain village-y to continue offering advice.

I can also admit when I'm wrong. But right now, I don't see enough evidence to say I am.
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c’est la vie
 
SORRYNOTSORRY
Village read: :=|:-):
Vamps - gives me the vibes of a more experienced and involved player, I think a lot of you are taking to bait with the post first thing
spiane - newer player vibes, has tried to be helpful and logic things out
rae - provides good insight and pushes back as is approproate
PBC - gives me the vibes of a more experienced and strong player, village vibes for sure
spurs - gives me the vibes of a more experienced and strong player, more reserved but adds relevant points when necessary

Unknown: :shrug:
Fruit - I still have the gut notion to trust, though I can't deny it could be possible the purple text thing is a ruse. I think it is probably just smoke in reality.
nicole - I don't think I have enough info at all on this person. They are busy and haven't contributed a whole lot.
apoptosis -I just can't get a good read on you yet.


SUS: :beat:
T4C - Undeniably strange posts yesterday. Hasn't really provided a lot of solid leads. I still have the hunch one of the people we voted for yesterday is W.
CeeGee - Undeniable strange posts yesterday. I am starting to warm up, but I still have the hunch one of the people we voted for yesterday is W.
Beans - The entire poisoning scenario just still leaves me feeling off. The mayor yet not providing a whole lot of leadership. Again, i feel they are trying very hard to appear neutral.

Dead:
skisk - seems checked out of the game (TOWNIE oops srry...)
Indie (CONFIRMED TOWNIE)
 
I'm torn between PBC and vampy. Assuming fruit was telling the truth, at least one of them is likely not village. But which one is the question.
That being said, if people want to continue with the T4C wagon, I do think we would get good information from yeeting them too.
 
Okay so a few of us have noted being sus of beans and beans is targeting only PBC and vampy. No CeeGee and T4C who have been prime suspects. I think PBC is generally viewed as villagey? I agree with katie's points. I also think vampy is village because she's been very helpful. Something here is off and I think katie is right to say that at least one person we voted for yesterday is a wolf
 
beans2020 said:
Also - IDK if this will help address the mayor leadership concerns or not. But I am at home visiting family this week before school starts so I'm trying to balance both this game and time with them. That's why I've been absent at times.
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Like I said, family time is more important than game time.

It does make some more sense.

Gun to your head, who do you want to vote out most?
 
beans2020 said:
I'm torn between PBC and vampy. Assuming fruit was telling the truth, at least one of them is likely not village. But which one is the question.
That being said, if people want to continue with the T4C wagon, I do think we would get good information from yeeting them too.
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Why are we suspecting PBC? (i may have missed something. curious)
 
beans2020 said:
I'm torn between PBC and vampy. Assuming fruit was telling the truth, at least one of them is likely not village. But which one is the question.
That being said, if people want to continue with the T4C wagon, I do think we would get good information from yeeting them too.
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this isn’t helpful or help your sus-ness…

are you agreeing with focusing on me and PBC or should we focus on T4C?
 
beans2020 said:
I'm torn between PBC and vampy. Assuming fruit was telling the truth, at least one of them is likely not village. But which one is the question.
That being said, if people want to continue with the T4C wagon, I do think we would get good information from yeeting them too.
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spiane said:
Okay so a few of us have noted being sus of beans and beans is targeting only PBC and vampy. No CeeGee and T4C who have been prime suspects. I think PBC is generally viewed as villagey? I agree with katie's points. I also think vampy is village because she's been very helpful. Something here is off and I think katie is right to say that at least one person we voted for yesterday is a wolf
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vampyrica said:
this isn’t helpful or help your sus-ness…

are you agreeing with focusing on me and PBC or should we focus on T4C?
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BIG RED BLINKING ARROW
 
vampyrica said:
fruit said they looked and me and PBC last night and found we do not have the same affiliation aka:

one of us is town and the other wolf
one of us is town and the other 3p
one of us is 3P and the other wolf
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@fruitsalad how would you know this (I am a noob so i am confused)?
 
spiane said:
BIG RED BLINKING ARROW
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Arrow GIF
 
fruit can explain more since i’m not helping myself by trying to explain things.

there are abilities someone could have to view player affiliations. i won’t drop what the roles are bc i dont want wolves to sniff out which one we have, but i have a good idea on what fruit is.

what confuses me is…if PBC knows what fruit is, and fruit knows PBC and I are not the same affiliation, then we have 2 of the same roles which doesn’t seem plausible at all
 
katiemcat said:
@fruitsalad how would you know this (I am a noob so i am confused)?
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spiane said:
I am double confused
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fruitsalad said:
alright guys, I think I blindsided the wolves based on the interactions last night, but let's work things out

yesterday, I was looking into the events that happened with the sksisk wagon, and I noticed the theme that if one or two players point out something (e.g., sksisk made a weird post, refuses to elaborate etc.), the wagon starts to build up with many others recycling the same reasoning. I think this is a good chance for wolves to blend in. the same goes for reactions toward me (e.g. fruit is a tricky player, I see why fruit is a tricky player etc.), or in context of mayor vote (the beans wagon building up quickly and then stagnating).

sksisk flipping village led to my thinking that we may be getting misdirected somewhere, and likely misreading people

so, I looked into vampy and PBC last night and found out they don't have the same affiliation (they aren't both village or both wolves, so something weird is happening). i looked into them because they're most experienced and village read pretty well, so if there's a spot for misdirection, it could be between these two. i think the purple text is a consequence of my finding a wolf or someone acting on me because I was pretty popular the previous day and a lot of people were discussing about me, the message wasn't clear on that aspect.

i responded last night intending to see how people respond to me. some seemed genuine, but others are either misunderstanding what I'm saying or adding to further confusion. i'm not sure why rae continues to misunderstand me, but PBC apparently overly fixated on one point regarding the poisoner and somehow misinterpreted that significantly despite I was clear on that point earlier.

as I mentioned with my earlier points against rae, I think wolves are trying to latch onto the notion I'm tricky (for anyone interested, tricky was referring to the last game I wolfed in "I hate being N1'd" that had unusual mechanics [no nights, having to vote among three people chosen by the player who was yeeted before], and my not voting to self-prez. but extrapolating from one game with nonstandard mechanics is a bit unrealistic). i think the bigger issue is wolves misinterpreting what I'm saying, which i think is intentional to stoke more confusion and pushing the tricky narrative, and wolves recycling reasons to suspect someone and piling onto a wagon and letting it stagnate.

I'll maintain my wolfreads on CG and T4C, but I'm going to go with this for now:

unyeet CG
yeet PBC
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here
 
katiemcat said:
Can I also ask why you selected to vote PBC over Vamps?
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i think vampy was targeted by wolves last night, as the writeups don't sound great. and PBC didn't feel good from the misinterpretations (not just to me, also to few others like spurs).
 
I'll jump in here.

There are basic role types that come in different flavors. Seeing a player's role name, affiliation, role type, etc are all types of "seer" or "investigative" roles, but they give you different info. Affiliation tends to be a village seer ability (unless there are a ton of 3p players and they're part of the wolf win condition), seeing player name could be any faction, seeing role type could be any faction. This game is power heavy and from what we know, there are multiple flavors of each basic role type in play.

From what Frutie has said and what I've been told about them, they're reading as village to me. I don't have any reason to doubt the vampy/me info they're sharing.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I'll jump in here.

There are basic role types that come in different flavors. Seeing a player's role name, affiliation, role type, etc are all types of "seer" or "investigative" roles, but they give you different info. Affiliation tends to be a village seer ability (unless there are a ton of 3p players and they're part of the wolf win condition), seeing player name could be any faction, seeing role type could be any faction. This game is power heavy and from what we know, there are multiple flavors of each basic role type in play.

From what Frutie has said and what I've been told about them, they're reading as village to me. I don't have any reason to doubt the vampy/me info they're sharing.
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Thank you for this wisdom.

I haven't been a fruit doubter - so I am also inclined to believe they are being truthful.

I guess it depends if we want to take a risk on:
1. Voting T4C or CeeGee - people we already suspected
2. Vote for Vamps OR PCB knowing they are not the same affiliation - risking killing a villager and/or 3pc
 
Yes, the PBC and vampy suspicion is because of what fruit found out during the night cycle. If he's telling the truth, at least one of them is not village. It's easy to lie and claim you are a vanilla villager.
I'm still suspicious of T4C, just for different reasons (the defensiveness being a big one). I'm trying to weigh if it's a better use of our votes to:
a) trust fruit and flip vampy or pbc
b) flip T4C as most of us have been suspicious of them for a while

Gun to head, I'd probably flip pbc. I don't love that they're claiming to know fruit's role but not explaining why and I think it's likely that vampy was targeted last night cycle. Plus PBC immediately made the "I'm villager" claim without much further elaboration as to why we should yeet vampy over them.
 
wait. hold on.

if what fruit is saying is true, and if what PBC is saying is true and they are village, and i KNOW i’m village. is it possible fruit’s results are not accurate but were interfered with by 3p/wolves? just like how voting order was interfered with? and how genny’s death interfered with N0 results?
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I'll jump in here.

There are basic role types that come in different flavors. Seeing a player's role name, affiliation, role type, etc are all types of "seer" or "investigative" roles, but they give you different info. Affiliation tends to be a village seer ability (unless there are a ton of 3p players and they're part of the wolf win condition), seeing player name could be any faction, seeing role type could be any faction. This game is power heavy and from what we know, there are multiple flavors of each basic role type in play.

From what Frutie has said and what I've been told about them, they're reading as village to me. I don't have any reason to doubt the vampy/me info they're sharing.
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This clears up a lot thank you
 
beans2020 said:
Yes, the PBC and vampy suspicion is because of what fruit found out during the night cycle. If he's telling the truth, at least one of them is not village. It's easy to lie and claim you are a vanilla villager.
I'm still suspicious of T4C, just for different reasons (the defensiveness being a big one). I'm trying to weigh if it's a better use of our votes to:
a) trust fruit and flip vampy or pbc
b) flip T4C as most of us have been suspicious of them for a while

Gun to head, I'd probably flip pbc. I don't love that they're claiming to know fruit's role but not explaining why and I think it's likely that vampy was targeted last night cycle. Plus PBC immediately made the "I'm villager" claim without much further elaboration as to why we should yeet vampy over them.
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I'm curious though as PBC affirming fruit is putting themself in danger - i'm unsure they would do this as a W
 
vampyrica said:
wait. hold on.

if what fruit is saying is true, and if what PBC is saying is true and they are village, and i KNOW i’m village. is it possible fruit’s results are not accurate but were interfered with by 3p/wolves? just like how voting order was interfered with? and how genny’s death interfered with N0 results?
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That feels like a lot of power useage, but then again fruit claims they were ACTED ON* on N1.
That would leave the Vamp votes first and poison beans (?) as N2 moves.

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I also think vampy was targeted so it doesn't make sense for me to vote for her. I feel like the risk of voting either vamp or PBC is high because of the risk of killing a villager. I think we should stick with who we were initially suspicious of now that we have some inclination that fruit is probably villager due to the affiliation/seer role thing.
katiemcat said:
I'm curious though as PBC affirming fruit is putting themself in danger - i'm unsure they would do this as a W
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Yea I don't see why she would do that otherwise so I'm inclined to believe her. If fruit was more sus then maybe I'd have reason to doubt? But I think the risk for going that direction is too high. We already lost 2 villagers
 
katiemcat said:
I'm curious though as PBC affirming fruit is putting themself in danger - i'm unsure they would do this as a W
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That's a fair point. I will say, they still haven't explained WHY they are affirming fruit. If PBC is wolf, I could see them saying something like "yes fruit is right and I am village" without further detail (as they have) in an effort to pin it on vampy.
 
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