SDN Fairgrounds - 10th Annual Noob WW Game

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My fellow citizens, a great tragedy has befallen us this first night of fair. We must honor genny's sacrifice by working together to find the darker forces among us. We cannot let genny's death be in vain!!
(Genny, if you can hear us from the spirit land, thank you for making the ultimate sacrifice)

-Mayor beans
 
My fellow citizens, a great tragedy has befallen us this first night of fair. We must honor genny's sacrifice by working together to find the darker forces among us. We cannot let genny's death be in vain!!
(Genny, if you can hear us from the spirit land, thank you for making the ultimate sacrifice)

-Mayor beans
oh wise mayor beans, what do we do from here?
 
My fellow citizens, a great tragedy has befallen us this first night of fair. We must honor genny's sacrifice by working together to find the darker forces among us. We cannot let genny's death be in vain!!
(Genny, if you can hear us from the spirit land, thank you for making the ultimate sacrifice)

-Mayor beans
Mayor beans can you perform a vibe check with your mayor powers to snuff out the wolves
 
okay back to big brain vampy gameplay:

• genny N1 revealed 3p
we should not move forward totally eliminating the possibility that there’s more 3p involved in the game, but we shouldn’t make too much of an effort on trying to figure out who 3p is. i think it would be something to just keep in the back of our mind. main goal should be finding and eliminating wolves.
 
Was this basically whoever the wolves picked didn’t die bc of the sacrifice…? Or…? *cries in noob*
This got me too. Is this a situation where there was already a predetermined sacrifice? Or there was something else at play?

My first and only game had no powers in it but I know they can be a thing ….. maybe that’s in play?

Can anyone else who’s played a normal game (not me or Rae) explain what could’ve happened?
 
okay back to big brain vampy gameplay:

• genny N1 revealed 3p
we should not move forward totally eliminating the possibility that there’s more 3p involved in the game, but we shouldn’t make too much of an effort on trying to figure out who 3p is. i think it would be something to just keep in the back of our mind. main goal should be finding and eliminating wolves.
i wrote this weird:

basically, we can’t trust that genny was the only 3p, but we shouldn’t be hyperfocused on that possibility. just something to keep in mind
 
Is that what it means? Seems like nobody found the body...

IDK. maybe I'm just extra paranoid from being a n00b, but if this was always destined to happen then why did it take an hour for "processing?" Seems like this could have been queued up by the mods from the beginning if it was always planned.
Everyone who submitted night actions needed to have their results sent to them, which takes time, and sometimes requires spreadsheet magic. People can change night actions up until the end of the cycle so if anyone waffled the mods wouldn't have their results queued yet. And irl stuff can sometimes slow down write ups and close as well. I would not analyze how long "processing" takes because it's just not informative. Also, our mods are awesome and we love them and we do not mind waiting for results.
 
oh wise mayor beans, what do we do from here?
Dear vampy, admittedly that's a hard one bc we really don't have much to go off of here.
The best I can come up with is we try to pick out anyone who has acted even a little suspicious. Anyone rub you slightly the wrong way? Say something that made you blink twice?
Maybe throw some gut reaction reads lists around too just for funsies?
 
This got me too. Is this a situation where there was already a predetermined sacrifice? Or there was something else at play?

My first and only game had no powers in it but I know they can be a thing ….. maybe that’s in play?

Can anyone else who’s played a normal game (not me or Rae) explain what could’ve happened?
yes! there’s a few options here:

1: wolf NK could have been cancelled due to the predetermined death of genny
2: wolf NK could have been blocked by another player, which would mean someone might have information on someone else
3: wolf NK could have never been an option to begin with (as is whoever the primary killer is, could have gotten a message in their role stating they can’t kill until after N1) therefore nobody was picked for a kill
 
yes! there’s a few options here:

1: wolf NK could have been cancelled due to the predetermined death of genny
2: wolf NK could have been blocked by another player, which would mean someone might have information on someone else
3: wolf NK could have never been an option to begin with (as is whoever the primary killer is, could have gotten a message in their role stating they can’t kill until after N1) therefore nobody was picked for a kill
This is so helpful and yet so mind-boggling for these fair villagers.
 
Everyone turned toward the arena where the seasoned Daredevil prepared her grand stunt. She stood tall in her sequined jacket, eyes glinting with the confidence of someone who had danced with danger more times than she could count. For years, she had been a fixture of the fair - guiding, teaching, watching over.

She mounted her rig, the crowd breathless as the lights flared. Fireworks cracked against the night sky, painting her silhouette in sparks. With every gesture, every flourish, it was clear this was more than entertainment...it was a distraction, a shield. For she, perhaps alone, understood: there were darker forces gathering here, hidden in plain sight. She would not let them strike tonight.
seems like whatever genny did N1 blocked the wolves from killing?
 
Everyone who submitted night actions needed to have their results sent to them, which takes time, and sometimes requires spreadsheet magic. People can change night actions up until the end of the cycle so if anyone waffled the mods wouldn't have their results queued yet. And irl stuff can sometimes slow down write ups and close as well. I would not analyze how long "processing" takes because it's just not informative. Also, our mods are awesome and we love them and we do not mind waiting for results.
But I guess my point is, wouldn't this cancel out anyone's other actions? I love the mods too, but assuming this was intended to just cancel everything it seems like they could have just had this write up ready to go at 8:01 pm, PM'd everyone that their actions were null, and posted this.

I'm sure this is way more complicated than I'm imagining, so PROBABLY I'm reading way further into this than I should. I'm just saying... I'm not sure I'm buying that this is as straightforward as a "night of safety."
 
I would love to hear anyone and everyone's thoughts at this point!
(Everything is helpful so don't worry if you feel like your thoughts aren't great or if you're not sure who may be wolfy...in my last game I don't think I had a *good* reads list until the end of the game.)
Consider this a kind of town hall situation!
 
But I guess my point is, wouldn't this cancel out anyone's other actions? I love the mods too, but assuming this was intended to just cancel everything it seems like they could have just had this write up ready to go at 8:01 pm, PM'd everyone that their actions were null, and posted this.

I'm sure this is way more complicated than I'm imagining, so PROBABLY I'm reading way further into this than I should. I'm just saying... I'm not sure I'm buying that this is as straightforward as a "night of safety."
i’m not sure if it’s still in the rules (im on mobile rn) but typically there is a disclaimer that the time between action submission and the start of the next cycle doesn’t mean anything but rather give the mods the opportunity to regroup.
 
This got me too. Is this a situation where there was already a predetermined sacrifice? Or there was something else at play?

My first and only game had no powers in it but I know they can be a thing ….. maybe that’s in play?

Can anyone else who’s played a normal game (not me or Rae) explain what could’ve happened?
Her role type was described by the mods as destined to die night 1, so I read that as a predetermined sacrifice. I would be pretty shocked if anything could have derailed that type of role design.

As a neutral 3rd party, it's possible she never counted towards village numbers, too. There can also be chaos roles that have their own win conditions, and cool mechanics like that.

I'm pretty sure the mods said in one of the first posts that this game will have a lot of abilities floating around, so the fact that Genny died based on her role doesn't preclude other people from having used abilities on anyone else last night.
 
yes! there’s a few options here:

1: wolf NK could have been cancelled due to the predetermined death of genny
2: wolf NK could have been blocked by another player, which would mean someone might have information on someone else
3: wolf NK could have never been an option to begin with (as is whoever the primary killer is, could have gotten a message in their role stating they can’t kill until after N1) therefore nobody was picked for a kill
You could have posted this before my wild speculation above... 😛
 
But I guess my point is, wouldn't this cancel out anyone's other actions? I love the mods too, but assuming this was intended to just cancel everything it seems like they could have just had this write up ready to go at 8:01 pm, PM'd everyone that their actions were null, and posted this.

I'm sure this is way more complicated than I'm imagining, so PROBABLY I'm reading way further into this than I should. I'm just saying... I'm not sure I'm buying that this is as straightforward as a "night of safety."
i see what you're getting at but i think this is set up in a way that's independent of what happened in night, at least according to the rules:

Night actions are due at 8pm EDT during the night cycle to allow extra time for processing so the thread can open relatively on time. The thread will be OPEN for chatter during the night cycle but may be locked between cycle closes and writeup postings.
 
Also, spurs raises an interesting question - other players with night actions (if you are comfortable sharing) were your actions nullified?
I would ask the wolves directly if their night kill was nullified...but I get the feeling they may not want to answer me 🤣
 
Also, spurs raises an interesting question - other players with night actions (if you are comfortable sharing) were your actions nullified?
I would ask the wolves directly if their night kill was nullified...but I get the feeling they may not want to answer me 🤣
I think it wouldn't matter for the wolves if I understand correctly, since nobody would've known about genny until the wrap-up, which means the wolves would've probably voted for someone, it just didn't have any effect.

As far as other night actions though, idk if they would've been "wasted" if they were single-use and they tried to use them last night
 
As the sun slipped below the horizon, the fairgrounds did not quiet. The midway glittered with strings of bulbs, rides creaked into motion, and the scent of fried dough mingled with sawdust and livestock musk. Fairgoers bustled about their duties - some tending to animals, some checking ride safety harnesses, some vanishing into the crowd with unseen errands. The night was alive with motion, whispers, and decisions, each worker moving with purpose, though none could see the full picture of what was unfolding.

And then the call went out. A hush swept across the grounds. Everyone turned toward the arena where the seasoned Daredevil prepared her grand stunt. She stood tall in her sequined jacket, eyes glinting with the confidence of someone who had danced with danger more times than she could count. For years, she had been a fixture of the fair - guiding, teaching, watching over.

She mounted her rig, the crowd breathless as the lights flared. Fireworks cracked against the night sky, painting her silhouette in sparks. With every gesture, every flourish, it was clear this was more than entertainment...it was a distraction, a shield. For she, perhaps alone, understood: there were darker forces gathering here, hidden in plain sight. She would not let them strike tonight.

The air was electric as she leapt - twisting, flipping, defying gravity itself. Gasps and cheers echoed across the fairgrounds, her performance dazzling and impossible, meant to hold every gaze. The roar of the crowd masked the falter - the split-second where something went wrong. The stunt spiraled beyond control, and in a blaze of flame and smoke, she fell, her body crashing through the net with a sound that echoed in the night. Gasps gave way to silence, then to stunned applause, many believing the spectacle was part of the show. And then the applause turned to screams as the moments ticked by and she did not rise.

Those who had known her felt the truth: this was no accident. The Daredevil had offered herself, one final time, to buy them a night of safety. When the smoke cleared, only ashes and awe remained.
it reads to me the night was active, but whatever was going on stopped and focused on genny's performance
 
I think it wouldn't matter for the wolves if I understand correctly, since nobody would've known about genny until the wrap-up, which means the wolves would've probably voted for someone, it just didn't have any effect.

As far as other night actions though, idk if they would've been "wasted" if they were single-use and they tried to use them last night
I wonder if Santa Genny knew that she’d be sacrificed, chose it, or found out after the fact?? Or maybe “sacrifice” is equal to a null result or wheel spin? Did the wolves forget to submit on time?
 
I'm feeling some questionable vibes from Frutie. They were super active during the mayor vote but did not want to be considered themselves. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but since they were one of the most active people that day it feels off. They could have a non-village affiliation and didn't want to take on the extra night attention that the mayor could get from people who have seer abilities or items.

just don’t elect fruits, i’m happy being a swing voter

I also find it super sus that they're reacting to almost every single post in the game thread. It seems like a potentially scummy tactic to prevent us from using their likes/reactions to get a read on them because they're treating every post the same.

And finally, I thought it was a little suspicious that they were trying to get other players to share thoughts during night cycle, which can sometimes benefit the wolves more than the village. I brought up the potential danger of night strategizing, especially for N1, and they were still probing after that so I've got to give them a little extra side eye for that.

@Therapist4Chnge what are your thoughts so far?
 
Also, spurs raises an interesting question - other players with night actions (if you are comfortable sharing) were your actions nullified?
I would ask the wolves directly if their night kill was nullified...but I get the feeling they may not want to answer me 🤣
No no no please be really cautious about when or if you reveal having night actions!!! Wolves want to get rid players with power roles, they'd so rather yeet a player with a power than a vanilla villager. Keep that on the dl, especially this early in the game
 
I'm feeling some questionable vibes from Frutie. They were super active during the mayor vote but did not want to be considered themselves. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but since they were one of the most active people that day it feels off. They could have a non-village affiliation and didn't want to take on the extra night attention that the mayor could get from people who have seer abilities or items.
that post you quoted was made in jest (although contrary to your interpretation, part of me did want to see votes falling my way to see what would happen, since I know people would be tempted to vote for me after making that post)
I also find it super sus that they're reacting to almost every single post in the game thread.
that's just my appreciation for content and a way for me to follow up without commenting!
It seems like a potentially scummy tactic to prevent us from using their likes/reactions to get a read on them because they're treating every post the same.
reacts can be informative!
And finally, I thought it was a little suspicious that they were trying to get other players to share thoughts during night cycle, which can sometimes benefit the wolves more than the village. I brought up the potential danger of night strategizing, especially for N1, and they were still probing after that so I've got to give them a little extra side eye for that.
sharing thoughts doesn't mean sharing reads, a few players were inactive or catching up without commenting, and I wanted to see where they're at since the day was a little less active.
 
No no no please be really cautious about when or if you reveal having night actions!!! Wolves want to get rid players with power roles, they'd so rather yeet a player with a power than a vanilla villager. Keep that on the dl, especially this early in the game
Very, very good point PBC! Probably should have thought about that eek 😱
 
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