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So was this deathless night planned or did the wolves forget to submit a night kill and this was the backup plan?
im wondering if this special event cancelled the wolf kill, or if the wolf was 1) inactive and forgot, 2) strategically chose not to do the night kill to keep us confused.

in which case, i have some suspicions but will keep those to myself until tomorrow when we are all mostly online so we have active back and forth discussion in chat
 
Just gonna post now before I forget in the morning:
or if the wolf was 1) inactive and forgot
Since that is a possibility, could Nicole be a possible W? I get that she has orientation and I know from experience how draining that is, but she also hasn't given us much to go off of, which has landed her squarely in the neutral read zone for most people.

And this is my inexperience speaking, but is it normal to have so many interferences with W kills and night actions?
 
!!!! IF ANYONE IS HEALER DO NOT REVEAL YOURSELF WE NEED YOU AS LONG AS POSSIBLE !!!!

soft confirming without outright saying it would be okay, but plz dont be too obvious
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

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Edit: dis joke, realized some may not know. No gameplay.
 
Just gonna post now before I forget in the morning:

Since that is a possibility, could Nicole be a possible W? I get that she has orientation and I know from experience how draining that is, but she also hasn't given us much to go off of, which has landed her squarely in the neutral read zone for most people.

And this is my inexperience speaking, but is it normal to have so many interferences with W kills and night actions?
I don't post as often as others here (orientation sucks guys 🙁 ) , but I can confirm that I've successfully used my action every night including last night.
 
Just gonna post now before I forget in the morning:

Since that is a possibility, could Nicole be a possible W? I get that she has orientation and I know from experience how draining that is, but she also hasn't given us much to go off of, which has landed her squarely in the neutral read zone for most people.

And this is my inexperience speaking, but is it normal to have so many interferences with W kills and night actions?
i’ve actually never seen so much action happening during night cycle in any game i’ve personally played, but i’m sure the WW veterans have seen much worse than we have here!

even prior to nicole’s response, i don’t think nicole is W. these kills seem….calculated? versus random. so the team either has hella experienced wolf players, or they are active enough to scheme amongst eachother to make kill decisions
 
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

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Edit: dis joke, realized some may not know. No gameplay.
THE DUCKS NEED TO GO!! THEYRE EATING THE GRASS, THEYRE POOPING ON THE LAWN. ITS NOT GOOD, WHERE DID THEY GET THEIR PERMITS TO BE AT THIS FAIR?? WE SHOULD LOOK MORE INTO THE DUCKS. THEY ARE SCHEMING!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
 
i’ve actually never seen so much action happening during night cycle in any game i’ve personally played, but i’m sure the WW veterans have seen much worse than we have here!

even prior to nicole’s response, i don’t think nicole is W. these kills seem….calculated? versus random. so the team either has hella experienced wolf players, or they are active enough to scheme amongst eachother to make kill decisions
We've only had one W kill so far and that was Indy, may they rest in peace. Don't worry, Indy, we'll take good care of your ducks. I figured the W took out Indy since they were one of the few players in the early game that people were reading as solid V. Seems like a decent W strategy: let the V vote out sus people and target the the ones who have been rated as V.

As for the T4C and sksisk misyeets....It's making me question the whole, "vote out inactive people instead of sus but active people." That mentality has led me to voting for TWO V with powerful abilities. And I don't know if I want to risk a go with 3rd time's the charm and follow that train of thought again
 
THE DUCKS NEED TO GO!! THEYRE EATING THE GRASS, THEYRE POOPING ON THE LAWN. ITS NOT GOOD, WHERE DID THEY GET THEIR PERMITS TO BE AT THIS FAIR?? WE SHOULD LOOK MORE INTO THE DUCKS. THEY ARE SCHEMING!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
HEY THEY ARE A PART OF THIS FAIR WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT! THEY'RE INDY'S CHILDREN AND WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM, DANG IT!
 
THE DUCKS NEED TO GO!! THEYRE EATING THE GRASS, THEYRE POOPING ON THE LAWN. ITS NOT GOOD, WHERE DID THEY GET THEIR PERMITS TO BE AT THIS FAIR?? WE SHOULD LOOK MORE INTO THE DUCKS. THEY ARE SCHEMING!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!! -VMP

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You missed referencing the tiny hands of the ducks……

And signing off with your initials (fixed it above) 🤣🤣🤣

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We've only had one W kill so far and that was Indy, may they rest in peace. Don't worry, Indy, we'll take good care of your ducks. I figured the W took out Indy since they were one of the few players in the early game that people were reading as solid V. Seems like a decent W strategy: let the V vote out sus people and target the the ones who have been rated as V.

As for the T4C and sksisk misyeets....It's making me question the whole, "vote out inactive people instead of sus but active people." That mentality has led me to voting for TWO V with powerful abilities. And I don't know if I want to risk a go with 3rd time's the charm and follow that train of thought again
i think your analysis is solid here and slightly helping your case towards more towny.

as for the misyeets, one inactive yeet, fine sure we took an L but its helping us in the long run. a second misyeet, where information was dropped at the very end but it was too late to do anything, f-ing brutal.

the whole voting by inactivity thing is over now and old news. we need strategic voting from here on out. no more “its just vibes, they feel icky to me”. if you’re gonna drop a vote, you need to back it up with solid reasons. @fruitsalad is the only somewhat exception to this rule bc their gamestyle heavily relies on switching votes and getting the group’s reactions and calling it out
 
I think it's pretty clear that fruit is likely village at this point. Yes, the purple thing was confusing and whatever but the real story is in the whole vampy/PBC/fruit thing. Fruit apparently has an ability to see people's affiliation, and we have confirmed from PBC and vampy themselves that they are different affiliations. Yes, they could be lying, but I don't see why they would be lying to protect fruit when both fruit and T4C tried to look into rae but were blocked. We know that T4C was village so it's compelling. Because of the revealed power ability, it's likely that fruit is high on the W's kill list so you immediately voting for him and your explanation being a "gut feeling" makes me curious about you.

Fruit is strong village to me. Why would they risk revealing their useful power and risk being killed otherwise.
Look, I’m just using fruits’s own methods on him 🙂 Fair game to keep pressure on people, right?

And I get it. It’s a little wacky, and maybe something comes out tomorrow that makes me shift.I’m on vacation, maybe im anchored to something that happened before because I haven’t done the deep dive that others have done. And if I’m being honest, a big part of me just wants to let this whole thing go because clearly this idea doesn’t sit well with the group. But I feel like there are some legitimate questions that have not been answered. And given how the game is going, I’m not comfortable with just deciding “well, fruits gave us this information, forevermore he must be V and we don’t need to worry about him anymore.” I feel like going with obvious narratives have not worked out well for us.

@fruitsalad , if you could answer at least part of this question, I would feel better about backing off: seriously, what do you know about the purple words thing? You initially said “I don’t know what happened,” then you said “yes something happened but I don’t want to elaborate because reasons.” Then you said you “wanted to bring clarity and be an open book” but still didn’t provide any useful information about the purple speech thing. You finally provided speculation that “the purple text might be a consequence of finding a wolf or someone acting on me.” Those seem like wildly differing possible reasons. So, is there something you can share now that we are further out? Were you maybe restricted while you were purple and able to share more information now?

There are other pieces that don’t sit great with me that I don’t need to rehash, but this is the biggest sticking point for me. Obviously, I’m taking a massive risk even continuing to push on this line of questioning, so I hope I’ll be given some benefit of the doubt that my reasons for questioning are genuine. I just don’t want to come to the end of another day and have another misyeet, and wish I had taken a chance to ask these questions that were still bothering me. If there is some additional information you have that you’re withholding, I would really like to hear it, because each day the risk increases a little bit more.
 
im wondering if this special event cancelled the wolf kill, or if the wolf was 1) inactive and forgot, 2) strategically chose not to do the night kill to keep us confused.
Is there a secret 3rd option that they choose not to kill and instead do an action (from what it sounds like, a wolf with an action can't kill and act the same night? And so far we all have actions, so wouldn't be surprised if wolves do). Is it then possible a wolf could recruit instead of kill?
I was really banking on the flip from a nk to inform strategy, so now I'm not any less confused 😅
 
Is there a secret 3rd option that they choose not to kill and instead do an action (from what it sounds like, a wolf with an action can't kill and act the same night? And so far we all have actions, so wouldn't be surprised if wolves do). Is it then possible a wolf could recruit instead of kill?
I was really banking on the flip from a nk to inform strategy, so now I'm not any less confused 😅
Just from a game theory standpoint (since that’s all I have to go on), it would seem overpowered for the villagers to all have powers and the wolves not have anything. ESP if we feel like some of the abilities have been anti-villager.

Whether there could be a power that would have to skip the NK to use is anyone’s guess. It seems in the realm of possibility. If that’s the case though, whatever that ability is we don’t see any signs of it, and I would have to imagine it would be pretty juicy to be worth giving up an NK
 
Is there a secret 3rd option that they choose not to kill and instead do an action (from what it sounds like, a wolf with an action can't kill and act the same night? And so far we all have actions, so wouldn't be surprised if wolves do). Is it then possible a wolf could recruit instead of kill?
I was really banking on the flip from a nk to inform strategy, so now I'm not any less confused 😅
i think its unlikely we have conversions (i think that was your question?) and you could act and kill in the same night atleast i was able to in the last game i played as wolf, there wasn’t a limit on what you could do unless predisclosed by the mods
 
If this is anyone's reasoning at this point then that's going to make me sus about them. I think we have enough information on almost everybody to vote with at least some reasoning behind it
the only wild card i have in my list right now, is nicole. simply because she’s been busy with orientation
 
speaking of orientation, today is orientation for my MPH yippee. i won’t have half as good as a time or get a swag bag like everyone in vet school is getting (major FOMO) but hopefully it will be informational?

so i will be gone majority of the morning/early afternoon and checking in periodically!!

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Yea she was the reason I added "almost" before everybody 😆
@nicoledoesvetstuff hey ilysm. you’re doing great, are you able to be a little more active this evening and this weekend?? ik vet school orientation has been PACKED full of info and running around, so for sure take a break, but we’re still having a difficult time reading you 🙁((((
 
@nicoledoesvetstuff hey ilysm. you’re doing great, are you able to be a little more active this evening and this weekend?? ik vet school orientation has been PACKED full of info and running around, so for sure take a break, but we’re still having a difficult time reading you 🙁((((
I strongly read Nicole as V.

I would also appreciate if they posted more to get other perspectives, but orientation is like full day activities.
 
I strongly read Nicole as V.

I would also appreciate if they posted more to get other perspectives, but orientation is like full day activities.
i’m leaning towards V too, mostly because in my head in doesn’t make sense if she’s a power role wolf, she would be able to catch up to the 10+ pages of info we have a day and make a kill or action decision then.

plus she fully stated her action went through last night. lying about that is highly unlikely
 
edit: read all that and make a decision after being busy with orientation all day!!! not doubting her abilities to catch up
 
Here is my updated reads list (as promised). Disclaimer, I went into today's list with a bit of a different reasoning than previous days. I want to track down whoever poisoned me because poisoning is a wolf ability. It seems very very likely to me that one of the wolves poisoned me. Getting the village mayor killed would be a huge benefit to them. Today's list is everyone in order from most village to least village. With no further ado:

village lean
katie - she has made very village contributions so far and I don't think she had anything to do with poisoning me. Especially since she has questioned it multiple times (a good trait for a villager to have).

Fruit - their claim to be a seer convinced me he's village. You don't claim that unless you need to as then you are a target for the wolves.

Nicole - I believe I know her role and it's a village role. However I don't want to state what it is as it hasn't been directly stated in thread and I don't want the wolves to know. I can elaborate on this further if needed, but again I'd rather keep this on the down low. (Not healer though)

Spurs - he's kinda like Katie in that he asks good village questions. He also didn't bus T4C yesterday which I think is a good sign. He hasn't done anything to make me think he poisoned me. Though I guess anything's possible.

CeeGee - their thread posts over the past couple days have made me start leaning more village on them. They are actively investigating and raising good points. I also don't see anything that makes me think they poisoned me. I am still keeping an eye on them but I don't think they are my yeet for today.

Spiane - I *think* they're ok. Still struggling to get a good read on them. I plan on going back through the thread at some point today to do post analysis for spiane so I can hopefully provide a better read.

PBC/Vampy - the fruit/vampy/pbc stuff in general is making me be cautious with both pbc and vampy. I hope pbc was telling the truth about being a villager but I just don't have enough evidence to declare with certainty they are village. Same with vampy and 3p. I don't think either one poisoned me though.

Rae - T4C and fruit made me nervous with their comments about not being able to investigate rae. And T4C who we know was village was suspicious of rae. I've seen no evidence that rae poisoned me but I do want to try and find out why T4C was nervous about rae.

apoptosis - I think they are the poisoner. I am happy to provide quotes if needed. D2 they were actively discussing how they thought I was scum. Then conveniently N2 I am poisoned. D3 they don't have much to say at all about me being poisoned until Katie suggests I'm faking. They quickly jump on board with that idea. W!apoptosis would be in a great situation here - they try to frame me as a wolf D2 and then poison me. If I die from the poison, wolves got rid of the mayor quietly without having to try and misyeet me. If I don't, then w!apoptosis can continue to claim I am a wolf because I was faking the poisoning to not be voted out. Then I can be misyeeted, great benefit to the wolves.
scum lean

Edit: changed spacing bc it was hard to read
 
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