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I blocked vampy last night.

Blocked twice and both nights no one dies?

 

[katiemcat]

I blocked vampy last night.

Blocked twice and both nights no one dies?

Damning

 

[soupshark]

I have no brain left to think

 

[_rae_]

@vampyrica, a chance to defend yourself

 

[CeeGee14]

Oh boy…Did you lie to us about your ability, Vampy? Is there no vigilante shot wandering around out there?

 

[CeeGee14]

And not to deter from Vampy, but did PBC ever explain why her action was blocked that one time when Rae never blocked her?

 

[katiemcat]

Oh boy…Did you lie to us about your ability, Vampy? Is there no vigilante shot wandering around out there?

Apologies fellow Serperior lover for doubting your intentions.

I am a witch with no sleep.

 

[katiemcat]

And not to deter from Vampy, but did PBC ever explain why her action was blocked that one time when Rae never blocked her?

They said they don’t know

 

[CeeGee14]

Apologies fellow Serperior lover for doubting your intentions.

I am a witch with no sleep.

Oh yeah, I get it. You should see me when I’m low on sleep. Just a couple minor inconveniences away from committing a felony

 

[soupshark]

Oh yeah, I get it. You should see me when I’m low on sleep. Just a couple minor inconveniences away from committing a felony

Same. Right now I'm in zombie mode tho

 

[_rae_]

And not to deter from Vampy, but did PBC ever explain why her action was blocked that one time when Rae never blocked her?

No I am also curious about this. I got visited by two people last night, a benevolent person, and someone who “lingered too long” and I’m wondering if that was PBC

 

[PrincessButterCup]

No I am also curious about this. I got visited by two people last night, a benevolent person, and someone who “lingered too long” and I’m wondering if that was PBC

One was me. I didn't want to not submit an action so I seerd you. I should have been the benevolent visitor

 

[PrincessButterCup]

And not to deter from Vampy, but did PBC ever explain why her action was blocked that one time when Rae never blocked her?

I did. What I was told aligned with my blocking being a random consequence of pie day so that's my theory

 

[CeeGee14]

One was me. I didn't want to not submit an action so I seerd you. I should have been the benevolent visitor

Really? When you visited me on N3, my message wasn’t exactly comforting. I got a message saying eyes were lingering on me for too long, as if they were seizing me up for competition.

EDIT: Which sounds oddly similar to one of the messages Rae received….

 

[_rae_]

Really? When you visited me on N3, my message wasn’t exactly comforting. I got a message saying eyes were lingering on me for too long, as if they were seizing me up for competition.

EDIT: Which sounds oddly similar to one of the messages Rae received….

That is identical to the message that I got 👀

 

[CeeGee14]

That is identical to the message that I got 👀

So PBC, you weren’t the benevolent visitor. Is this a simple slip-up or a lie to cover up something more sinister?

 

[CeeGee14]

Can W choose not to do a night kill so they can divert suspicion?

 

[katiemcat]

Can W choose not to do a night kill so they can divert suspicion?

I still feel like the last person is scum 3P and they have specific win conditions

 

[PrincessButterCup]

So PBC, you weren’t the benevolent visitor. Is this a simple slip-up or a lie to cover up something more sinister?

I'm a livestock judge. I'm village. I seer role types. I'm benevolent but I am literally evaluating and judging you, per my role name, so I guess it could feel ominous

 

[vampyrica]

I blocked vampy last night.

Blocked twice and both nights no one dies?

yeah i knew you were gonna do that, lucky you i have no ability and wolves chose not to kill. so semi-waste of a block but also person didnt use the vig shot 🙃 so now it’s lost

 

[PrincessButterCup]

So PBC, you weren’t the benevolent visitor. Is this a simple slip-up or a lie to cover up something more sinister?

I think you're being a little aggressive here, CG. Do you have a vested interest in throwing suspicion on me?

 

[CeeGee14]

I still feel like the last person is scum 3P and they have specific win conditions

Hm, good point.

I asked my manator about this last night. Specifically, could a game continue without W if there was a W-aligned 3p. They said there’s never been a 3p that’s specifically aligned with one side since 3p are technically their own faction. So…I’m guessing there’s still one more W out there. Or it could be an entirely new mechanic the mods decided to test out in a noob game cause why not

 

[CeeGee14]

yeah i knew you were gonna do that, lucky you i have no ability and wolves chose not to kill. so semi-waste of a block but also person didnt use the vig shot 🙃 so now it’s lost

Oh, does the vig shot have like an expiration date or something?

EDIT: Not trying to be sarcastic. I’m genuinely curious

 

[PrincessButterCup]

It's possible a scum aligned 3P can't kill without true wolves?

 

[vampyrica]

Oh, does the vig shot have like an expiration date or something?

had to be used the following night or it poofs into the void, but the person i gave it to knows that. in my ability description it literally said it would be explained to the person

 

[vampyrica]

i’m a little disappointed actually ngl

 

[vampyrica]

It's possible a scum aligned 3P can't kill without true wolves?

you mean like we’re stuck in a loop now?

 

[CeeGee14]

had to be used the following night or it poofs into the void, but the person i gave it to knows that. in my ability description it literally said it would be explained to the person

Can you tell us who you gave the vig shot to?

 

[vampyrica]

Can you tell us who you gave the vig shot to?

i am physically unable to. this is the first time i’ve actually been able to give it all game since i was blocked the first time i wanted to use it

 

[vampyrica]

i actually just wanted to give it to myself but i was told i’m not allowed. i cry

 

[CeeGee14]

I think you're being a little aggressive here, CG. Do you have a vested interest in throwing suspicion on me?

I’m copying Katie’s methods since they worked really well at getting me to spill info. Sorry if I came off a little strong.

But I still don’t really get why you got blocked that one night. Maybe it was because of the pies, but that feels a little too…random.

 

[CeeGee14]

@katiemcat Come back! We need you and your interrogation techniques and biting hamster!

 

[vampyrica]

so i’m gonna go out on a limb here…

yeet @_rae_

does this paint me in an absolutely terrible light? yeah i recognize that but i will risk a misyeet for this bc something aint right. wolf blocker would be incredibly convenient to take to end game. you block block block and claim “blocked so and so, no kill, must be wolf!” without actually making a kill yourself to continue to frame people. this has been building for a while and i gotta go with my gut.

EDIT: risk a misyeet of myself bc atleast then we get solid confirmation

@WildZoo @kaydubs

 

[kaydubs]

Day 7 IT’S A LAWLESS LAND NOW Vote Tally

rae (1) - vampy

1/7

Leading: no one
Missing: EVERYONE BUT VAMPY

Deadline: 9pm EDT TOMORROW 8/28 (~23 hours)

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I’m copying Katie’s methods since they worked really well at getting me to spill info. Sorry if I came off a little strong.

But I still don’t really get why you got blocked that one night. Maybe it was because of the pies, but that feels a little too…random.

I was literally in the write up for reference, I highlighted the section that referenced my blocking in this post:

I'm guessing about the pie thing because of what my results said, and also this part of the write up:

I don't know why that seemed sus to you that my blocking could have come out of that mechanism, especially if our known blocker was accounted for last night.

 

[_rae_]

So, most to least sus:

Vampy: reasons I’ve already explained, now trying to yeet me since I got more evidence against her. Plus “someone didn’t use the vigilante shot”? Was there even a vigilante shot?

PBC: poor explanations for blocking and weird messages to me and CG

CG: 3p but just seems confused

 

[_rae_]

so i’m gonna go out on a limb here…

yeet @_rae_

does this paint me in an absolutely terrible light? yeah i recognize that but i will risk a misyeet for this bc something aint right. wolf blocker would be incredibly convenient to take to end game. you block block block and claim “blocked so and so, no kill, must be wolf!” without actually making a kill yourself to continue to frame people. this has been building for a while and i gotta go with my gut.

EDIT: risk a misyeet of myself bc atleast then we get solid confirmation

@WildZoo @kaydubs

This super just looks like I’ve gotten too close to the truth

 

[PrincessButterCup]

Oh my god I don't know why my blocking was so weird to everyone.

We threw pies.

My judging papers that night were covered in sticky pie and I couldn't read them.

I suggest I was blocked as a random result of pie day.

@katiemcat @_rae_ and @CeeGee14 all think this is somehow sus.

I'm going to be away from my phone tomorrow because we're painting the exterior of the house, I really don't want to check back in and see you guys yeeting a freaking village seer because I was blocked two nights ago

 

[PrincessButterCup]

Hm, good point.

I asked my manator about this last night. Specifically, could a game continue without W if there was a W-aligned 3p. They said there’s never been a 3p that’s specifically aligned with one side since 3p are technically their own faction. So…I’m guessing there’s still one more W out there. Or it could be an entirely new mechanic the mods decided to test out in a noob game cause why not

This is not true. 3P can be village aligned, scum aligned, or they can pick their alignment, and there can be chaos players. 3P can also be totally neutral. It's not as one dimensional as you're claiming here.

There could be another wolf hiding in the confirmed village, but it's interesting that one of our self-professed 3P is trying to convince us that 3P can't carry out a scum win condition without the rest of their pack?

 

[CeeGee14]

This is not true. 3P can be village aligned, scum aligned, or they can pick their alignment, and there can be chaos players. 3P can also be totally neutral. It's not as one dimensional as you're claiming here.

There could be another wolf hiding in the confirmed village, but it's interesting that one of our self-professed 3P is trying to convince us that 3P can't carry out a scum win condition without the rest of their pack?

I'm just telling you all what my manator told me. If a 3p can be W or V aligned, why not just make them part of that faction? Why have the whole alignment thing if you're not truly part of the faction but your fate seems tied to that faction? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me about V or W aligned 3p. And what are chaos players?

 

[CeeGee14]

Oh my god I don't know why my blocking was so weird to everyone.

We threw pies.

My judging papers that night were covered in sticky pie and I couldn't read them.

I suggest I was blocked as a random result of pie day.

@katiemcat @_rae_ and @CeeGee14 all think this is somehow sus.

I'm going to be away from my phone tomorrow because we're painting the exterior of the house, I really don't want to check back in and see you guys yeeting a freaking village seer because I was blocked two nights ago

That's because none of us can read between the lines. That's why Apop had to correct us about what their actual abilities are lol.

 

[vampyrica]

This super just looks like I’ve gotten too close to the truth

you can keep telling yourself that, i've laid it all out on the table and literally have no more information to share. do with that what you will

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I'm just telling you all what my manator told me. If a 3p can be W or V aligned, why not just make them part of that faction? Why have the whole alignment thing if you're not truly part of the faction but your fate seems tied to that faction? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me about V or W aligned 3p. And what are chaos players?

It really depends on the mechanics these mods have picked. Lone wolves can be 3P and exist outside of the pack, for example, but still be fully scum, and have some specific win condition like "you must be alive at end game and the game must reach X day", or "you must kill only these specific roles", or whatever. Chaos is just another flavor of 3P.

What's your fate tied to again?

 

[vampyrica]

So, most to least sus:

Vampy: reasons I’ve already explained, now trying to yeet me since I got more evidence against her. Plus “someone didn’t use the vigilante shot”? Was there even a vigilante shot?

PBC: poor explanations for blocking and weird messages to me and CG

CG: 3p but just seems confused

i would quote my mod dm but that's not allowed so you either have to trust that i gave out vig shots, or say i was lying. you can't keep going "but was there even any?" pick a stance: there is or there isn't any vig shots. the fact you pose them as questions again, makes me believe you are a wolf blocker

 

[vampyrica]

Or was it something deeper? Maybe the killers had turned their attention elsewhere, deciding it was wiser to recruit than to destroy, whispering temptations into the ear of a good soul until their loyalty began to bend. Maybe the real danger was not in the knives that flashed in the dark, but in the quiet conversations that reshaped allegiances.​

also...are we gonna ignore this or???

 

[_rae_]

i would quote my mod dm but that's not allowed so you either have to trust that i gave out vig shots, or say i was lying. you can't keep going "but was there even any?" pick a stance: there is or there isn't any vig shots. the fact you pose them as questions again, makes me believe you are a wolf blocker

Fine, then there isn’t, because why wouldn’t you give it to Katie, spiane, or Nicole and if you did why would they choose not to use it?

I have to work early tomorrow and probably won’t have time to vote before EOD.

####yeet vampyrica####

@WildZoo @kaydubs

 

[PrincessButterCup]

also...are we gonna ignore this or???

So potentially one OG wolf AND a convert left?? I didn't go back to read after I skipped to the end for the results, oops.

If we have a conversion it's probably someone who's been vouched for, so that opens the whole field up again.

 

[CeeGee14]

It really depends on the mechanics these mods have picked. Lone wolves can be 3P and exist outside of the pack, for example, but still be fully scum, and have some specific win condition like "you must be alive at end game and the game must reach X day", or "you must kill only these specific roles", or whatever. Chaos is just another flavor of 3P.

What's your fate tied to again?

My fate? I'm neutral, so I can win with either faction. I'm siding with V since we just need to find the last W. My solo win condition has already expired since Fruit kicked the bucket.

 

[CeeGee14]

So potentially one OG wolf AND a convert left?? I didn't go back to read after I skipped to the end for the results, oops.

If we have a conversion it's probably someone who's been vouched for, so that opens the whole field up again.

Damn it! Do we have to go through the whole song and dance of clearing people AGAIN?

 

[CeeGee14]

How do conversions work? Does the approached player need to accept becoming W?