SDSU - Not yet accredited

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...and they won't find out if they are until 2015. SDSU is a great school, so I think the chances they will become accredited are pretty high, but is it worth the risk to start in 2014?
 
...and they won't find out if they are until 2015. SDSU is a great school, so I think the chances they will become accredited are pretty high, but is it worth the risk to start in 2014?

SDSU isn't the only state PT program in CA. With that said, they have plenty of resources to keep them on track for accreditation. They will gain full accreditation when the first class graduates.

On another note, these new PT programs are going to over saturate the market. A big problem looming over our profession.
 
That's a good point about having enough resources as a CA state school
On your other note, I don't really see that as that big of a problem when the Bureau of Labor Statistics predicts a 27% growth in demand between 2006 and 2016.
 
I haven't done real research on this yet, but just in the past several years that I've started considering PT school I've noticed a big drop in job postings, particularly in areas within 1-3 hrs. of a PT school.
 
I can see it being an issue where there are schools around. San Diego and Los Angeles have more than a handful of schools, but at the same time they are huge cities. I'm hoping a school doesn't open in my hometown...
 
I can see it being an issue where there are schools around. San Diego and Los Angeles have more than a handful of schools, but at the same time they are huge cities. I'm hoping a school doesn't open in my hometown...

Look at what happened with OD and now PharmD. Now look at the statistics that the BLS publishes for those professions. They don't really match the actual market. Over-saturation is a huge problem with our profession. More will be discussed when you begin school in your professional practice course. Also, BLS is heavily inflated.
 
@stmca - You need to ensure that SDSU has a 'back-up' plan for its students. As I've learned, universities that are not accredited are required to have agreements with other schools in the event that they are denied accreditation. This agreement permits the failing program to send students to a preselected PT program who is CAPTE approved. Keep in mind that they also review first time pass rates for the NPTE each class year. This means that your PT degree can be thwarted by the pass rates of the students ahead of you. If you get redistributed to another school, make sure it is a school you want to attend.

Anyone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think they do have some schools that they are contracted with, so I'll have to double check on that.


As for market saturation, maybe I'm new and naive, but this is news to me. Where I live in Southern California, there is a serious shortage of PTs, so I thought that was the case everywhere else. My clinic has been short for almost a year now. All the recent DPTs I know have the luxury of multiple choices for their first job. I see a huge saturation in nursing and chiropractors, but not PTs...but again, I could just be naive on this whole subject...or this could be something that's up and coming/in the works.
 
@stmca - You need to ensure that SDSU has a 'back-up' plan for its students. As I've learned, universities that are not accredited are required to have agreements with other schools in the event that they are denied accreditation. This agreement permits the failing program to send students to a preselected PT program who is CAPTE approved. Keep in mind that they also review first time pass rates for the NPTE each class year. This means that your PT degree can be thwarted by the pass rates of the students ahead of you. If you get redistributed to another school, make sure it is a school you want to attend.

Anyone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct, but it's not as simple as another school just giving you your degree. If the school doesn't get accredited, you have to go to the other school and do one to two years there of retaking classes, even if you've finished almost your 3rd year. This isn't free either and you have to pay additional tuition for that school for the time you're there.

A school not getting accredited royally screws the class over. It's extremely rare though.

I would not go to an unaccredited school unless the tuition was extremely low to reflect the lack of accreditation.
 
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I think they do have some schools that they are contracted with, so I'll have to double check on that.


As for market saturation, maybe I'm new and naive, but this is news to me. Where I live in Southern California, there is a serious shortage of PTs, so I thought that was the case everywhere else. My clinic has been short for almost a year now. All the recent DPTs I know have the luxury of multiple choices for their first job. I see a huge saturation in nursing and chiropractors, but not PTs...but again, I could just be naive on this whole subject...or this could be something that's up and coming/in the works.

May I ask if you are already a PT or not? I completed my observation hours in San Diego and have been told there is an oversaturation of PTs not only by Physical Therapy clinics but Physical Therapy Students from Chapman, Univ of St Agustine, and Cal State Northridge in the Los Angeles, Orange, and San Diego Counties. Not so much over saturation in the San Bernardio county and less desirable areas.
 
@myosin What brought you to ECU's program? They aren't a nationally known program. However, they put out some phenomenal PTs. NC is a nice place to live too.
 
@myosin What brought you to ECU's program? They aren't a nationally known program. However, they put out some phenomenal PTs. NC is a nice place to live too.

My choices for schools were purely based on tuition and estimated total cost of living over three years.

When I started doing research for schools, I had almost twenty schools on my application list.

I am applying to MUSC for in state tuition and several other reasons.

ECU has a beautiful campus and is very close to a hospital. The cost of living in the surrounding areas is low too.
 
ECU has a great PT program. It's a bit isolated, but its a good student environment from what I've learned. I live in the Raleigh area, and I'm from Calif myself (UCLA undergrad). NC is so much nicer.
 
ECU has a great PT program. It's a bit isolated, but its a good student environment from what I've learned. I live in the Raleigh area, and I'm from Calif myself (UCLA undergrad). NC is so much nicer.

My goal is to have a maximum of only 50k in total loans by the time I finish PT school. I want to be able to repay it within 24 months of graduating.

It being a great campus is just icing on the cake. I wish more schools followed their model of low tuition and smaller class sizes.
 
I hope that this handy, easy-to-use template will be helpful in all future SDN discussions about job prospects, etc.

...these new [insert any medical profession discussed on the SDN forums] programs are going to over saturate the market. A big problem looming over our profession.

...I don't really see that as that big of a problem when the Bureau of Labor Statistics predicts a [insert relevant BLS stat] growth in demand between [insert year] and [insert year]

Strongly recommended: [Insert comment about the aging population here]

Optional but encouraged: [insert comment about the yet unknown effects of Obamacare on relevant profession here]

[Insert following response or similar (can be modified as needed, but should always include mention of optometry and pharmacy)]:Look at what happened with OD and now PharmD. Now look at the statistics that the BLS publishes for those professions. They don't really match the actual market. Over-saturation is a huge problem with our profession. More will be discussed when you begin school in your professional practice course. Also, BLS is heavily inflated.


Hopefully this will be taken in the spirit is in intended 😀
 
I hope that this handy, easy-to-use template will be helpful in all future SDN discussions about job prospects, etc.





Strongly recommended: [Insert comment about the aging population here]

Optional but encouraged: [insert comment about the yet unknown effects of Obamacare on relevant profession here]




Hopefully this will be taken in the spirit is in intended 😀

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