Secondaries that ask about moving violations...I'm conflicted

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Hi SDN

I know certain secondaries like UCincinnati ask whether you've been found guilty of any moving traffic violations, and if so, to please explain.


When I was 18, I got into my first and only car accident. I was driving straight down a busy road next to a shopping mall, and my sister was in the passenger seat. I was minding my own business doing my thing when all of a sudden a car that was turning left slams into me.

My car spins twice, rocks as if it's about to roll over, and lands crazily tilted on the divider. The other car ricochets off mine, grazes the median ahead of me, and comes to a stop with some damage to its bumper. My sister is screaming "IS THIS THE END? ARE WE GOING TO DIE?" and I am screaming "SHUT UP, [sister's name]!" (yes, I do feel bad that those could have been my last words to her)

I am badly shaken. Figuratively and literally, I am shaking and hyperventilating. Some bystanders who had pulled their cars over rush over and tell me they thought my car was about to roll over into oncoming traffic. This does not help my delayed panic, which is intensifying as the numbness starts to wear off and my brain is beginning to process what happened. Someone had already called the 911, and soon a bunch of cops were there.

Another car pulls over who was driving behind the lady, and it turns out it was her husband who had been following her in a separate car. He goes over to his wife. I don't even speak to or look at them, because I'm furious at her for coming out of nowhere and almost killing my sister and me.


The cops speak to her and speak with each other while a paramedic asks me if I'm hurt and I say no. One of the cops comes over and says, "That lady over there says you ran a red light. Was the light red?" Hysterically and idiotically, I can't remember a thing. I say "I don't remember, I don't think so." He says "I don't care what you think, did you or did you not?" And I say again, "I don't think so." He says "That lady's husband saw you run the red light. Are you or are you not sure?" I'm already freaked the **** out so I admit that I'm not sure, and I get a ticket for running a red light.

I was given a court date (this is in IL if that makes a difference) and I wanted very badly to contest the charge. However, my dad (not a lawyer) told me I had no proof, the lady had a witness, and it would be worse on me if I pled not guilty, made the court go through their motions, and was still found guilty. He said I should just take the fine, so when it came time for my court day, I did.


To this day, I am mad about what happened. The cop took advantage of how freaked out and utterly hysterical I was. He told me he had seen teenagers with "braces wrapped around a light pole" and that I should be more careful. Thanks, dude.


If I were level-headed when he questioned me, I would have sworn up and down that I didn't run the red.


TL;DR Got in an accident and it wasn't my fault. Do I pretend it was my fault anyway on the secondary and act like I learned something for it?

I only ask because I have a very low GPA and I'm already admitting to marijuana use, since I had an honor council hearing my junior year in college. I REALLY don't want to have to admit to anything else, but if I explain what happened, will they just view me as lacking accountability?
 
Someone saw you run a red light. You were so shaken up you couldn't remember what happened. But now you know for certain you didn't run the red light?

You pled guilty in the past, so changing your story now would probably be a bad idea.
 
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Hi SDN

I know certain secondaries like UCincinnati ask whether you've been found guilty of any moving traffic violations, and if so, to please explain.


When I was 18, I got into my first and only car accident. I was driving straight down a busy road next to a shopping mall, and my sister was in the passenger seat. I was minding my own business doing my thing when all of a sudden a car that was turning left slams into me.

My car spins twice, rocks as if it's about to roll over, and lands crazily tilted on the divider. The other car ricochets off mine, grazes the median ahead of me, and comes to a stop with some damage to its bumper. My sister is screaming "IS THIS THE END? ARE WE GOING TO DIE?" and I am screaming "SHUT UP, [sister's name]!" (yes, I do feel bad that those could have been my last words to her)

I am badly shaken. Figuratively and literally, I am shaking and hyperventilating. Some bystanders who had pulled their cars over rush over and tell me they thought my car was about to roll over into oncoming traffic. This does not help my delayed panic, which is intensifying as the numbness starts to wear off and my brain is beginning to process what happened. Someone had already called the 911, and soon a bunch of cops were there.

Another car pulls over who was driving behind the lady, and it turns out it was her husband who had been following her in a separate car. He goes over to his wife. I don't even speak to or look at them, because I'm furious at her for coming out of nowhere and almost killing my sister and me.


The cops speak to her and speak with each other while a paramedic asks me if I'm hurt and I say no. One of the cops comes over and says, "That lady over there says you ran a red light. Was the light red?" Hysterically and idiotically, I can't remember a thing. I say "I don't remember, I don't think so." He says "I don't care what you think, did you or did you not?" And I say again, "I don't think so." He says "That lady's husband saw you run the red light. Are you or are you not sure?" I'm already freaked the **** out so I admit that I'm not sure, and I get a ticket for running a red light.

I was given a court date (this is in IL if that makes a difference) and I wanted very badly to contest the charge. However, my dad (not a lawyer) told me I had no proof, the lady had a witness, and it would be worse on me if I pled not guilty, made the court go through their motions, and was still found guilty. He said I should just take the fine, so when it came time for my court day, I did.


To this day, I am mad about what happened. The cop took advantage of how freaked out and utterly hysterical I was. He told me he had seen teenagers with "braces wrapped around a light pole" and that I should be more careful. Thanks, dude.


If I were level-headed when he questioned me, I would have sworn up and down that I didn't run the red.


TL;DR Got in an accident and it wasn't my fault. Do I pretend it was my fault anyway on the secondary and act like I learned something for it?

I only ask because I have a very low GPA and I'm already admitting to marijuana use, since I had an honor council hearing my junior year in college. I REALLY don't want to have to admit to anything else, but if I explain what happened, will they just view me as lacking accountability?

the weed IA and this traffic accident should have minimal impact on your overall chances. however, "very low" GPA is a bigger concern than either.

how's your MCAT?
 
Hi SDN

I know certain secondaries like UCincinnati ask whether you've been found guilty of any moving traffic violations, and if so, to please explain.


When I was 18, I got into my first and only car accident. I was driving straight down a busy road next to a shopping mall, and my sister was in the passenger seat. I was minding my own business doing my thing when all of a sudden a car that was turning left slams into me.

My car spins twice, rocks as if it's about to roll over, and lands crazily tilted on the divider. The other car ricochets off mine, grazes the median ahead of me, and comes to a stop with some damage to its bumper. My sister is screaming "IS THIS THE END? ARE WE GOING TO DIE?" and I am screaming "SHUT UP, [sister's name]!" (yes, I do feel bad that those could have been my last words to her)

I am badly shaken. Figuratively and literally, I am shaking and hyperventilating. Some bystanders who had pulled their cars over rush over and tell me they thought my car was about to roll over into oncoming traffic. This does not help my delayed panic, which is intensifying as the numbness starts to wear off and my brain is beginning to process what happened. Someone had already called the 911, and soon a bunch of cops were there.

Another car pulls over who was driving behind the lady, and it turns out it was her husband who had been following her in a separate car. He goes over to his wife. I don't even speak to or look at them, because I'm furious at her for coming out of nowhere and almost killing my sister and me.


The cops speak to her and speak with each other while a paramedic asks me if I'm hurt and I say no. One of the cops comes over and says, "That lady over there says you ran a red light. Was the light red?" Hysterically and idiotically, I can't remember a thing. I say "I don't remember, I don't think so." He says "I don't care what you think, did you or did you not?" And I say again, "I don't think so." He says "That lady's husband saw you run the red light. Are you or are you not sure?" I'm already freaked the **** out so I admit that I'm not sure, and I get a ticket for running a red light.

I was given a court date (this is in IL if that makes a difference) and I wanted very badly to contest the charge. However, my dad (not a lawyer) told me I had no proof, the lady had a witness, and it would be worse on me if I pled not guilty, made the court go through their motions, and was still found guilty. He said I should just take the fine, so when it came time for my court day, I did.


To this day, I am mad about what happened. The cop took advantage of how freaked out and utterly hysterical I was. He told me he had seen teenagers with "braces wrapped around a light pole" and that I should be more careful. Thanks, dude.


If I were level-headed when he questioned me, I would have sworn up and down that I didn't run the red.


TL;DR Got in an accident and it wasn't my fault. Do I pretend it was my fault anyway on the secondary and act like I learned something for it?

I only ask because I have a very low GPA and I'm already admitting to marijuana use, since I had an honor council hearing my junior year in college. I REALLY don't want to have to admit to anything else, but if I explain what happened, will they just view me as lacking accountability?

Just tell the truth, move on to the next question, and keep your secondary essays shorter than War and Peace.
 
Someone saw you run a red light. You were so shaken up you couldn't remember what happened. But now you know for certain you didn't run the red light?

You pled guilty in the past, so changing your story now would probably be a bad idea.

It wasn't until he started yelling at me that I started doubting myself. There is a difference between not being sure at the time and not being sure when you're being yelled at by a policeman after narrowly avoiding a vehicle rollover with your little sister sitting next to you. The vast majority of you probably have not had this happen, but if you have, I hope you can imagine that a non-confrontational person doesn't hold up very well.

Either way, I suppose you're right, it wouldn't strengthen my case.


As for the low GPA: it's a 3.2 cumulative/3.0 science. I have a 34 MCAT, 4.0 post-bacc (taking a few classes as a graduate non-degree, not in a program) have been working for almost a year at an ER (first volunteering, now a technician) with some great LORs from the attendings/former professors.


Don't get me wrong, I know my chances are next to nothing, and I'm mostly aiming at DO. That doesn't mean I'm not going to at least try for MD. My hope is that by applying widely and early enough it catches the attention of someone somewhere. If all goes well this semester it should be 3.1 sGPA/3.3 cGPA by early August, at which point I will submit to more schools--I'm submitting to a few now mostly to get verified (plus DO, because it's certainly more realistic in that arena)


Anyway, with such slim chances, I'm worried stuff like the marijuana admission and this will push me over the line into the realm of not in a million years
 
If all you got was a single red light ticket and it was 3years ago, probably no. Isn't your city notorious for handing out red light tickets like candy? I'd be more worried about the marijuana business.

Good luck, we have similar stats and I got an interview at UC this year! (I had 3 speeding tickets I had to put on my secondary)
 
If all you got was a single red light ticket and it was 3years ago, probably no. Isn't your city notorious for handing out red light tickets like candy? I'd be more worried about the marijuana business.

Good luck, we have similar stats and I got an interview at UC this year! (I had 3 speeding tickets I had to put on my secondary)


Hahahaha. Good point. They probably won't know anything about the grade deflation at the school I went to, but at least Chicago has a rep for ticketing your face off
 
Hahahaha. Good point. They probably won't know anything about the grade deflation at the school I went to, but at least Chicago has a rep for ticketing your face off

And at least for the UC one I kept it short and simple.

XX/XXXX - City/State - received speeding ticket for 55mph in a 45mph. Plead guilty.


PS I was really worried I got a red light ticket on my way home from my Rush interview since I saw the lights flash but I think it got the guy in the next lane over.
 
And at least for the UC one I kept it short and simple.

XX/XXXX - City/State - received speeding ticket for 55mph in a 45mph. Plead guilty.


PS I was really worried I got a red light ticket on my way home from my Rush interview since I saw the lights flash but I think it got the guy in the next lane over.

Similar stats? Rush interview? Stop giving me hope!! I use SDN for 2 reasons: 1) to punish myself for my undergraduate screw-ups by actually posting stats like this for SDN consumption and 2) to lower my hopes, such that I will be pleasantly surprised with just about anything that happens

Not sure how terrible it would be being pulled over after an interview. I suppose it depends on how the interview went 😏
 
I'm guessing that as long as it wasn't a DUI, it would be treated like any other speeding ticket. Just saw you were in a car accident, plead guilty, and that was that. Happens to a lot of people, though some are lucky enough to do traffic school or get court supervision. I had to do traffic school twice, though I learned my lesson after the last time I got caught speeding and got a Valentine One. 🙂 This should be a non-issue.

The weed charge might be a bigger deal actually, though not a deal breaker. You have a very high MCAT, so I'm guessing the SDN Gods would recommend that you volunteer your time to speak to youth against drug use since it can have a negative imapact if you're applying to medical school.

Good luck, and just don't blow the accident out of proportion. Anyone can have traffic citations.
 
God I love the state of Illinois and it's suburban cops/state highway police.. didn't know 30 over counts as a misdemeanor until I got a ticket in bum f*** nowhere for going exactly one over the required for a misdemeanor (surprisingly, my dad wasn't even mad at me) and got lucky with a court supervision that can get it wiped off my record.
 
I got pulled over for going 63 in a 55. At night. On a highway. The only thing that got me off was wearing my EMT student badge. The cop said "Oh, an EMT student? You gonna save my life some day?" and I responded, "uhhhhrrrrgk" because he was cute as hell and my brain likes to do stuff like that to me
 
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