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So a quandary has arisen at my clinic.
We have a one-year wonder GMO who functions as a SME at my base. He's sort of a mascot for his squadron, and is generally popular with his squadron, patients, and the line. For the first year or so that he was on base, we had no problems.
Over the last couple of months though, he's created at least three medical incidents that have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up. All three involve him making solo attempts at medical and sometimes surgical procedures that he has little to no training in and is not credentialed for. In one such incident the patient suffered what is likely to be permanent but luckily not disabling nerve damage.
When I confronted him about these things and the danger of what he was doing, he shrugged and blew me off. When I brought the matter up to the SGH, he was appropriately angry and immediately called the GMO for an explanation. The GMO apologized and confessed to his unfamiliarity with the procedures, then said that he thought that he was credentialled to attempt them but hadn't actually checked.
Today I found out that he took a crack at another one, and the patient is now in the hospital due to a post-operative infection. After screaming expletives at him for a good five minutes and nearly punching his face in, he again shrugged it off and tried to rationalize what he did. The SGH also chewed on him again, but has not done anything to his privileges. I have pulled him from the clinic schedule; however since the GMO was doing these procedures off the grid (i.e., outside of the clinic) in the first place, this is hardly going to prevent him from doing more experiments. In fact, the last time I saw him he was happily tossing back a few at the bar, laughing with one of the guys who is now injured because of him.
I've got a very bad feeling that things are spiralling out of control with this guy, and the next time he tries something it will be downrange where there's no one to protect patients from him. I've already attempted the conventional avenues; now what?
This does need to go up the medical chain. His credentials need to be pulled.
That would seem to be part of the problem: per the OP, the GMO wasn't credentialed to be doing these procedures in the first place. It is hard to take away what was never given.
The Medical Director needs to get involved and review the incidents in question.
If it is true that the GMO was told not to do certain procedures while under the authority of the clinic, and he did them anyway, then this is a disciplinary matter. If he was doing the procedures in a setting outside the clinic, and he has more than one chain of command, then it is up to the responsible chain of command to issue limits on his acticvities and to seek guidance from appropriate professionals if they are not properly equipped to interpret the facts of the case.
I mean all of his priviledges. He should not be allowed to perform patient care, period. There is also the possibility of UCMJ action for dereliction of duty.
As none of us posting have all of the facts, I am not ready to agree with that recommendation. It is not quite clear that any specific limits were established as to what the GMO in question was told, was privileged to do or was told to do or not do, before or after these incidents occurred.
This of course exacerbates the problem with GMOs in general, as young officers see their more senior counterparts giving the finger to the hard work of gaining and maintaining clinical knowledge and then still being rewarded with promotions and cush administrative positions. It is difficult to keep from being corrupted in such an environment or to take patient care seriously when there is no punishment for neglecting it completely.
Good on you for having the courage to protect our patients.
This can be a very long process and could get acrimonious. Take a minute and create some notes for yourself (dates, events, involved parties and when you notified various people). So, six months from now, you can remain clear on the details and not get "caught in a lie" (that was, in fact, a trivial honest mistake). Save any relevant email. Keep any notes on patient encounters you have with someone he saw precise and sterile (nothing editorial).
Finally, if, at the end of the day it is swept under the rug, you will face a difficult decision. I can't presume to advise you how to proceed at that point.
If he loses his privileges, he will have to report that on every application he fills out for the rest of his career in and out of the .mil. It is a severe and meaningful punishment.
If the services gave a damn about quality or protecting the patient in the first place, there would be no GMOs. The canard of quality assurance, and worse, the use of adverse privileging action on an individual who should not and if had a choice likely would not be working independently as a "one-year wonder" is utterly condemnable.
The military medical services are to be condemned twice for this kind of thing: first for having GMOs at all and second, for creating the fraud of quality assurance when they subvert it's very foundations by withholding physician training.
This kind of thing has gone on forever. It is outright condemnable, as are the leaders and senior medical people who promote or acquiesce to it.
Exactly. I recommend caution to avoid an unnecessary witch-hunt.
Its not that simple. Having a basic grasp of your limitations isn't something you magically figure out as an R2.
you weren't credentialed for during internship, so why is it ok as a GMO?
I agree that we should protect GMOs (particularly deployed GMOs) who make mistakes.
But, some conduct goes beyond that. The guy was warned and kept misbehaving. To me, that suggests an underlying problem that is better addressed sooner than later. You don't get a free pass.
This is totally different than the GMO who misdiagnoses acute leukemia as msk back pain or that sort of thing. This is someone deliberately going beyond his scope of care and justifying it by saying he thought he was credentialed. I don't care if you are an MS1 or a 25 year attending. That is unacceptable conduct.
I'm not sure how I feel about GMOs but it is fair for there to be some standard of conduct.
Yes, I certainly want to avoid an unnecessary witch hunt. Further news is that when justifying his decision to proceed with the operation, the GMO referenced three board-certified physicians who he claimed had shown him how to do similar procedures, so he thought he was capable of acting independently. All of these physicians PCS'd to different bases over the summer but are friendly with both myself and the SGH.
So it was easy enough to contact them to verify the story, and all reported that while they had done minor procedures with the GMO (mole removals, etc.), neither had done anything approaching the scope of the GMO's procedure. Only one had done the actual procedure in the past couple of years, the other two routinely referred it out to a specialist because of the difficulty and risks of complications. They were all quite irritated that their names had been invoked in this manner.
Unfortunately for the GMO, things are starting to pile up.
So it was easy enough to contact them to verify the story, and all reported that while they had done minor procedures with the GMO (mole removals, etc.), neither had done anything approaching the scope of the GMO's procedure. Only one had done the actual procedure in the past couple of years, the other two routinely referred it out to a specialist because of the difficulty and risks of complications. They were all quite irritated that their names had been invoked in this manner.
Slightly tangential, but how exactly does one get credentialed to do a procedure? What is the credentialing body? Is it possible to become credentialed in procedures that are not part of your residency training, or to become credentialed in individual procedures despite not having completed residency training?
Slightly tangential, but how exactly does one get credentialed to do a procedure? What is the credentialing body? Is it possible to become credentialed in procedures that are not part of your residency training, or to become credentialed in individual procedures despite not having completed residency training?
As I recall somewhere in this forum is a thread where a GMO amputated someone's leg on a deployment successfully. Should he lose his privileges?
I'm just going to go out on a limb here, but should this really be discussed in a forum such as this?
I realize it's a bit anonymous, but I would bet any lawyer worth his money would be able to figure out who/when/where this discussion is about. (granted they'd have to find it first) Doesn't sound like lawyers are likely here anyway
Anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there
Generally, one gets privileges granted by the facility. A standing committee is responsible for reviewing requests for privileges. (The military uses centralized credentialing.) Usually one has to present documentation of general training in a specialty--a letter of board-eligibility from one's PD or a board certification certificate. Then one has to submit case lists of procedures you have done. One also submits a list of procedures one wishes to do (although in practice, most facilities have a pre-written list based on the specialty, and one can add procedures to that list if they wish.) One can be queried as to the experience one has with unusual procedures, if privileges to do those are requested. And a facility may decline to grant some requests for any reason, but usually it is because the facility perceives the procedure to be one for which they cannot provide adequate support, such as anesthesia or perfusion or some other service.
Getting privileges beyond the scope of a specialty may require having done documented training in that procedure and submitting a case list to support your experience claim. Fellowship experience is one type of supplementary formal training.
So I guess my question is, is there any formal process I can go through to get credentialed in an individual procedure short of going through a full residency/fellowship program? For example suppose I am a GMO and I see a lot ofMarines who want vasectomies. I am near an FM clinic that performs vasectomies where I can both observe and first assist the procedure, and I can by some magic actually find enough time to go there when they have vasectomy clinic. How do I get credentialed to do this procedure without completing a residency?
So I guess my question is, is there any formal process I can go through to get credentialed in an individual procedure short of going through a full residency/fellowship program? For example suppose I am a GMO and I see a lot ofMarines who want vasectomies. I am near an FM clinic that performs vasectomies where I can both observe and first assist the procedure, and I can by some magic actually find enough time to go there when they have vasectomy clinic. How do I get credentialed to do this procedure without completing a residency?
So a quandary has arisen at my clinic.
multiple times on different customers, an outpatient surgical procedure, in an otherwise healthy (probably male-dominated) squadron . . .that can only mean one procedure! (I just crossed and locked my legs).
Kudos to you for having the courage to do the right thing. Hold the superior officer accountable, threaten to go higher if you really wanna get involved. Maybe even threaten to contact a local media outlet. I had an old CO that used to say, "If you feel right about something, start a shtstorm so thick that people wont be able to see the light of day."
(echo what backrow said above, might wanna take this PM with the handful of guys that are giving you good advice). Please include me, even though I'm a lowly medical student, I could use the entertainment (not to mention an educating lesson, seriously).
multiple times on different customers, an outpatient surgical procedure, in an otherwise healthy (probably male-dominated) squadron . . .that can only mean one procedure! (I just crossed and locked my legs).
Kudos to you for having the courage to do the right thing. Hold the superior officer accountable, threaten to go higher if you really wanna get involved. Maybe even threaten to contact a local media outlet. I had an old CO that used to say, "If you feel right about something, start a shtstorm so thick that people wont be able to see the light of day."
(echo what backrow said above, might wanna take this PM with the handful of guys that are giving you good advice). Please include me, even though I'm a lowly medical student, I could use the entertainment (not to mention an educating lesson, seriously).