Self Hating DO prevalence at your school?

[astronautkid]

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For those of you currently in school, what percentage would you say in your class are self-hating DO’s? I feel like theres a higher number than reported . If you look at ALOT (not all but a good number) of insta profiles of DO students/doctors, they try to hide the DO/ name of the DO school from there profile/pics, and just say Dr. X, without putting the initials. In some ways, I feel like there ends up being a good number of DO grads with a looming insecurity over their shoulders thats swept under the rug/not talked about. Thoughts on this? I think its a good consideration for a student who’s on the fence about DO. Granted theres plenty of people who dont give a ****, but it is a common trend I think needs to be pointed out.

 

[Adventurer753]

lol what are you a in high school.... lol

 

[astronautkid]

lol what are you a in high school.... lol

No but I think it’s an underlying psychological thing you notice just from observing that. any student entering DO needs to consider that if they think they’re concerned about it now. Mental health takes a bigger toll than you think

 

[_Rod_of_Asclepius_]

Here we go again...

 

[AMEHigh]

Who is putting Dr anyone on their social media pages?! I immediately roll my eyes at this. Kids these days!

 

[WhereMyLiberalsAt]

I feel like theres a higher number than reported .

What in the actual %#$! are you talking about?!

Seriously though, what school are you attending next year? I need to know; I can’t risk the chance of you being in my cohort!

Edit: “Higher than reported”? I mean, I was surprised to see such a low percentage in the CDC’s “DO self-hating” annual report, but are expecting false reporting?!

 

[_Rod_of_Asclepius_]

My dentist has Dr. Smith on his badge as opposed to DMD / DDS and I'm glad he does because just like MD vs DO we all know which dental degree is superior. Oh wait...

 

[DOgdad23]

 

[Osminog]

Some people enter the medical profession primarily for prestige and social status. This isn't a good thing, but it's the reality of the situation. The DO degree isn't as prestigious as an MD degree; in many parts of the country, most regular people don't even know what a DO degree is. Therefore, some DO students and physicians who care a lot about prestige might not openly advertise themselves as DOs. That doesn't mean that they "hate" themselves or "hate" their osteopathic training. It just means they want to keep up a certain appearance.

Personally, I think this sort of prestige-oriented behavior is kind of silly, but we all have different priorities in our professional lives. I'm not so sure why there has to be a thread devoted to this topic.

 

[Mad Jack]

For those of you currently in school, what percentage would you say in your class are self-hating DO’s? I feel like theres a higher number than reported . If you look at ALOT (not all but a good number) of insta profiles of DO students/doctors, they try to hide the DO/ name of the DO school from there profile/pics, and just say Dr. X, without putting the initials. In some ways, I feel like there ends up being a good number of DO grads with a looming insecurity over their shoulders thats swept under the rug/not talked about. Thoughts on this? I think its a good consideration for a student who’s on the fence about DO. Granted theres plenty of people who dont give a ****, but it is a common trend I think needs to be pointed out.

My badge just says "Mad Jack, Resident Physician" and not by my choice. Basically all the doctors I work with, MD or DO simply go by Dr. Lastnamr and tend to not list their degree on badges. Name plates for desks and rooms tend to list degrees. In the real world, 99% of people don't care. When I show up to drop a consult, the primary team is just like, "thank god psych is here" not "oh no it's just a bone wizard."

 

[Cuongoff]

Orrrrr they just don't want to go through the hassle of having to explain what a DO is every patient visit. I don't hate my degree- without it I wouldn't be a physician. If I had a choice- I would prefer Dr. X over X D.O. on white coats/scrubs

 

[Spectreman]

My badge just says "Mad Jack, Resident Physician" and not by my choice. Basically all the doctors I work with, MD or DO simply go by Dr. Lastnamr and tend to not list their degree on badges. Name plates for desks and rooms tend to list degrees. In the real world, 99% of people don't care. When I show up to drop a consult, the primary team is just like, "thank god psych is here" not "oh no it's just a bone wizard."

And then you do some cranial and the patient sends you a Christmas card for the rest of your life, right? Cause that’s what my OPP professors promise will happen.

 

[Mad Jack]

And then you do some cranial and the patient sends you a Christmas card for the rest of your life, right? Cause that’s what my OPP professors promise will happen.

More like I give some haldol and get death threats lol. I'd love to throw some cranial enthusiasts into the inpatient ward so they can fail utterly to work any magic.

 

[Neopolymath]

Orrrrr they just don't want to go through the hassle of having to explain what a DO is every patient visit. I don't hate my degree- without it I wouldn't be a physician. If I had a choice- I would prefer Dr. X over X D.O. on white coats/scrubs

Bingo! Aside from being a closet, backdoor MD (lol) I have no additional desire to explain to someone what I do. Thank the AOA for making that even worse! Why would I want to be asked this question by patients who can't even figure out who the physician is in the room because they think all women are nurses and anesthesiologists don't go to med school like surgeons???

 

[QueenJames]

I don't hate being a DO student at all. I'm proud of getting into medical school and making it through day by day.

I think we learn MORE in the same 2 year span than our MD friends but they also get to do RESEARCH and REAL **** that actually helps your application in the long run compared to us touching each others' spinous processes and ischial tuberosities.

So is that fact that we learn "more" actually helpful?

Depends.

Gonna do PC and be a OMM specialist and use OMT as apart of your "toolbox" (LOL... pre-med bull**** everybody says to get into school)? Then yeah... you do learn something useful and that "extra" learning helped you.

Wanna be a psychiatrist or enter something competitive that requires you to do research and publish a lot? Then boo-hoo... take your "extra" learning and shove it. It hinders you quite a bit.

You CAN DO research on the side like them but your DO school will make it hard to do so unless you are at a program that has faculty doing dope stuff worth pursuing... or some stupid study on how OMM can cure depression or whatever.

Everybody I know that did research did it by pursuing old stuff they did in undergrad during the break between 1st and 2nd year.

Just wait and see.

What I DO HATE is the bull**** advising, the lackluster clinical rotation sites we have, the fact that you pretty much better be preparing for two sets of boards (DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR SCHOOL), and that many DO schools receive funding for placing your naive ass into primary care when you may or may not want to do that and MAKE IT VERY HARD for you to pursue other fields and leave you out in the cold when it comes to advising.

So... if you know you wanna be a PHYSICIAN and are cool with PC... then DO is a guaranteed slot for minimal 200-250K salary with 3 day weekends and all of the HTN, DM, and foot stuff you can muster.

But if you can put up with all of the bull**** and lackluster crap your DO program puts you through... then go for it.

Otherwise, you are better off trying to pursue MD.

Or do PA/NP/Midlevel route.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

More like I give some haldol and get death threats lol. I'd love to throw some cranial enthusiasts into the inpatient ward so they can fail utterly to work any magic.

That sentence is completely appropriate even without the second half. I am sure the cranial true believers would thrive in the psych ward and become Lord of the Flies so to speak.

 

[allantois]

Who is putting Dr anyone on their social media pages?! I immediately roll my eyes at this. Kids these days!

Routinely see ppl putting that they are a Doctor of Pharmacy/Law/ Physical Therapy candidate 😕

 

[Mad Jack]

Routinely see ppl putting that they are a Doctor of Pharmacy/Law/ Physical Therapy candidate 😕

This is what happens when we let Medical Student (Accepted) be a thing in the world

Doctor of Medicine (Candidate)

Attending Physician (Hopeful)

Chief of Medicine (Aspiring)

 

[DOgdad23]

Routinely see ppl putting that they are a Doctor of Pharmacy/Law/ Physical Therapy candidate 😕

Pretty sure they mean people putting Dr. First Last, DO as their name on their personal social media. When I see this, it drives me insane. No one actually cares.

 

[allantois]

This is what happens when we let Medical Student (Accepted) be a thing in the world

Doctor of Medicine (Candidate)

Attending Physician (Hopeful)

Chief of Medicine (Aspiring)

And best of all:

Future Pediatric Neuroendovascular surgeon

...from pre-meds

 

[Mad Jack]

Pretty sure they mean people putting Dr. First Last, DO as their name on their personal social media. When I see this, it drives me insane. No one actually cares.

It is appropriate if and only if you are using your social media profile as marketing and PR. For a personal profile it's epic tier douchebaggery

 

[gyngyn]

Pretty sure they mean people putting Dr. First Last, DO as their name on their personal social media. When I see this, it drives me insane. No one actually cares.

It is redundant to use both a prefix (Dr.) and a suffix (MD, DO, PhD, DDS...) for the same title.

Closing.

 

[Angus Avagadro]

Always wore a name pin on my coat with my D.O behind my name. I was asked many times to explain what DO means and was happy to take a moment to explain. A chance to educate. When I would finish, they often responded, "Wow.... that's almost like being a Doctor!" LOL... If that bothers you, you got in the wrong school.