Sending Bank Statement As Part of App ?

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I didn't find any threads pertaining to this.

My parents have high salaries as well as plenty of cash in the bank. Should I send proof of income & bank statements as part of my application? The point is to prove that I have solid financial ability for med school.

Will this look favorable to the adcoms? Or will it be seen as a cocky gesture?
 
I think pretty much every med school has some statement on their website about admitting regardless of ability to pay (that is they don't look at your $$$ when accepting/rejecting).

Unless you're a non-US citizen (and thus not eligible for federal loans) I don't think they care.
 
DrYoda said:
I think pretty much every med school has some statement on their website about admitting regardless of ability to pay (that is they don't look at your $$$ when accepting/rejecting).
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You're right; but is it possible that it's one of those "unspoken" things that will actually give you an edge? Especially in this economy when schools have to worry about students not being able to get loans and such.
 
peterish said:
You're right; but is it possible that it's one of those "unspoken" things that will actually give you an edge? Especially in this economy when schools have to worry about students not being able to get loans and such.
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Being wealthy isn't going to give you an edge. The schools will get their money regardless of whether it's from your parents or from loans.
 
Maybe you should phrase it in terms of, "My parents would love to contribute to a med school that I am attending."
 
I think it's a justified move in these tough economic times. Besides if its not important the office staff will just put it aside. Go for it.
 
peterish said:
I didn't find any threads pertaining to this.

My parents have high salaries as well as plenty of cash in the bank. Should I send proof of income & bank statements as part of my application? The point is to prove that I have solid financial ability for med school.

Will this look favorable to the adcoms? Or will it be seen as a cocky gesture?
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Sorry OP, nothing personal, I'm just having a 'fun with pictures' day...
 
drizzt3117 said:
Maybe you should phrase it in terms of, "My parents would love to contribute to a med school that I am attending."
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That sounds wholly unethical to me.
 
peterish said:
I didn't find any threads pertaining to this.

My parents have high salaries as well as plenty of cash in the bank. Should I send proof of income & bank statements as part of my application? The point is to prove that I have solid financial ability for med school.

Will this look favorable to the adcoms? Or will it be seen as a cocky gesture?
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well it worked for that kid who is now a first year at UF :laugh::laugh:...his parents called in the political contacts and they pulled strings

Paying to play...aka the American Way:meanie:
 
Instead of sending bank statements, I would just fedex 10-15 grand in unmarked, nonsequential twenties.
 
the only thing that would help is if they sent a big fat donation in with your application.
 
what a creative trolling idea.

should i send a picture of me like this to show that i'm not rich and would contribute to diversity? 🙄

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If the statement showed you're flat broke, maybe you could help prove disadvantaged status. So if you need somewhere to get rid of all that money ...
 
ksmi117 said:
Why does that one smiley not think it's funny enough to laugh???
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its just that that particular smiley laughs that way... even they have brains 😛 lol... i noticed that yesterday and was wondering if somebody else noticed it..lol
 
Revilla said:
That sounds wholly unethical to me.
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Not really. You don't think the family of contributors get special treatment? LizzyM admitted that there are some applicants who are not included in committee review due to extenuating circumstances. I imagine a building or scholarship with the applicant's surname would be considered an extenuating circumstance.

As for adcoms freaking out about an applicant's ability to pay, [1] it's against policy like some have already stated [2] I don't think that people who are absolutely destitute without a plan will be applying to medical school in the first place. Your money, unless it goes from your bank to the school's bank, will not mean much.
 
koko_eats said:
Not really. You don't think the family of contributors get special treatment? LizzyM admitted that there are some applicants who are not included in committee review due to extenuating circumstances. I imagine a building or scholarship with the applicant's surname would be considered an extenuating circumstance.
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That's what I mean. The family of contributors get special treatment, so sending your parent's bank statement with your application is unethical. You're essentially saying my parents have money so please let me in. What do you mean "not really"? How is that not unethical?
 
Revilla said:
That's what I mean. The family of contributors get special treatment, so sending your parent's bank statement with your application is unethical. You're essentially saying my parents have money so please let me in. What do you mean "not really"? How is that not unethical?
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I thought you were saying that drizzt's suggestion that the OP's family donate to the school would be unethical. That would not be unethical since donations and special treatment occur all the time and you'd be hard pressed to find a school with a policy that doesn't allow that kind of thing.

Consider the patient who writes a large check to the chief of radiation oncology at UCSF to be seen in 48 hours instead of next month. Is that unethical if the money is used to fund treatment for low income patients who can't pay the hospital for their treatment? Even if it gave the donator an advantage?

Sending a bank statement is useless--not unethical.
 
Pinkertinkle said:
I think it's a justified move in these tough economic times. Besides if its not important the office staff will just put it aside. Go for it.
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OP, sending in your bank statement is flat out stupid. With government loans, all students are able to pay tuition, so money is not a problem. Pinker is screwing with you.
 
koko_eats said:
I thought you were saying that drizzt's suggestion that the OP's family donate to the school would be unethical. That would not be unethical since donations and special treatment occur all the time and you'd be hard pressed to find a school with a policy that doesn't allow that kind of thing.
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The whole thing is unethical, including drizzt's suggestion (which seemed like a joke). Just because it's done doesn't mean it's not unethical. If the OP sends his med school application with a bank statement, that's silly. But if there's any kind of hint as to his parent's willingness to donate to the medical school, THAT'S what's unethical. It's a bribe. Surely you're not saying that bribes are ethical?

Consider the patient who writes a large check to the chief of radiation oncology at UCSF to be seen in 48 hours instead of next month. Is that unethical if the money is used to fund treatment for low income patients who can't pay the hospital for their treatment? Even if it gave the donator an advantage?
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We can debate the ethics of the situation you cite some other time because that's not what this thread is about. This is about a med school applicant wanting to submit his parent's bank statement to the schools he's applying to. I realize the OP's purpose was to show he can afford med school, but posts from other members -- giving the OP a hard time -- suggest his parents would be willing to contribute to the school if they let him in. If the bank statement is taken by adcoms the way posters here have implied, it's unethical, at least to me. But that's just me.
 
Revilla said:
The whole thing is unethical, including drizzt's suggestion (which seemed like a joke). Just because it's done doesn't mean it's not unethical. If the OP sends his med school application with a bank statement, that's silly. But if there's any kind of hint as to his parent's willingness to donate to the medical school, THAT'S what's unethical. It's a bribe. Surely you're not saying that bribes are ethical?
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I feel that we can debate this for quite a while. A bribe is a bribe is a bribe. Sure, I agree with that. Which is why when my true UCSF anecdote is a distasteful but legal and legitimate way of doing business, so too is the anecdote posed by drizzt.

I'm sure that drizzt did mean it as a joke and I agree that nobody is saying that the OP should send in the bank statement. That'd be pointless and laughable. There is, after all, a difference between a well-to-do family and a family able to donate large sums to a school.

To be unethical, I would argue that the admissions process has to be a zero sum game. The acceptance of the rich kid must mean the rejection of someone else. This is not necessarily the case since schools are flexible with their number of matriculants and thus would not be unethical.
 
koko_eats said:
I feel that we can debate this for quite a while. A bribe is a bribe is a bribe. Sure, I agree with that. Which is why when my true UCSF anecdote is a distasteful but legal and legitimate way of doing business, so too is the anecdote posed by drizzt.

I'm sure that drizzt did mean it as a joke and I agree that nobody is saying that the OP should send in the bank statement. That'd be pointless and laughable. There is, after all, a difference between a well-to-do family and a family able to donate large sums to a school.

To be unethical, I would argue that the admissions process has to be a zero sum game. The acceptance of the rich kid must mean the rejection of someone else. This is not necessarily the case since schools are flexible with their number of matriculants and thus would not be unethical.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I see it as every acceptance affecting someone else's (most likely from the waitlist), who was qualified to attend, but didn't get to because lack of seats have to be divided among the number of qualified applicants.

But I do agree that we're on the same page regarding sending the bank statement.
 
Revilla said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I see it as every acceptance affecting someone else's (most likely from the waitlist), who was qualified to attend, but didn't get to because lack of seats have to be divided among the number of qualified applicants.

But I do agree that we're on the same page regarding sending the bank statement.
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Yeah, in the end it comes down to a difference of semantics. I think we agree on the definition of "tool", which is what the OP will be if he sends the statement.
 
If your parents were rich enough for this to matter, you would know that sending your bank statement isn't how people with $ buy a seat in a med school for their child.

No, you don't have to buy a building--you can buy a seat with far less money. But if you aren't "in the know" about this already...nobody is going to come knocking to sell mommy and daddy a seat for you.

You are way underestimating the % of applicants' whose parents are able to fully pay for their tuition (especially if push comes to shove). Second generation physicians and kids of lawyers aren't all that uncommon in the applicant pool.
 
Thanks guys & gals. I appreciate everyone's input, and probably will not be sending a bank statement.
 
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