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Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd
 
art0734 said:
Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd

You gotta be kidding me. Do you know how long some PhD candidates go to school for? Some of them never make as much as pharmacists. If you want money, extend your schooling by 4 to 6 years and become the best damn surgeon on the planet or win the lottery. No seriously, you cannot go into a medical profession for the money because if you do not feel passionate towards your job and do it wrong, the money will go into lawsuits anyway....so if you like pharmacy, do it. My mum makes 44 an hour. And she has a masters in pharmacy but she loves her job. So....become a doctor, business man or invent something....
 
For the love of God don't go into any health career if your only in it for the money. Just like Psychoanalyzed said you have a passion for it, and it seems you don't.
 
Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd

I can't give you a reason at all. Please quit now while you can. Healthcare doesn't need anymore pharmacists that hide behind counters and avoid patients because all they care about is getting through the day and collecting their paycheck.

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art0734 said:
Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd
nope i can give you no reasons to continue

in fact
dont
 
art0734 said:
Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd
I'm going to assume from your post that you are fairly young and don't have a lot of (or maybe no)job experience. Also, I don't know what your family background, friends, etc. are like but there really aren't a lot of people running around in this world that make 100K the moment they walk out of school with a degree, or even after many years of work. You need to get a more realistic view of what starting compensation is going to be vs. years of school and experience.

And, by all means, please don't go into pharmacy for the money. I can tell you from experience, you need to do something that you will love - something that makes you happy to go to work each day. I totally agree that it's nice to not have money worries, but money can't buy you happiness every day.
 
art0734 said:
Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd

Quit now and go into med school. Make your pile.
 
art0734 said:
Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd

First off, I'm excited to go to pharmacy school for what I'm going to get out of it and give back to my community when I'm out there working. Secondly, if you are only looking for a career that will bring you money and not fulfillment, you are going to be very unhappy down the line. I think you might not have enough life experience to know this by now, but money is not everything!
 
Yes. As someone who already has gone to college for 7 years and only makes ~$30K, an extra 4 years for a 3-fold increase is sound. It is alright to be initially attracted to a profession for the money. But unless you are interested in the job, you will burn out fast. If you want to make fast money, go become a plumber. Seriously..... many of them top 100K a year.
 
Only $50 per hour?

Wow. I guess you cant please them all. I think making 100,000 per year is a great salary, considering I dont know a single person who makes that much, and most of my friends have been in their careers for 3+ years (Engineers, Teachers, Salesman), some of whom have no chance of ever coming close to that salary!

I think 100,000 per year is a very respectable salary, and if you dont think you can live with "only" 100K per year, you really need to take a hard look at your spending and figure out what is going on. My parents raised a 4 person household on less than that total per year, and we never needed (or wanted) for anything.

I think getting into a career based on the potential salary is career and personal suicide. You need to pick something that makes you happy, makes you tick. Something that you will want to get out of bed for, leave you family everyday and spend 30+ years doing. I think you need to take a hard look at your choice to pursue pharmacy, and rethink your motivations for life.
 
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I agree with everyone....money does not bring hapiness. I know many doctors who make a lot of money....but they regret that they to sacrifice so much. My cousins are both doctors...surgeons......but they work all the time and are very tired and they haven't been doing it very long.
Don't choose any profession just for the salary....you will truly regret it later in your life. You need to decide what is more important......hapiness or money!!!!!!!!!!
Also like everyone said...100K per year is very good. Many people don't see that much even after they are retiring. I grew up in a family where the total income didn't exceed 60K and we have a very stable and happy life. I have never regret anything or miss anything or wanted more. I grew up in a very happy home and that is all i need.

But if money is all you want.....just go become a spine surgeon....you will bank. Plus if you don't enjoy something....i don't know how you are going to be able to perform 14 hr long surgeries......money comes with price!!!!!
 
Yes, as a matter of fact, it is worth going through all that schooling for 50 bucks an hour. I am a formor programmer and more than a half of students in my orgranic chemistry class are career changers. All of us talk a lot about how bad our former career was/ how unhappy we were due to the working condition and salary. When I was just out of college, I had the same attitudes as you have toward the career decision; money matters the most. However, seriously, you have to like the job; otherwise, no matter how much you make, you won't be happy but hate to go to work everyday. That's very sad and you will end up changing it again. Try to shadow what pharmacists do for a while and see if you would like it. However, I am not saying that money is less important, but money and satisfaction need a balance. Money shouldn't be the sole factor when selecting career. By the way, to tell you the truth, I wouldn't change my career to pharmacy if pharmacists make 50k or 60k. Going back to your question, theseday, it is extremely difficult to make 100k a year in any career other than healthcare industry; of course, there is always an exception that few people in any career make very high salary. However, staying 4 years in any carrer, I can guarantee you that you won't make 100k. Most people with higher degree than BS/BA also max out below 100k before they retire. So it is worth while to go through the schooling in that you will make 100k right after graduation; the money is guaranted.
 
I'm also going to have to side with everyone else that posted. $50 an hour is not bad. In my opinion pharmacy is the least time consuming way to make 100k a year. Only 4 additional years of school, or 2 if you do a 6 year integrated program. As far as I know there is no field out there where you are pretty much guaranteed to make that much money in that little time. On top of that most pharmacists don't have to work that much overtime (or at least that is my understanding, i could be wrong) unless they own an independent pharmacy. What more could you ask for?

If you just want money be a doctor. You will be more stressed out and have much less free time but good neuro-surgeons start at 7 figures, minus insurance, after their insanely long residency.

At the same time, if you don't enjoy it you still won't be happy. I thought this wasn't true, but now as an engineering masters I know I'll make good money, but sometimes I think I went into a specialization I don't have a passion for and I feel myself burning out. My grades are down and I'm not interested in class, and after investing so much time into school I'm really hoping my job will be more enjoyable. This worrying definitely is overshadowing any happiness I feel for my soon to improve financial situation.
 
I also agree with everyone else. $50 an hours is pretty awesome right out of school. Maybe you should take a year and find a job with what education you have and see how life is on that salary. I have been a research scientist for 3 years and have pretty much topped the pay scale for an academic researcher with a BS at 35K. And honestly, that's totaly livable even in an area with a high cost of living. I personally feel that a 3 fold pay increase for 4 years of school isnt that bad.
That being said, I also would not suggest going in to any health profession for the money, it's really not worth it. If your heart isnt in it, you'll get burnt out fast and end up regretting it later. Everyone keeps suggesting you become a surgeon, yes they have fantastic salaries but they work their butts off and with that feild your talking 4 years of schooling and at least 2-4 years of residency... to me that's not worth it. I'd rather have a flexible job where I still have time for a life and family.
 
All i can say is WOW.. it would be a good idea to look into EVERYTHING if you are just after the money.. that is everything but the healthcare system. If you haven't already been to a doctor who does half ass work or dealt with a pharmacist who has all the book smarts but no customer service skills...you need to meet these people SOON.. because this is a prime example of wanting the money.. they hate their jobs.. but ohh the money is awesome! who suffers? Seriously... of course not your pocket full of cash.

I work in mail order and i've come to realize it is either the retirement home for old grouchy pharmacists or else it is for the young pharmacist just getting out of school who seriously hates what he does, but LOVES the money. I guess i can say at least they have a place to go now.. when before they were shacking up at walgreens hiding behind the counter.

Find something you are passionate about.. and in the healthcare system there NEEDS to be passion.. this isnt all about the money in your pocket.. its about someone who NEEDS YOU.

sorry for being bitchy.. i just see too much of this crap and it pisses me off.. especially at my work..
 
I have a friend who's went from high school straight into the accelerated UOP program just to make lots of money as a pharmacist.

Even though he'll be a pharmacist when he's like 23, he's told me that he believes he made the wrong decision in becoming a pharmacist for the money. So you should save your $32,000 a year tuition money, and use it for something else.

There are plenty of jobs out there that can actually make more money than a pharmacist without so much the schooling for four years. I would recommend that you don't apply for pharm school.
 
Hahaha, $50/hr isn't a lot. You're a pretty good comedian maybe you should go work for hollywood they make loads of dough. In fact, they make so much money it just comes flying out of their butt hole.
 
patmcd said:
For the love of God don't go into any health career if your only in it for the money. Just like Psychoanalyzed said you have a passion for it, and it seems you don't.

The "passion" requirement is so overrated. I know more people who went into medicine (doctors, nurses, and yes even pharmacists), not because they had a passion for it, but only because that's what their parents wanted them to do because of the prestige, money, and job security these types of jobs offer. Does this mean that they are bad at what they do? Hardly.

What you do with your education after you get out of school is much more important. I would rather be treated by an "unpassionate" professional who did his/her job well than by a "passionate" person who doesn't. Passion and competence do not automatically go hand in hand.

Besides, when you think about it, we need people to do jobs soley because of the money. If everyone only did what they were passionate about, there would be a hell of a lot of essential jobs that would never get filled. I know of no one who had a lifelong dream to become a septic tank pumper or dead-animal-on-the-road scraper.
 
imperial frog said:
The "passion" requirement is so overrated.

That's very true.
One of my teachers once pointed out to me that some people don't have a passion for anything.
 
imperial frog said:
The "passion" requirement is so overrated. I know more people who went into medicine (doctors, nurses, and yes even pharmacists), not because they had a passion for it, but only because that's what their parents wanted them to do because of the prestige, money, and job security these types of jobs offer. Does this mean that they are bad at what they do? Hardly.

What you do with your education after you get out of school is much more important. I would rather be treated by an "unpassionate" professional who did his/her job well than by a "passionate" person who doesn't. Passion and competence do not automatically go hand in hand.

Besides, when you think about it, we need people to do jobs soley because of the money. If everyone only did what they were passionate about, there would be a hell of a lot of essential jobs that would never get filled. I know of no one who had a lifelong dream to become a septic tank pumper or dead-animal-on-the-road scraper.

When people say that you really have to be passionate about medicine or pharmacy, etc. I don't think that they are automatically equating passion with competence. It more has to do with the fact that certain health care professions take a ton of hard work and dedication in order to complete education/schooling. It's much more difficult to be able to stay motivated throughout medical or pharmacy school when you really have no drive to be there other than the fact that you want to make money. And while money can be a huge motivator for some, there are other jobs out there that make the same salary with less work. It's just so much easier to quit when you're not passionate about what you're doing. Additionally, pharmacy can be considered the misunderstood & under-respected "underdog" when compared to other health care professions. You really need people who are passionate about pharmacy in order to change people's perceptions about what the practice of pharmacy entails.

And of course we need people to do jobs they're not passionate about... (ie: septic tank pumper, garbage disposal), but they didnt accumulate $100k in debt and study their asses off in order to practice those professions either.
 
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:laugh: I think this isa thread any one would like enter pharmacy or other healcare profession should read this one,
Pharmacy is not just money, you got to have enjoy doing day in day out for next 30 , 40 years, somthing you want to do after getting out of bed,
And above all, pharmacy is not easy, pharmacology is harder than combination of biochem, immunology, genetics , molecular combine. Actuaaly phamacology is a combinations of all of these plus physiology, and you need to know all the drugs how they are interact on you body,
You have to have ability to learn these stuff, even medical students are afraid of phamacology.
If you just love money, beome a plumber as somone mention above or trash diposal, they make very good money with minimum school.
This is the same problem whith people get in nursing for money, after few years some nurses burn out, not like what they do , stress, on top of that that bought big houses , lots of loan to pay. hate what they do at work
this is contagious because they make their cowworkers stress too
BUT our nation is capitalism, individualism, money dominate many thing in our life, so it happen daily


kelli said:
When people say that you really have to be passionate about medicine or pharmacy, etc. I don't think that they are automatically equating passion with competence. It more has to do with the fact that certain health care professions take a ton of hard work and dedication in order to complete education/schooling. It's much more difficult to be able to stay motivated throughout medical or pharmacy school when you really have no drive to be there other than the fact that you want to make money. And while money can be a huge motivator for some, there are other jobs out there that make the same salary with less work. It's just so much easier to quit when you're not passionate about what you're doing. Additionally, pharmacy can be considered the misunderstood & under-respected "underdog" when compared to other health care professions. You really need people who are passionate about pharmacy in order to change people's perceptions about what the practice of pharmacy entails.

And of course we need people to do jobs they're not passionate about... (ie: septic tank pumper, garbage disposal), but they didnt accumulate $100k in debt and study their asses off in order to practice those professions either.
 
imperial frong said:
The "passion" requirement is overrated.
Very true. Ok, my passion is to be a video game tester because I really love that. I also really love music and maybe I also love to be a teacher. But come on people, you have to be serious also. The "do what you like and not for the money" and "what makes you happy" is easier said than done. Simply, doing what I like would not be that beneficial to me or my family. Yes, I have to sacrifice some happiness but think about it. If I pursue my passion of being a video game tester, I'll be happy. Now try raising a family getting paid at 40k a year. Oh sure, I'm happy, but first I don't even know if I would get a job for this and also worrying about bills, where to live, etc. will take away any happiness I had for work. Second, the pride factor also comes in and a lot of us are prideful. Let's say I wanted to become a teacher and pursue that career. I would work a lot (yes, my friends who are teachers work a lot) and the Principal would order me around and I make less than him but then I know I could have gotten a more prestigious job and capable of it. How can this make me happy? A lot of people would LOVE to become doctors, pharmacists, etc, but why don't they? Because they don't feel they are capable to do the hard requirements it takes. So here I am knowing i could totally do this and a principal who has less education than me orders me around and gives me a hard time while I make less than him? My doctor friend was in this situation and simply could not take it despite his love for teaching and had to go back to being a doctor. Also, I also, my significant other would probably have to work a lot too in order to pay bills and stuff. And as for my music passion, do you guys really think that a lot of us can make it out there and become successful? NO. Simple fact is most of what we have "passion" for is pretty much worthless in pay, all the fun jobs or what we like to do isn't that high paying. Also, the world looks down on you and judges you by how much you make. Yes, it is freaken sad but it is true. So money does play a huge factor. I know that the majority of my classmates WOULD NOT do pharmacy if it paid 50-60k a year. Sure, passion is helpful and all but in the end, you need to live your life too. Your job is just your job. Yes, I'll admit sometimes I hate pharmacy as anything, but it is not going to keep me from not doing my job and the money keeps me there. I am also happy to be making 100k when I graduate. Also, most people hate their job at some point. It's just human nature. We would rather not work. Who likes to work? I don't care if you love it or not, if you had a chance to take the day off or work, most would not work.

P.S. For the original poster, $50/hr is a lot. I do not even know of many jobs making more than this. What are you thinking about? Winning the lottery? And if you think med-school is more beneficial...LOL...let me tell you something. My friend says it's not even WORTH it for his 200k salary. However, he can't change now. Simply can't. He can't go back and work something he likes and only make 1/4 of it. So think about it. 4 years of pharm school isn't what you would face in med school. And neurosurgeon? HAHA. You know how many years MINIMUM of residency you have to do for GENERAL SURGERY? How about 7. That's the MINIMUM which few achieve. Why do you think most neurosurgeons (not that many out there) are in their mid 40's when they're done with school. Well, if you want to 45 and have 7 figure salary (which you probably wont if you're just out) and drive a...ahem...mercedes convertible, be my guest. I can tell you I'll drive it when I'm half your age relaxing.
 
BelowTheMean said:
Very true. Ok, my passion is to be a video game tester because I really love that. I also really love music and maybe I also love to be a teacher. But come on people, you have to be serious also. The "do what you like and not for the money" and "what makes you happy" is easier said than done. Simply, doing what I like would not be that beneficial to me or my family. Yes, I have to sacrifice some happiness but think about it. If I pursue my passion of being a video game tester, I'll be happy. Now try raising a family getting paid at 40k a year. Oh sure, I'm happy, but first I don't even know if I would get a job for this and also worrying about bills, where to live, etc. will take away any happiness I had for work. Second, the pride factor also comes in and a lot of us are prideful. Let's say I wanted to become a teacher and pursue that career. I would work a lot (yes, my friends who are teachers work a lot) and the Principal would order me around and I make less than him but then I know I could have gotten a more prestigious job and capable of it. How can this make me happy? A lot of people would LOVE to become doctors, pharmacists, etc, but why don't they? Because they don't feel they are capable to do the hard requirements it takes. So here I am knowing i could totally do this and a principal who has less education than me orders me around and gives me a hard time while I make less than him? My doctor friend was in this situation and simply could not take it despite his love for teaching and had to go back to being a doctor. Also, I also, my significant other would probably have to work a lot too in order to pay bills and stuff. And as for my music passion, do you guys really think that a lot of us can make it out there and become successful? NO. Simple fact is most of what we have "passion" for is pretty much worthless in pay, all the fun jobs or what we like to do isn't that high paying. Also, the world looks down on you and judges you by how much you make. Yes, it is freaken sad but it is true. So money does play a huge factor. I know that the majority of my classmates WOULD NOT do pharmacy if it paid 50-60k a year. Sure, passion is helpful and all but in the end, you need to live your life too. Your job is just your job. Yes, I'll admit sometimes I hate pharmacy as anything, but it is not going to keep me from not doing my job and the money keeps me there. I am also happy to be making 100k when I graduate. Also, most people hate their job at some point. It's just human nature. We would rather not work. Who likes to work? I don't care if you love it or not, if you had a chance to take the day off or work, most would not work.

P.S. For the original poster, $50/hr is a lot. I do not even know of many jobs making more than this. What are you thinking about? Winning the lottery? And if you think med-school is more beneficial...LOL...let me tell you something. My friend says it's not even WORTH it for his 200k salary. However, he can't change now. Simply can't. He can't go back and work something he likes and only make 1/4 of it. So think about it. 4 years of pharm school isn't what you would face in med school. And neurosurgeon? HAHA. You know how many years MINIMUM of residency you have to do for GENERAL SURGERY? How about 7. That's the MINIMUM which few achieve. Why do you think most neurosurgeons (not that many out there) are in their mid 40's when they're done with school. Well, if you want to 45 and have 7 figure salary (which you probably wont if you're just out) and drive a...ahem...mercedes convertible, be my guest. I can tell you I'll drive it when I'm half your age relaxing.

well said. 👍
 
art0734 said:
Do you really think becoming a pharmacist is worth going threw all that schooling to find out you only make around 50 bucks an hour. My particular interest for this position was for the money and now im starting to think that the money is not at all what i expected. Can someone give me a reason to still continue please? im really confuesd

Hey Art, I'm not going to attack you since you have been antagonized enough, but it is true that you should at least enjoy something about your job other than the pay. I do think that after 4 years of school, earning $100k still at a relatively young age is a great reward. Not to mention that since pharmacists are in such high demand, they have amazing job stability. And the demand is nationwide so you could pretty much take your pick on location.
The other awesome thing about pharmacy is that it has so many different facets. I think you should try researching the field a little more to see if you can't find anything that really appeals to you. If consulting with patients about drugs isn't your forte, you could look into researching, drug manufacturing, drug testing, advertising, legislation, etc.
Good luck with your decision!
 
Wow pharmacists make $50/hour? I thought it was only like $40.
 
PharmacyJan24 said:
Only $50 per hour?

Wow. I guess you cant please them all. I think making 100,000 per year is a great salary, considering I dont know a single person who makes that much, and most of my friends have been in their careers for 3+ years (Engineers, Teachers, Salesman), some of whom have no chance of ever coming close to that salary!

I think 100,000 per year is a very respectable salary, and if you dont think you can live with "only" 100K per year, you really need to take a hard look at your spending and figure out what is going on. My parents raised a 4 person household on less than that total per year, and we never needed (or wanted) for anything.

I think getting into a career based on the potential salary is career and personal suicide. You need to pick something that makes you happy, makes you tick. Something that you will want to get out of bed for, leave you family everyday and spend 30+ years doing. I think you need to take a hard look at your choice to pursue pharmacy, and rethink your motivations for life.

Amen to that!
 
Money is important, no doubt. For the majority of people, earning a bachelors degree is considered a significant accomplishment, and to follow that up by enrolling into a rigourous program (a la PharmD) deserves appropriate compensation for the considerable amount of time and effort spent acquiring that designation.

If you're looking into money alone, then there are certainly other options available to you, pharmacy is your long way to a great salary, whereas you could have opted to go into business, dealing with securities, stocks, bonds and all that jazz. It's highly stressful, but if you're good at it, you can earn quite a bit more money than a typical retail pharmacist.

I'm not going to blast you for pursuing a path of riches, it's important if you desire to live a certain lifestyle, support a family in all their endeavors, or simply live with the peace of mind that you're financially secure.

Good luck with your future career, whichever it may be! 🙂
 
DoctorCoke said:
If you're looking into money alone, then there are certainly other options available to you, pharmacy is your long way to a great salary, whereas you could have opted to go into business, dealing with securities, stocks, bonds and all that jazz. It's highly stressful, but if you're good at it, you can earn quite a bit more money than a typical retail pharmacist.

The big thing to consider here is that the higher salary that you could earn in business, securities, stocks, etc. is not even remotely guaranteed. Yeah the potential has a much bigger upside, but the average business manager or stock broker is still going to only be in the 50-75k range with minimal job security.
 
imperial frog said:
The big thing to consider here is that the higher salary that you could earn in business, securities, stocks, etc. is not even remotely guaranteed. Yeah the potential has a much bigger upside, but the average business manager or stock broker is still going to only be in the 50-75k range with minimal job security.


Not quite. I am not suggesting he/she make a living by delving into the stockmarket as an entreprenuer. I am referring to a career within a securities firm, in which I personally know a few individuals who have taken-up this line of work, all of which have started at or above 100K+.

It's highly stressful, but the money is great. 50-75K doesn't sound like the work opportunity I am speaking of, that's closer in line to an accountant (of who I also know personally). Securities is big money.
 
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DoctorCoke said:
Not quite. I am not suggesting he/she make a living by delving into the stockmarket as an entreprenuer. I am referring to a career within a securities firm, in which I personally know a few individuals who have taken-up this line of work, all of which have started at or above 100K+.

It's highly stressful, but the money is great. 50-75K doesn't sound like the work opportunity I am speaking of, that's closer in line to an accountant (of who I also know personally). Securities is big money.

Note that I said AVERAGE business major. I never said that there aren't business/finance jobs out there that pay 100k+. The reality of it though is that the average salary for these jobs are in the 50-75k range if even that high, so telling someone that they would have better luck making money in business is a little disingenuous. The truth of the matter is that the average business major will make much less, and the average stockbroker who is not in a largish city with a big client base won't be much better off.

Do a salary search for these types of positions and see what the average salary is. Yeah a person can do better, but that isn't the typical scenario given the numbers of people trying to get those elusive high-paying jobs.
 
My initial post mentioned a very specific career within the broad category of available disciplines a business major has at their disposal.

Take note that I didn't say, "head into IT, you'll make great money" or "become an accountant, you'll earn 100K+ easy". I merely suggested that the OP look into securities/finance if they want to make a lot of money. This advice comes from real life experience, not some internet job site (most of which aren't even worth the web real-estate they occupy).

Ofcourse a finance position could earn less than 100K, just as a pharmacist can earn less than 100K, nothing is guaranteed. What you get out of your job is usually equal to how much you're willing to put in.

In other words, there are many jobs out there which pay more than a pharmacist, I was simply making a suggestion to the OP, that if earning power is what they're primarily interested in (or their source of motivation), then there are many other options.
 
Ah...I took the comment "go into business, dealing with securities, stocks, bonds and all that jazz" as multiple suggestions with business being one of them.
 
Yeah, that was kinda vague on my part, apologies for the miscommunication. 😉
 
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