SES disadvantaged on pdf application

[artist27]

When I click "print application" to view it as a pdf, there is nothing marked under SES disadvantaged. This is despite the fact that my parents are service workers, our income was consistently below 50,000 for a family of 6, and we were on food stamps. My dad did however receive his bachelors degree. Is this why I am not considered SES disadvantaged?

The occupations listed for my parents are "retail sales worker" and "other teacher or instructor."

I guess it doesn't matter either way, I was just curious as to what make one SES disadvantaged.

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[PygmyPuff]

Yep, it's the bachelors. I believe the SES autodesignation on the app only takes education and occupation into account and not any of the other information from that section.


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[LizzyM]

check this out. It might help you understand the process from the AAMC point of view.

https://www.aamc.org/download/330166/data/seseffectivepractices.pdf

 

[artist27]

check this out. It might help you understand the process from the AAMC point of view.

https://www.aamc.org/download/330166/data/seseffectivepractices.pdf

So according to the table on page 11, I think my father would be at EO-2 and my mother at EO-1 or am I reading it incorrectly?

 

[bluegrass belle]

I'm also interested, OP. I'm a non-trad applying next cycle. My mom got her bachelors this year (she's 57). I grew up with a family of 3 that made less than 24k every year - and also received food stamps. My dad only has a high school diploma and will be considered EO-1, and my mom an EO-2.

 

[LizzyM]

The status of the family is based on the highest education achieved by any one parent. EO-1 is, essentially, indicative of an applicant who is first generation college student.

 

[PygmyPuff]

I'm also interested, OP. I'm a non-trad applying next cycle. My mom got her bachelors this year (she's 57). I grew up with a family of 3 that made less than 24k every year - and also received food stamps. My dad only has a high school diploma and will be considered EO-1, and my mom an EO-2.

If it were me, I would put what education level my mom had when I graduated from high school. It's meant to be a reflection of the circumstances you had in childhood and saying your mom has a bachelors just doesn't represent your childhood.

And kudos to your mom! That's so awesome.

 

[LizzyM]

If it were me, I would put what education level my mom had when I graduated from high school. It's meant to be a reflection of the circumstances you had in childhood and saying your mom has a bachelors just doesn't represent your childhood.

And kudos to your mom! That's so awesome.

Lying on the application is never a good idea. The section on your parents is supposed to reflect the present day -- not what you had growing up although it ends up being used that way. You might not believe it but you always run the risk of having your application viewed by someone who knows your parent. Stranger things have happened.

 

[LizzyM]

@LizzyM, applying disadvantaged is an important part of my story. My mother is still unemployed, and my parents live in a trailer and are on food stamps. My dad works a job that he makes ~$20k at. Do you still not consider this disadvantaged? Also, my mother completed her bachelors after I completed mine. Does this matter at all? I feel like it takes something away from my "why medicine" if I can't apply as disadvantaged. It's the main reason I want to become a physician. What are your thoughts?

@PygmyPuff I'm one proud daughter. She started this journey at 52. She wanted to change her circumstances, so I encouraged her to do it. Filled out her FAFSA and helped with her application! Funny how that worked out. I didn't have anyone that could walk me through that stuff when applying. Haha! 😛

So you list your mom's name, degree, school, and under profession you list unemployed or whatever. You list your dad and his education and his profession.

There is a check box if you received gov't assistance in childhood (food stamps, etc), there are some other check boxes related to disadvantage and there is a check box for disadvantaged itself with space for a short essay. You can state there that your mom earned her bachelors at age 50-whatever and that you grew up in poverty, etc. Even if you end up classified at E0-2, you can self-identify as disadvantaged and you can write your PS about "why medicine" which draws on your childhood experience.

 

[bluegrass belle]

Thanks for clarifying! 🙂

 

[PygmyPuff]

@LizzyM, applying disadvantaged is an important part of my story. My mother is still unemployed, and my parents live in a trailer and are on food stamps. My dad works a job that he makes ~$20k at. Do you still not consider this disadvantaged? Also, my mother completed her bachelors after I completed mine. Does this matter at all? I feel like it takes something away from my "why medicine" if I can't apply as disadvantaged. It's the main reason I want to become a physician. What are your thoughts?

@PygmyPuff I'm one proud daughter. She started this journey at 52. She wanted to change her circumstances, so I encouraged her to do it. Filled out her FAFSA and helped with her application! Funny how that worked out. I didn't have anyone that could walk me through that stuff when applying. Haha! 😛

Whoops. I didn't intend for it to be a lie, I honestly figured they cared because they wanted to know about your childhood and that not putting the degree would be representative of that. Regardless of what the autodesignation is, you can self designate as disadvantaged. If you feel strongly about your disadvantaged status then you should check that box and use the space allowed to talk about it.


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[fball22]

The status of the family is based on the highest education achieved by any one parent. EO-1 is, essentially, indicative of an applicant who is first generation college student.

I put that my father got an associates degree (found out later he never actually did...) and was unemployed at the time. My mother completed her bachelors and is self employed as a music teacher.

I was classified EO-1. Any explanation?

 

[artist27]

I put that my father got an associates degree (found out later he never actually did...) and was unemployed at the time. My mother completed her bachelors and is self employed as a music teacher.

I was classified EO-1. Any explanation?

Do you remember if it classified you as EO-1 before you submitted it?

 

[fball22]

Do you remember if it classified you as EO-1 before you submitted it?

I will check when I get to my computer. I know for sure my verified application says EO-1, I'm pretty sure I have a PDF saved of right when I submitted on my computer. I applied last cycle.

 

[LizzyM]

I put that my father got an associates degree (found out later he never actually did...) and was unemployed at the time. My mother completed her bachelors and is self employed as a music teacher.

I was classified EO-1. Any explanation?

That appears to be an error. A mother with a bachelor's degree should get you to at least EO-2.

 

[artist27]

I will check when I get to my computer. I know for sure my verified application says EO-1, I'm pretty sure I have a PDF saved of right when I submitted on my computer. I applied last cycle.

Have you gotten the chance to check?

 

[fball22]

Have you gotten the chance to check?

So the PDF I have from 4 minutes before I submitted it is blank under SES disadvantaged. Than my verified app PDF from a week later says SES disadvantaged: Yes, EO1

 

[drmantistobbogan]

I was curious about this. The PDF of my AMCAS app says "SES Disadvantaged." I didn't click the box for it since I felt any hardships were reflected in my PS and didn't warrant another essay. Is this based on the income and information I entered for my parents? Does this even have any effect on my application?

 

[artist27]

I was curious about this. The PDF of my AMCAS app says "SES Disadvantaged." I didn't click the box for it since I felt any hardships were reflected in my PS and didn't warrant another essay. Is this based on the income and information I entered for my parents? Does this even have any effect on my application?

Yes it is based on that and you can see the link that LizzyM posted above. It just gives your app context.

Btw, has your app been verified or does it say that before you've been verified?

 

[drmantistobbogan]

Yes it is based on that and you can see the link that LizzyM posted above. It just gives your app context.

Btw, has your app been verified or does it say that before you've been verified?

Thanks. I was verified on Monday and that is when I noticed it. But I have a PDF of my app before it was verified so I'll double check tomorrow.