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Animal Midwife said:
There's always a chance genny has yeet avoidance, but I'd be livid at mods because that's too much for this tiny a roster.
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*disregard- repeat post of above. Came back to my computer and it was still up so I assumed I hadn't sent it*

Village has had a JOAT and WZ claim. So I am not sure how many PR's wolves would need to even that out. That is a worry of mine too. They could've had extra kill, but I think not bc they could've used it and ended the game.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
To recycle from paws- this feels slimy on a blatant joke (and not even an original one at that)
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No I meant "oh god" as in "oh god would wolf!Bob actually say that to wolf!genny on the open thread"

It's not a point in favor of the genny/Bob pairing, it's a point against
 
Animal Midwife said:
Do you mean genny voting for April?
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Yes and the discussion that followed about April manufacturing reads. And her staying on that vote iirc (haven't gotten to the final tally yet). I know bussing isn't totally out of genny's wolf range, but that situation didn't seem to call for it.
 
Animal Midwife said:
I'm personally taking this one cycle at a time because I have room to talk about it again tomorrow, but the only pack I can make without genny would mean some very nasty stuff happened and my trust in at least one person would be shattered.
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Get ready for some shattering!

If you think it’s me and Bob, can we do Bob first?
 
Animal Midwife said:
The problem is I'm still undecided between Bob and April.
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When you say things like this it sets off my paranoia. I feel like the Zenge attack is more clearing for Dubz than you.

I don’t understand how you could put me and April in a pack. That’s not how I treat a pack member D1, and if you don’t realize that, it makes me wonder what’s going on with you.
 
genny said:
When you say things like this it sets off my paranoia. I feel like the Zenge attack is more clearing for Dubz than you.

I don’t understand how you could put me and April in a pack. That’s not how I treat a pack member D1, and if you don’t realize that, it makes me wonder what’s going on with you.
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I'm trying to consider all angles without running into this blindly.

To think I can't be cleared from the Zenge attack is disappointing because I've never lied about who I wouldn't kill N1.

I don't know what to do with things because your POE seems impossible unless April went full Stagg. So that in connection with an April/dubz pack seemly grossly unlikely means you're one of the wolves.
 
Just got out of classes but have to run to April's appointment where there's no cell service, I'll try to catch up once I'm back
 
Melchizedek said:
@genny I'm waiting.
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@genny you never answered this after being asked twice. Did you decide it was easier to NK poor mel, than it was to answer his question?

And speaking of mel, he thought he was good at reading me and had me as village. True, you can only put so much into dead villagers reads that haven't found a wolf. But this question reminded me.
 
genny said:
When you say things like this it sets off my paranoia. I feel like the Zenge attack is more clearing for Dubz than you.

I don’t understand how you could put me and April in a pack. That’s not how I treat a pack member D1, and if you don’t realize that, it makes me wonder what’s going on with you.
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WIFOM. I find it hard to read anything on what you say. Are you making valid points on AM (or april or me, but in this instance AM)? Or are you conceding your yeet and trying to throw people off your packmate's trail??
 
Animal Midwife said:
To think I can't be cleared from the Zenge attack is disappointing because I've never lied about who I wouldn't kill N1.
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I was the first to suggest you wouldn't NK zenge on N1 twice in a row. And that occurred to me bc I knew I wouldn't do that to zenge twice in a row.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
@genny you never answered this after being asked twice. Did you decide it was easier to NK poor mel, than it was to answer his question?

And speaking of mel, he thought he was good at reading me and had me as village. True, you can only put so much into dead villagers reads that haven't found a wolf. But this question reminded me.
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Meh. I felt like it. So I voted there.
 
WildZoo said:
I'm still getting those Genny Way pings as I'm rereading d1. Like even the way she talked about April there feels more likely village than wolf genny to me.

:bang:
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How do you feel about her after D1?
 
WildZoo said:
Yes and the discussion that followed about April manufacturing reads. And her staying on that vote iirc (haven't gotten to the final tally yet). I know bussing isn't totally out of genny's wolf range, but that situation didn't seem to call for it.
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Yup she did stay on me until EOD when I was in danger of being yeeted and had to self prez
 
MsP (1) - AM
Mel (1) - dubz
Zenge (1) - MsP
dubz (1) - Paws
April (1) - genny
AM (1) - April
Cray (1) - Bob
Mel () -
MsP (2) - AM, dubz
AM () -
Bob (1) - April
April (2) - genny, Mel
Zenge () -
Bob (2) - April, MsP
genny (1) - Cray
Bob (1) - MsP
MsP (3) - AM, dubz, April

10/10
dubz (1) - Mel
Mel (1) - dubz
Cray (1) - AM
Zenge (1) - Bob
Mel (2) - dubz, April
Cray () -
Zenge () -
dubz (2) - Mel, Bob
Paws (1) - Zenge
AM (1) - Paws
Paws (2) - Zenge, AM
Mel (3) - dubz, April, genny
Mel (2) - April, genny
Paws (3) - Zenge, AM, dubz
AM () -
dubz (3) - Mel, Bob, Paws
dubz (4) - Mel, Bob, Paws, Cray
Paws (2) - Zenge, AM
Mel (3) - April, genny, dubz
Paws (1) - AM
Mel (4) - April, genny, dubz, Zenge

9/9
genny (1) - Bob
Paws (1) - AM
Bob (1) - April
Paws (2) - AM, dubz
genny (2) - Bob, Mel
genny (1) - Mel
Paws (3) - AM, dubz, Bob
Paws (4) - AM, dubz, Bob, genny
Bob (2) - April, Paws
Paws (3) - AM, Bob, genny
Bob (3) - April, Paws, dubz
Bob (2) - April, Paws
Paws (4) - AM, Bob, genny, dubz

7/7
 
genny said:
Ok but this is 100% wrong so you need to reconsider from another perspective. It saddens me that you think I’d N1 Zenge 2 games in a row. You said you haven’t lied about that, and I wouldn’t either.
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I don't know what your kill meta is for certain without prior evidence showing you wouldn't repeat kill someone.

Outside of this though, that's not the part I'm stuck on. I can't figure out how to make Bob/April work as a team and that's your only world, right?
 
This is the issue with nongenny pairs.

April/dubz - Extremely dangerous because I'm one of the only players who doesn't believe "dubz will do anything as a wolf." Her flipping wolf would drastically reduce the things I think are off-limits down to exactly two moves. Which is borderline "dubz will do anything as a wolf." So that would very much alter my future perception on what it means for dubz to misyeet a player.

April/Bob - Dangerous because it would mean I can never simply trust April on a wolf yeet any more than I trust Stagg or Chaos. Also, would mean I can't ever take Bob's "not N1" stance as true.
 
yeet genny

I don't see how anything else makes sense right now. That joke d1 still spooks me but otherwise I don't see anything making her and Bob incompatible the way other pairings are, especially after looking at the vote trackers.

I'm still going to read a bit more to see if I find anything glaring.
 
I think I'm at bob/genny so would be okay with either yeet but I want to think about which one is more guaranteed to flip wolf in the off chance I've been giving AM and Dubz too much credit
 
Animal Midwife said:
This is the issue with nongenny pairs.

April/dubz - Extremely dangerous because I'm one of the only players who doesn't believe "dubz will do anything as a wolf." Her flipping wolf would drastically reduce the things I think are off-limits down to exactly two moves. Which is borderline "dubz will do anything as a wolf." So that would very much alter my future perception on what it means for dubz to misyeet a player.

April/Bob - Dangerous because it would mean I can never simply trust April on a wolf yeet any more than I trust Stagg or Chaos. Also, would mean I can't ever take Bob's "not N1" stance as true.
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What about bob/dubz?
 
I'm getting a little held up by bob voting for genny but I guess it could have been done for distancing. Bob was almost yeeted and genny ended up not getting many votes despite a lot of people calling her sketchy, might as well make Genny look better if bob did end up getting yeeted
 
I had a flash of paranoia about AM but I just can't bring myself to believe that she'd attempt a N1 NK on Zenge then make this big of a deal about it on thread, seems too genuine
 
genny said:
Unless you want to put yourself and Dubz into the territory of "will do anything as a wolf." I will ragequit WW if it's you.
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Yeah, I just don't know where to go outside of you because of that.
 
genny said:
Seems to be working pretty well for them.
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Bob almost died D1 and D3 and only really been village read by Mel.

I just don't understand why she'd sacrifice all future cred for one smooth game. Seems like a bad deal but I wouldn't get it anyway.
 
Taking AM out leaves the POE as bob/dubz/genny and it would take a lot to convince myself Dubz is one of them, but for the sake of knowing if we should yeet bob or genny first -

Dubz was quick to move bob to her village reads once he started sounding better and was reluctant to revise the read when he wasn't looking so great again. She defended genny's D1 behavior but stayed hedgy on the rest of her read and figured everything past D1 outweighed that and was willing to place her vote there today. I think if it's not bob/genny, bob/dubz makes more sense than genny/dubz. Safer to go with bob, I think, and he's been sounding a little wolfier to me than genny all game.

Yeet Bob
 
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