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[Animal Midwife]

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Taking AM out leaves the POE as bob/dubz/genny and it would take a lot to convince myself Dubz is one of them, but for the sake of knowing if we should yeet bob or genny first -

Dubz was quick to move bob to her village reads once he started sounding better and was reluctant to revise the read when he wasn't looking so great again. She defended genny's D1 behavior but stayed hedgy on the rest of her read and figured everything past D1 outweighed that and was willing to place her vote there today. I think if it's not bob/genny, bob/dubz makes more sense than genny/dubz. Safer to go with bob, I think, and he's been sounding a little wolfier to me than genny all game.

Yeet Bob

Do you have thoughts on what might have happened N1 regarding Zenge in a wolf!dubz world?

 

[genny]

Oh shoot. Actions are loud. A thingy happened to me last night that was most definitely not protection or blocking. What if Zenge was just really really bad at interpreting night results and didn't actually get attacked? Because the JOAT died before Zenge, and that's been the only protection so far.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oh shoot. Actions are loud. A thingy happened to me last night that was most definitely not protection or blocking. What if Zenge was just really really bad at interpreting night results and didn't actually get attacked? Because the JOAT died before Zenge, and that's been the only protection so far.

genny hwat

 

[genny]

haha. my brain is pudding after this week at work. i probably should have said something about the action earlier.

 

[genny]

@WildZoo
wanna share?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Do you have thoughts on what might have happened N1 regarding Zenge in a wolf!dubz world?

I have no idea, and I don't think Dubz is one of the wolves, but keeping her in the equation makes me feel better about my vote in the off chance she is. Maybe something funky happened with mechanics because Zenge's explanation for what happened didn't match his role flip. Maybe he misinterpreted night results as being attacked when he wasn't. Anything other than him being attacked still doesn't add up in my head because multiple mechanical actions would have had to be at play, but I'm not good at following mechanics and stranger things have happened so I wouldn't put them at 0% chance of happening

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well, I wish this discussion had happened earlier, but at least it's not the last 10 minutes.

 

[genny]

If N1 was conversion instead of an attack, I give up. Heck, I give up anyway. Yeet me and end my suffering.

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo
wanna share?

that it took you so long to talk about it, but sure

Because the JOAT died before Zenge, and that's been the only protection so far.

One of the JOATs died

I protected Zenge d1, watched Bob d2, tracked you last night.

 

[Animal Midwife]

If N1 was conversion instead of an attack, I give up. Heck, I give up anyway. Yeet me and end my suffering.

If I find out there was any conversion in a 10 player game, Lawpy's being put in timeout from me signing up for a while. Three bastard games is too many for one year.

 

[genny]

oh thank goodness. I can still live in a village!dubz world.

 

[genny]

that it took you so long to talk about it, but sure


One of the JOATs died

I protected Zenge d1, watched Bob d2, tracked you last night.

Wait, why did you watch Bob?

 

[cubsrule4e]

OFFICIAL Day 4 IS IT TIME TO GO HOME YET? Vote Tally

Genny (3) - Bob (c), AM, WZ
Bob (2) - Genny, April

5/5

LEADING: @genny

Vote closes TODAY AT 10PM ET (1.25 hrs)

 

[genny]

OFFICIAL Day 4 IS IT TIME TO GO HOME YET? Vote Tally

Genny (3) - Bob (c), AM, WZ
Bob (1) - April

4/5

MISSING: @genny

Vote closes TODAY AT 10PM ET (1.25 hrs)

I voted.

yeet Bob

 

[WildZoo]

Wait, why did you watch Bob?

He sounded village to me and was towards the top of most people's village lists iirc. I considered AM but I also thought Mel and/or Paws was wolfing at the time and didn't think they'd kill AM N2.

 

[Animal Midwife]

He sounded village to me and was towards the top of most people's village lists iirc. I considered AM but I also thought Mel and/or Paws was wolfing at the time and didn't think they'd kill AM N2.

I thought you were village reading Mel at that point.

 

[WildZoo]

I thought you were village reading Mel at that point.

Eh I was still going back and forth on it. Was not in a good thinking space after Zenge died.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Eh I was still going back and forth on it. Was not in a good thinking space after Zenge died.

Can you remind me who was village reading Bob by N2?

 

[WildZoo]

Can you remind me who was village reading Bob by N2?

I don't remember off the top of my head other than myself, I just remember that being my reasoning

 

[Animal Midwife]

idk none of this feel like I'm getting anywhere near a village win so I probably should have just stuck to not signing up

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Would Genny lie about being village if she swore on all of her cats?

 

[BobLoblaw78]

WZ (I assumed) watched me. I was happy Bc it helps build trust I wasn’t doing anything

 

[genny]

guys, i've figured it out. we're all villagers, and it's tot chat that's killing people.

 

[genny]

Would Genny lie about being village if she swore on all of her cats?

no. if it was just the evil one, then yes. but all of them? no.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

AM said shortly after that she was keeping an eye on me. So I assumed she knew WZ did it and was making herself a target for me if I was wolf. (Or maybe WZ was fake claiming and it actually was AM that watched me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Would Genny lie about being village if she swore on all of her cats?

I know Pippy wouldn't and but don't if genny is the same. Which leads me to an ridiculous loophole predicament that would have never happened in a basics game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM said shortly after that she was keeping an eye on me. So I assumed she knew WZ did it and was making herself a target for me if I was wolf. (Or maybe WZ was fake claiming and it actually was AM that watched me.

No, I would mean that in a tracker sense, at most.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

That is why I softer that I would know more multiple times. Or that I would have more info after the night. I wanted to make wolves think they needed to kill me over our PR

 

[Animal Midwife]

WZ (I assumed) watched me. I was happy Bc it helps build trust I wasn’t doing anything

That's not how watchers work. They only see who was interacting with you.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I can’t see am being wolf. Or she loses all credibility in the future about zenge NK on N1

 

[genny]

I wasn’t doing anything

this is not how watching works. watching means that Dubz would see actions done to you, not actions done by you.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

If it is not AM or Genny then it has to be WZ and April. I swear on Genny a cats I’m village. Seriously. I’m village

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I would be fine to lose to AM if she is lying about being wolf. It would be worth the info in the future

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I don’t know if Genny has played the swearing on cats before. Do you believe it?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I would feel vindicated if it was April, but I also feel weird voting so far out of the prior people's POE. Not that it means it's a wrong move, but I don't usually get put into this situation.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I’m about to be home and will find a computer

 

[BobLoblaw78]

April or WZ has to be wolf if AM isn’t lying. I’m operating 100% on am being village

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don’t know if Genny has played the swearing on cats before. Do you believe it?

I don't know. Everyone has a good alibi and sweraing on others isn't something I've tracked. Maybe you can ask genny if she has a link to a prior game where she said this.

 

[genny]

I don't think I've said it before?

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I had a loud action of someone watching me all night.

I also had a tinfoil that it could be a wolf watching. Would a wolf watching me be a loud action like that?

 

[genny]

Why would you think it was a wolf watching?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I had a loud action of someone watching me all night.

I also had a tinfoil that it could be a wolf watching. Would a wolf watching me be a loud action like that?

Yes. Loudness doesn't determine affiliation.

 

[WildZoo]

I think we're getting a bit into the weeds here going by what people would or would not swear on rather than things that have actually occurred in the game.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Does it make sense for village to have these many PRs and wolves have nada? Is WZ lying about her PR being village role???

 

[WildZoo]

Does it make sense for village to have these many PRs and wolves have nada? Is WZ lying about her PR being village role???

How do you know wolves don't have PRs?

 

[BobLoblaw78]

You say WZ does lots of things as a wolf. Could this be just more of it?

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Being watched and assuming AM and WZ was part of it and village was the extra info I had

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Aprilthearab Do you have anything to say about this? I haven't heard from you in awhile.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

How do you know wolves don't have PRs?

They may. I am worried it may have been a wolf watching me

 

[genny]

I can't believe I have to sit here and die for another half hour. This is like that crazy cat lady appointment I couldn't get out of the other day where she kept asking why her cats are fighting with each other, but wouldn't let me do any diagnostics to figure it out, and then at the end of the appointment said that I didn't answer her question.