Should I attend Rowan SOM interview?

[GameNameJames]

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I am from CA and have been accepted to Touro Nevada, and I would prefer to stay close to home. Do you guys think it's still worth it to attend the Rowan ii? I do prefer to stay close to CA. I do see myself doing some type of surgery residency so if Rowan offers me more opportunities I would definitely be interested in going there.

 

[mathnerd88]

If you don't want to be away from home and live on the other side of the country while paying $59k in just tuition for OOS, I would say no. However, RowanSOM is regarded as a top tier DO school while Touro is considered mid-tier.

 

[Goro]

Everything in your post screams "no"!

I am from CA and have been accepted to Touro Nevada, and I would prefer to stay close to home. Do you guys think it's still worth it to attend the Rowan ii? I do prefer to stay close to CA. I do see myself doing some type of surgery residency so if Rowan offers me more opportunities I would definitely be interested in going there.

 

[GameNameJames]

Everything in your post screams "no"!

Lol why do you say that?

 

[Goro]

I am from CA and have been accepted to Touro Nevada, and I would prefer to stay close to home. Do you guys think it's still worth it to attend the Rowan ii? I do prefer to stay close to CA.

Lol why do you say that?

 

[JW2020]

^Goro's post, plus they don't have Dr. Preddy at Rowan.

 

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[QueenJames]

I was in the same shoes but decided to still go just to check out the city. Never have been to the east coast.

 

[DetectiveAlonzo]

Lol only on SDN are there "tiers" for DO programs. Ridiculous.

OP. Go where you are comfortable.

If it ain't "Hahvuuhhdd", or Yale, or any of those programs... please don't mention tiers.

 

[mathnerd88]

Lol only on SDN are there "tiers" for DO programs. Ridiculous.

OP. Go where you are comfortable.

If it ain't "Hahvuuhhdd", or Yale, or any of those programs... please don't mention tiers.

Believe it or not, some schools are actually better than others in some or most categories in education. What makes Harvard or Yale better than other MD programs? Everyone learns the same stuff. Because if it is just in terms of research and funding, there's a VAST difference in research opps between DO schools.

If there's a "tier" system in play for MD, why doesn't it exist in DO?

Not to be rude, but I find that those who don't believe in tiers are probably those who aren't in what SDN users consider "top-tier."

 

[deleted610572]

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[mathnerd88]

Because residency programs (outside of regional programs that have experience with the DO school) don't give a crap which DO school you went to. You will see those who prepare others better but a DO is a DO is a DO.

Ask any MD residency program what they think about NYIT or Touro NY. Unless they are from that region they will just say they're a DO

I'm starting to doubt this train of thought. Yes, it is harder to get into competitive MD residencies as a DO, but going to a school that prepares you better for the boards and gives you plenty of resources and research opps will help. That's why tiers exist. Also, some areas are "notably" better in training than others. If I rotated with some medical students in Philly as a PCOM student, I'm more likely to get into a residency in Philadelphia at a good hospital, which is one of the best areas to learn healthcare in. The chances of that happening at let's say, someone from LUCOM with no ties is much lower.

I personally know a DO from PCOM who is doing a surgery residency at BWH. Why do you think people compare match lists? Compare stats? Compare research opportunities? With your train of thought, then everyone should just go to LECOM, because a DO is a DO right? Might as well go to the cheapest school.

Sure, DO's have to work harder than MD's to get to the same position, but that has nothing to do with DO school "tiers." Some DO programs will make it much easier for you to succeed than others. That's where SDNers mean by "tiers."

Like you said, "regional programs." That's why most of the top-tier DO (or even all) schools are located in or near major cities. Some of the best training comes from there since you get to see a lot more going on.

 

[osckey]

I am from CA and have been accepted to Touro Nevada, and I would prefer to stay close to home. Do you guys think it's still worth it to attend the Rowan ii? I do prefer to stay close to CA. I do see myself doing some type of surgery residency so if Rowan offers me more opportunities I would definitely be interested in going there.

I passed on my interview simply because I realized I didn't want to live there. Go to a place that makes you happy.

 

[DetectiveAlonzo]

Believe it or not, some schools are actually better than others in some or most categories in education. What makes Harvard or Yale better than other MD programs? Everyone learns the same stuff. Because if it is just in terms of research and funding, there's a VAST difference in research opps between DO schools.

If there's a "tier" system in play for MD, why doesn't it exist in DO?

Not to be rude, but I find that those who don't believe in tiers are probably those who aren't in what SDN users consider "top-tier."

LMAO bruh.

Because number 1...it's still a DO program (no offense to anybody as I willingly chose to apply and accept seats at a few programs that I am happy about) and number 2... real life is totally different than what some computer geeks say on the internet... ESPECIALLY the NEUROTIC KIND that is found ONLY on SDN.

If a current student resident, fellow, program director, or an adcom ain't said anything about it.. miss me with that bullfeces.

 

[mathnerd88]

LMAO bruh.

Because number 1...it's still a DO program (no offense to anybody as I willingly chose to apply and accept seats at a few programs that I am happy about) and number 2... real life is totally different than what some computer geeks say on the internet... ESPECIALLY the NEUROTIC KIND that is found ONLY on SDN.

If a current student resident, fellow, program director, or an adcom ain't said anything about it.. miss me with that bullfeces.

That's not really a counterargument to my points...there's clearly a difference between quality of rotations, stats, research funding, etc.

If you want to really "objectively compare" DO schools, start with how much research funding schools get. That's how MD schools get ranked in tiers. Then, you can start ranking later by LizzyM, those that have teaching affiliate hospitals, GME programs, etc. When you look at the different lists for each category you "rank," you'll find that some of these schools will repeatedly be at the top of your list.

True, I never said going to a top-tier DO school yields an absolutely huge significant difference/advantage over another, but there's still a difference. Some schools will yield better resources for their students over another. Saying there's no difference is absolutely naïve.

 

[DetectiveAlonzo]

That's not really a counterargument to my points...there's clearly a difference between quality of rotations, stats, research funding, etc.

If you want to really "objectively compare" DO schools, start with how much research funding schools get. That's how MD schools get ranked in tiers. Then, you can start ranking later by LizzyM, those that have teaching affiliate hospitals, GME programs, etc. When you look at the different lists for each category you "rank," you'll find that some of these schools will repeatedly be at the top of your list.

True, I never said going to a top-tier DO school yields an absolutely huge significant difference/advantage over another, but there's still a difference. Some schools will yield better resources for their students over another. Saying there's no difference is absolutely naïve.

Once again... nobody in real life.. like the real world.. cares about "LizzyM" scores... or talks about "tiers" for DO programs. Only super pre-meds bring dumb **** up like that and sound like a dingus during interview meet-and-greet times. Those guys and gals are super easy to spot and especially the type I stay away from.

If you are going to a "top-tier" program and had super high "LizzyM" scores, more power to you bro bro. I'm sure you will kill it wherever you go.

Back to OP tho...First and foremost.. go where you see yourself succeeding and where you are comfortable OP.

 

[mathnerd88]

Once again... nobody in real life.. like the real world.. cares about "LizzyM" scores... or talks about "tiers" for DO programs. Only super pre-meds bring dumb **** up like that and sound like a dingus during interview meet-and-greet times. Those guys and gals are super easy to spot and especially the type I stay away from.

If you are going to a "top-tier" program and had super high "LizzyM" scores, more power to you bro bro. I'm sure you will kill it wherever you go.

Back to OP tho...First and foremost.. go where you see yourself succeeding and where you are comfortable OP.

I've been in the real world in academia and published papers. I'm a nontraditional applicant. Trust me, there's a difference in an institution that has research and one that doesn't.

If you just want to go into primary care, and don't care where you end up, then yes, there's no difference in where you go to school. More competitive residencies prefer/require you do research.

To each his own (which is why some sdners say it doesn't matter which DO school you go to,) but trust me, there's a vast difference between DO schools. Maybe you don't call it tiers, but this difference exists.