Should I give up on medical school?

[DBS 2015]

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New to the forum, so I don't know if posting questions like this is against the rules or not... so sorry if it is 🙁.

Anyways, I just got out of my genetics final and I'm feeling pretty bad about it, so I just started looking around for some advice.

Alright so here's a bit of background information:
Started College in Fall 2012... and withdrew from all classes that semester due to family problems.
Came back the next semester and did pretty well. I'll just post how I did from then on.

Spring 2013:
Chemistry 1: A
Chem lab: B
Health elective: A
Business Calculus: B
Spanish 1: A
(3.714)

Fall 2013:
Chem 2: B
Chem 2 lab: A
Bio 1: B
Chemistry 1 TA seminar: A (1 credit hour)
English 1: A
Sociology: A
(3.571)

Spring 2014:
Bio 2: B
Bio 2 lab: A (2 credit hours)
English 2: A
Business computing: A
Geography: A
Statistics: A
(3.823)
Cumulative GPA: 3.711
48 earned hours total

Now here's the thing.. I transferred schools and started going to UNC in Fall of 2014. It's one of the best public schools in the nation, and now my grades have gone downhill like crazy. I love the school, but maybe I made a mistake in coming here. I've had issues with my roommates and all and I know for a fact that it's affected me a lot, but obviously I can't just blame him for this when someone is just looking at my grades.

Fall 2014:
Asian Culture: A
Drama: C
Organic Chemistry 1: C
History: B
Some Gym class (1 credit): B

Spring 2015 (What I think I've gotten):
Genetics: C+
Geography: B
Religion: B-
Exercise Science Human Anatomy: Pass/Fail (Pass)

My grades have gone to **** and I don't know what is gonna happen to me anymore. I have until Spring of 2017 to graduate, but I'm able to graduate in Fall of 2016 if I don't mess anymore stuff up from now on. I wanted to be a Doctor, but this isn't looking realistic anymore, and now I don't know what to do. I'm planning on taking a gap year, but is that even going to help?
Here are my ECs if it even matters anymore:
Student Learning coach (Basically a TA for general chemistry 1) for one semester
30 hours shadowing a physician
Volunteer note taker for sociology (45 hours community service).

I'm planning on joining this public service thing which will get me 300 hours of volunteer work by the time I graduate.
Also one last thing (Sounds like an excuse but I might as well be honest)
It was always highly suggested that I had ADD since middle school, but my parents wouldn't allow me to get medication because they didn't believe I did. I got bad grades on my first two genetics exams this semester (66 and 68), but then in March I finally got medication and my tests grades also improved tremendously (90, 88). The final was hard because it had a lot of things on it from when I was doing bad in the class, and now because of that, I think I'm ending up with a C+ instead of a B or B-.

I'm taking physics 1 and 2 along with calculus 1 at my old school this summer, and I'm hoping I'll be able to get A's in them all.

If you took the time to read all of this, thank you. Please let me know what you think, and what you would personally do. I don't really want to go to DO school, just because my parents would probably be ass hats about it and act like I'm not a real doctor (That's assuming if I could even get into that at this point).
Anyway, please help me out here, I'm hating life right now, and it's all my fault. Just so lost.

 

[NeuResurgens]

I don't think it's time for you to give up yet. It sounds like you've identified one factor that might have hurt you (ADD) and have taken steps to address it. In addition, transferring from a small school to a large one can have a negative effect on your grades the first few semesters since it's a big transition. I'd say work your tail off this next semester now that you understand a bit more about why you weren't doing well. Try some study habits that seem to work for you and see what happens. If you see improvement, this is a good sign. Your ECs look good, especially the "public service thing." 300 hours is a lot of hours.

There are rough times as an undergrad when you're pursuing medicine. The simple question is this - is medicine what you dream of? Can you see yourself doing anything else? I feel that if you truly are passionate about medicine, some sustained effort is going to be able to get you there. Good prospective medical students aren't necessarily perfect - but they are adaptable and are good at solving problems, whether they pertain to forces in a free body diagram, or to fixing real life problems like bad grades, bad room mates or potential illnesses. You have found the problems you need to solve. If you can do that, then you have a legitimate shot in medicine.

 

[ZedsDed]

What is your cGPA and sGPA?

 

[Nysor_bttw]

You're going to have to excel in those science classes from this point forward. It's really hard to say you're doomed because there are always ways to reinvent yourself, but getting Bs and Cs in 2/3 of your science classes, as well as getting Cs in your science courses when they're the only ones your taking, reflects poorly on your ability to handle medical school (from an AdCom standpoint).

Keep working those extracurriculars, but make sure you can handle school. When it comes to the MCAT, do it big. You may have to take a gap year to really focus on it if school takes all of your attention.

Hard work can do wonders! It may be a hole, but you still have a shovel to dig yourself out!

 

[Goro]

There are several things you need to do.

One is to get to your school's counseling center, because you have issues to deal with and they need fixing.
Next, start acing everything. This will show that this past year was a fluke. You need to erase the impression that a "harder" scholler caused your GPA to flounder.
If necessary, you might need to do a post-bac/SMP to convince Adcoms that you can handle med school.

 

[DBS 2015]

What is your cGPA and sGPA?

Well my GPA at my old school was a 3.711.
GPA at my current school is probably going to be 2.709 after this semester.
I can try and calculate the science GPA later, but I think at my old school it was at 3.4.

I don't think it's time for you to give up yet. It sounds like you've identified one factor that might have hurt you (ADD) and have taken steps to address it. In addition, transferring from a small school to a large one can have a negative effect on your grades the first few semesters since it's a big transition. I'd say work your tail off this next semester now that you understand a bit more about why you weren't doing well. Try some study habits that seem to work for you and see what happens. If you see improvement, this is a good sign. Your ECs look good, especially the "public service thing." 300 hours is a lot of hours.

There are rough times as an undergrad when you're pursuing medicine. The simple question is this - is medicine what you dream of? Can you see yourself doing anything else? I feel that if you truly are passionate about medicine, some sustained effort is going to be able to get you there. Good prospective medical students aren't necessarily perfect - but they are adaptable and are good at solving problems, whether they pertain to forces in a free body diagram, or to fixing real life problems like bad grades, bad room mates or potential illnesses. You have found the problems you need to solve. If you can do that, then you have a legitimate shot in medicine.

Medicine is something I've always wanted to do since I was a kid.

You're going to have to excel in those science classes from this point forward. It's really hard to say you're doomed because there are always ways to reinvent yourself, but getting Bs and Cs in 2/3 of your science classes, as well as getting Cs in your science courses when they're the only ones your taking, reflects poorly on your ability to handle medical school (from an AdCom standpoint).

Keep working those extracurriculars, but make sure you can handle school. When it comes to the MCAT, do it big. You may have to take a gap year to really focus on it if school takes all of your attention.

Hard work can do wonders! It may be a hole, but you still have a shovel to dig yourself out!

I think that next semester I'll be able to make straight A's. I'm signed up for Cell Biology, Analytical Chemistry (With Lab) and then a few gen ed courses. I'm doing physics 1 and 2 with calculus 1 at my old school this summer. I know that I absolutely must get A's in all of those or else it looks like I'm finished. All external issues will be gone starting next week.

Also, is it an issue if I started school in Fall of 2012, then withdrew, and then started again the next semester? Will it be a big deal if I decide to graduate in Fall 2016 or Spring 2017?

 

[NonTrad16]

Well my GPA at my old school was a 3.711.
GPA at my current school is probably going to be 2.709 after this semester.
I can try and calculate the science GPA later, but I think at my old school it was at 3.4.
Also, is it an issue if I started school in Fall of 2012, then withdrew, and then started again the next semester? Will it be a big deal if I decide to graduate in Fall 2016 or Spring 2017?

GPA is much more significant than lapses in continuity or degree length, though you may be expected to explain them. You only get the chance to explain them given the stats for interview.

Also, in ref to DO programs, do not allow your parents to dissuade you from a course they (may not) know anything about if you think it will get you want you want. They aren't going to school or pursuing the career -- you are.

 

[deleted577188]

Do whatever you were doing when you got those A's and few B's.

 

[ZedsDed]

Well my GPA at my old school was a 3.711.
GPA at my current school is probably going to be 2.709 after this semester.
I can try and calculate the science GPA later, but I think at my old school it was at 3.4.




Medicine is something I've always wanted to do since I was a kid.



I think that next semester I'll be able to make straight A's. I'm signed up for Cell Biology, Analytical Chemistry (With Lab) and then a few gen ed courses. I'm doing physics 1 and 2 with calculus 1 at my old school this summer. I know that I absolutely must get A's in all of those or else it looks like I'm finished. All external issues will be gone starting next week.

Also, is it an issue if I started school in Fall of 2012, then withdrew, and then started again the next semester? Will it be a big deal if I decide to graduate in Fall 2016 or Spring 2017?

This will decide your future, you should take the time to calculate your GPA.

 

[DBS 2015]

This will decide your future, you should take the time to calculate your GPA.

It looks like the overall is going to be a 3.37 now.
After this semester, the Science GPA will either be a 3.11 (most likely) or 3.16 (Assuming they are kind enough to give me a B- in Genetics)

If I get an A in all (3) of my summer classes (Calc 1, Phys 1 & 2), I should have a 3.357 or 3.39 (Again assuming Genetics is a B-)

 

[ZedsDed]

It looks like the overall is going to be a 3.37 now.
After this semester, the Science GPA will either be a 3.11 (most likely) or 3.16 (Assuming they are kind enough to give me a B- in Genetics)

If I get an A in all (3) of my summer classes (Calc 1, Phys 1 & 2), I should have a 3.357 or 3.39 (Again assuming Genetics is a B-)

I suggest you consider DO. Who cares what your parents think? Are you seriously not capable of making this decision without your parents approval?

 

[DBS 2015]

I suggest you consider DO. Who cares what your parents think? Are you seriously not capable of making this decision without your parents approval?

Can you explain to me why DO has such a stigma associated with it? I didn't think anything of it, but I don't understand it either.

 

[candbgirl]

Do you have any clinical service ECs? You really need that unless it is buried somewhere in that 300 hours community service. Your steep downward trend has to completely reverse. It's fine to say you'll get all As this summer and next Fall but you have to do it. Excuses are over. Get to work. See where you are when you graduate and then decide if MD is a possibility or if DO is is your best option. Also spend some time shadowing a DO so you have pertinent information to give to your parents. But remember, ultimately it is your choice and your life.

 

[MDDoubleD]

Can you explain to me why DO has such a stigma associated with it? I didn't think anything of it, but I don't understand it either.

To be blunt, it evolved out of quackery (isn't anymore but still) and almost no one goes to DO school who gets in MD (hence our OP who is considering DO as a fallback). I've worked with brilliant DOs but the average DO is not of the same caliber as the average MD.

 

[ZedsDed]

To be blunt, it evolved out of quackery (isn't anymore but still) and almost no one goes to DO school who gets in MD (hence our OP who is considering DO as a fallback). I've worked with brilliant DOs but the average DO is not of the same caliber as the average MD.

Oh boy, here we go. Duck and cover people.

 

[DBS 2015]

To be blunt, it evolved out of quackery (isn't anymore but still) and almost no one goes to DO school who gets in MD (hence our OP who is considering DO as a fallback). I've worked with brilliant DOs but the average DO is not of the same caliber as the average MD.

Well are my chances completely shot for MD?

 

[DBS 2015]

Do you have any clinical service ECs? You really need that unless it is buried somewhere in that 300 hours community service. Your steep downward trend has to completely reverse. It's fine to say you'll get all As this summer and next Fall but you have to do it. Excuses are over. Get to work. See where you are when you graduate and then decide if MD is a possibility or if DO is is your best option. Also spend some time shadowing a DO so you have pertinent information to give to your parents. But remember, ultimately it is your choice and your life.

I should be beginning clinical service hours this summer in like two weeks actually.

 

[altblue]

It looks like the overall is going to be a 3.37 now.
After this semester, the Science GPA will either be a 3.11 (most likely) or 3.16 (Assuming they are kind enough to give me a B- in Genetics)

If I get an A in all (3) of my summer classes (Calc 1, Phys 1 & 2), I should have a 3.357 or 3.39 (Again assuming Genetics is a B-)

I'm sorry, but with that last semester, I'd seriously reconsider taking those 3 classes in one summer. Maybe take 1 or 2 of the above. I know it's at your old school, but summer classes move at a much faster pace and none of those 3 are really light at nearly any school

 

[Pasmal]

Well are my chances completely shot for MD?

Calculate your GPA for sure and let us know. If you end up with a ~3.4c/3.2s as you suspect, you will need to be very strong in every other area including ECs LORs and MCAT to have a shot at low/mid tier MDs.

 

[Atmosphere123]

Sounds like you spent two years at a school that inflates grades then transferred to a reputable and rigorous university.
Hope is not lost.
Work on your study habits because the way you succeed at your first school isn't going to work at UNC.
Track the hours you put in each day and set goals. Work in study groups. Go to tutoring.
(I had a very similar experience as a transfer student)

 

[MDDoubleD]

Well are my chances completely shot for MD?

Work your ass off in the time you have and apply hard. If you're going to be happy in primary care or a less than competitive specialty go DO if that's all you can do but understand you will be giving up any chance at NS, ortho, or derm etc.

You'll be just as much a doctor as a DO but it will be a nightmare to get an even moderately competitive residency.

 

[altblue]

Sounds like you spent two years at a school that inflates grades then transferred to a reputable and rigorous university.
Hope is not lost.
Work on your study habits because the way you succeed at your first school isn't going to work at UNC.
Track the hours you put in each day and set goals. Work in study groups. Go to tutoring.
(I had a very similar experience as a transfer student)

Good advice. And ditto. Definitely was not happy when I got my first test back at my new school.

At a competitive school, it's expected that the majority of the students will put the work in, but not everyone there can still get an A. Being 1-1.5 SD above average, grade-wise, is difficult when you're surrounded by students who got a 2100+ and 3.8+ in high school. You're going to have to work very hard AND very efficiently to do well in courses like these.

Honestly, I'd recommend using tutoring intelligently by coming up with a plan for each of your courses. That's a good starting point. Don't initially ask about proteins or stereochemistry or some specific topic - instead, talk about how to study efficiently for each course - 1-2 hours a day studying inefficiently for a course is a lot of time lost and could impact your grade.

 

[The_Sunny_Doc]

Work your ass off in the time you have and apply hard. If you're going to be happy in primary care or a less than competitive specialty go DO if that's all you can do but understand you will be giving up any chance at NS, ortho, or derm etc.

You'll be just as much a doctor as a DO but it will be a nightmare to get an even moderately competitive residency.

Don't they have AOA ortho spots?

 

[MDDoubleD]

Don't they have AOA ortho spots?

The technical answer is yes. The odds of obtaining one are not sunny, substantially worse than that of an MD plus DO schools are often worse about research (that's a biggie to do ortho).

Like I've said, a DO can be just as good (or better) a doctor as an MD but the reality of the world of residency matching is said DO will most probably be in primary care. You can go DO and become a neurosurgeon but that's like going to law school and expecting a seat on the Supreme Court.

 

[moisne]

I didn't really read that carefully - it kinda sounded like excuses so I skipped it but if you said ur sGPA is 3.4 and have possible 2.7 in something - I think you need to reconsidered. Perhaps applying DO and do a few grade replacements. DO schools are less snobby and gives you a chance to redeem yourself by retaking those "C" classes.

 

[DBS 2015]

So I thought I'd update this a little bit (Sorry if this notifies all of you). I ended up with a B- in Genetics, a B- in Religion, a B in Geography, a Pass in Exercise Science Anatomy (Not the biology one, I'll take that next year).
I took summer session 1 at my old school and got..
Physics 1: A
Physics lab: B
Calculus: B
Total of 7 credit hours.
I'm taking Summer session 2 now (Physics 2 with the lab so a total of 4 credits).
Let's just say I get an A in those.. How do you think my grades are for now?
I AM planning on taking a gap year after I graduate in Spring 2017. How are my chances of getting into a med school - ignoring race. And now if I'm half Spanish how are my chances? Also, I don't know if this affects anything, but the school I transferred into is a top 5 public school in the nation (on basically every list there is out there).

Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated no matter how good or bad.

 

[gyngyn]

So I thought I'd update this a little bit (Sorry if this notifies all of you). I ended up with a B- in Genetics, a B- in Religion, a B in Geography, a Pass in Exercise Science Anatomy (Not the biology one, I'll take that next year).
I took summer session 1 at my old school and got..
Physics 1: A
Physics lab: B
Calculus: B
Total of 7 credit hours.
I'm taking Summer session 2 now (Physics 2 with the lab so a total of 4 credits).
Let's just say I get an A in those.. How do you think my grades are for now?
I AM planning on taking a gap year after I graduate in Spring 2017. How are my chances of getting into a med school - ignoring race. And now if I'm half Spanish how are my chances? Also, I don't know if this affects anything, but the school I transferred into is a top 5 public school in the nation (on basically every list there is out there).

Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated no matter how good or bad.

European Hispanics are not under-represented in medicine.
Language skills are always appreciated, though.
Calculate your AMCAS and AACOMAS gpas: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/please-read-before-posting.901670/

 

[NonTrad16]

Please provide total cumulative and science GPA (AMCAS or AACOMAS calculated, not transcript, for ALL your coursework), and term by term gpas if you want any useful advice. Reading though a long list of letter grades, a mention of a 2.7 GPA, and then more letters makes it difficult to provide any clear insight on your numbers.

Otherwise: don't bank on a top x school offsetting anything. It may help if it's a feeder school, apparently, but otherwise you still need strong numbers. And with 7 credits you should really try to ace them... That's half (or less) a full course load and it would be easy to ask how well you would handle a full science courseload.

 

[doc05]

what's alarming is that half off your courses are fluff, such as geography. another concern is that your grades have gone downhill! a few Cs as a freshman is one thing, but your issue is much worse.

also, how did you do calc and physics at the same time?? isn't calc a prerequisite? or did you take physics for poets??

remember one thing: not everyone needs to be a doctor.

 

[ZedsDed]

isn't calc a prerequisite? or did you take physics for poets??

lol

 

[DBS 2015]

what's alarming is that half off your courses are fluff, such as geography. another concern is that your grades have gone downhill! a few Cs as a freshman is one thing, but your issue is much worse.

also, how did you do calc and physics at the same time?? isn't calc a prerequisite? or did you take physics for poets??

remember one thing: not everyone needs to be a doctor.

They let me take both at the same time for some reason, but it's the real physics class that everyone needs.

 

[DBS 2015]

Please provide total cumulative and science GPA (AMCAS or AACOMAS calculated, not transcript, for ALL your coursework), and term by term gpas if you want any useful advice. Reading though a long list of letter grades, a mention of a 2.7 GPA, and then more letters makes it difficult to provide any clear insight on your numbers.

Otherwise: don't bank on a top x school offsetting anything. It may help if it's a feeder school, apparently, but otherwise you still need strong numbers. And with 7 credits you should really try to ace them... That's half (or less) a full course load and it would be easy to ask how well you would handle a full science courseload.

I listed my GPAs for every term already. My science GPA at the moment is 3.236.

 

[gyngyn]

I listed my GPAs for every term already. My science GPA at the moment is 3.236.

We need your AMCAS and AACOMAS science and Cgpa's

 

[DBS 2015]

We need your AMCAS and AACOMAS science and Cgpa's

I don't understand what else you want. I'm a ******* so explain it to me please. I've given you my science GPA, and I've only taken science courses that count towards medical schools anyway.

 

[gyngyn]

I don't understand what else you want. I'm a ******* so explain it to me please. I've given you my science GPA, and I've only taken science courses that count towards medical schools anyway.

If you follow the link I included in my request you will find calculators to approximate where you stand with regard to the two major application systems (AMCAS and AACOMAS). Your gpa will include all grades since high school (including AP, if any), not just science or "pre-requisites." AMCAS and AACOMAS calculate science grades differently, so it would help us counsel you if one or the other were higher.

If you have taken no humanities or social sciences, then you are right, your current Cgpa will be the same as your science. Nevertheless, the weight and grades given to each course can be more accurately estimated using the calculators rather than your school's gpa.

 

[northernlights15]

I don't understand what else you want. I'm a ******* so explain it to me please. I've given you my science GPA, and I've only taken science courses that count towards medical schools anyway.

The calculator will help you calculate your cGPA/sGPA with grades from both schools.

 

[northernlights15]

If you follow the link I included in my request you will find calculators to approximate where you stand with regard to the two major application systems (AMCAS and AACOMAS). Your gpa will include all grades since high school (including AP, if any), not just science or "pre-requisites."

If you have taken no humanities or social sciences, then you are right, your current Cgpa will be the same as your science. Nevertheless, the weight and grades given to each course can be more accurately estimated using the calculators rather than your school's gpa.

Wait, AP grades count in GPAs?…

I never was given college credit for my APs. It was senior year and I took them because I was forced to. I drew flowers on the exams and got 1s. Please tell me they don't count in the GPA!

 

[gyngyn]

Wait, AP grades count in GPAs?…

I never was given college credit for my APs. It was senior year and I took them because I was forced to. I drew flowers on the exams and got 1s. Please tell me they don't count in the GPA!

AP credit is included, I'm sorry.

 

[northernlights15]

AP credit is included, I'm sorry.

https://www.aamc.org/students/download/188688/data/apcoursework.pdf

Are you certain about this? I thought it was only for AP classes one receives college credit for.

I took the Computer Science AP and never had any reason receive college credit for that.

 

[gyngyn]

https://www.aamc.org/students/download/188688/data/apcoursework.pdf

Are you certain about this? I thought it was only for AP classes one receives college credit for.

If there is such a thing as AP without college credit, then it would not be included!

 

[ZedsDed]

https://www.aamc.org/students/download/188688/data/apcoursework.pdf

Are you certain about this? I thought it was only for AP classes one receives college credit for.

I took the Computer Science AP and never had any reason receive college credit for that.

As far as I am aware, AP credit always counts towards your GPA. You are not the first person to ask this. You might want to contact your high school.

 

[northernlights15]

If there is such a thing as AP without college credit, then it would not be included!

Ok phew you almost gave me a heart attack. The only way most institutions would even grant college credit for an AP is if the student received a 3, 4, or 5 on the exam. I also know plenty of people who took AP exams and decided to take the class anyway forgoing the AP credit (e.g., got a 5 on AP Bio and decided to take College Bio anyway).

I took exams like AP Comp Sci and they were in no way relevant to my degree. Even if I got a 5 it wouldn't count.

https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/amcasresources/187300/how_to_enter_ap_coursework.html

Even in the beginning they say "AP coursework you earned college credit for…"

 

[gyngyn]

Ok phew you almost gave me a heart attack. The only way most institutions would even grant college credit for an AP is if the student received a 3, 4, or 5 on the exam. I also know plenty of people who took AP exams and decided to take the class anyway forgoing the AP credit (e.g., got a 5 on AP Bio and decided to take College Bio anyway).

I took exams like AP Comp Sci and they were in no way relevant to my degree. Even if I got a 5 it wouldn't count.

https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/amcasresources/187300/how_to_enter_ap_coursework.html

Even in the beginning they say "AP coursework you earned college credit for…"

I frankly had no idea that there was such a thing as non college AP credit.
Thank you, learn something new every day.
That was painful to listen to, btw...

 

[698344]

AP credit is included, I'm sorry.

You just gave me a heart attack.

 

[northernlights15]

I frankly had no idea that there was such a thing as non college AP credit.
Thank you, learn something new every day.
That was painful to listen to, btw...

I always assumed that was the case. Senior YR of HS nobody usually gives a crap about their AP exams and many college pre-health offices recommend taking the official pre-reqs even if they are qualified for AP credit.

The video was painful to listen to? (Can you imagine how I felt wondering what 2 F's for APs would do to my GPA…?)

I'm still going to make a thread now confirming this with others…I know I wasn't the only HS senior who drew on their AP exams...

 

[ofthesaints]

You've dug yourself a little hole, but if you put in the work, I'd don't see why you can't get out of it.

 

[DBS 2015]

If you follow the link I included in my request you will find calculators to approximate where you stand with regard to the two major application systems (AMCAS and AACOMAS). Your gpa will include all grades since high school (including AP, if any), not just science or "pre-requisites." AMCAS and AACOMAS calculate science grades differently, so it would help us counsel you if one or the other were higher.

If you have taken no humanities or social sciences, then you are right, your current Cgpa will be the same as your science. Nevertheless, the weight and grades given to each course can be more accurately estimated using the calculators rather than your school's gpa.

I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for, but I entered everything I've got into it.

 

[ZedsDed]

I always assumed that was the case. Senior YR of HS nobody usually gives a crap about their AP exams and many college pre-health offices recommend taking the official pre-reqs even if they are qualified for AP credit.

The video was painful to listen to? (Can you imagine how I felt wondering what 2 F's for APs would do to my GPA…?)

I'm still going to make a thread now confirming this with others…I knew I wasn't the only HS senior who drew on their AP exams...

Might want to call you HS anyway, just to confirm 100%

 

[ZedsDed]

I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for, but I entered everything I've got into it.

Dude, he just wants your cumulative and science GPAs according to AMCAS and according to AACOMAS

 

[northernlights15]

Might want to call you HS anyway, just to confirm 100%

What is there to call my HS about? It wasn't a college course. It was a regular HS AP course. In what cases have you seen non credit AP scores needed to be reported?