Should I mention I am applying to med school at job interview?

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On a random night back in August, I applied to a forensic assistant position at the coroners office. Fast forward to now, I am interviewing in a couple of days. I will attend for the interview experience, but am wondering if I should mention that I am currently applying to med school. This is my plan B and so far I've only received one II (LizzyM 72 ORM CA res). I really want to increase my chances for this position.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
 
Coming from personal experience, it will only hurt your chances of getting the job. Employers are looking for people who will commit for an extended period of time. Telling a potential employer about medical school is the same as telling them that you are going to work there until a better opportunity comes along.
 
Coming from personal experience, it will only hurt your chances of getting the job. Employers are looking for people who will commit for an extended period of time. Telling a potential employer about medical school is the same as telling them that you are going to work there until a better opportunity comes along.

Or they'll be impressed you're applying to medical school and accept you on the spot.
 
On a random night back in August, I applied to a forensic assistant position at the coroners office. Fast forward to now, I am interviewing in a couple of days. I will attend for the interview experience, but am wondering if I should mention that I am currently applying to med school. This is my plan B and so far I've only received one II (LizzyM 72 ORM CA res). I really want to increase my chances for this position.
Any thoughts? Thanks.

While it won't be in your short-term best interest to reveal that you are applying to medical school, it is the professional and proper thing to do. Go ahead and tell your interviewer that if you get accepted this cycle, you will be attending medical school. If they still offer you the position knowing this, then you are good to go...

Lets think this out. Medicine is a small community and an omission of this fact might help you land the job (a short-term win), but then you get accepted into med school and leave in 6-8 months. The medical examiner might not appreciate that they invested time, money, and resources into training you for the position, thinking you will be there in the long run. You don't tell, bail after a few months, and in the long run, it might come back to haunt you during residency, fellowship, attending position after med school, etc...

Do the right thing and let them know you are applying to med school this cycle. Generating good will only help you in the long run.

As a personal example: I was chosen to interview for a very competitive position at the top hospital. I was also planning to apply. At my interview, I was open and honest with the PD and with the MD Director about my intent to apply to medical school, and if I get in, I won't be able to finish the program. I knew that it would unfair to get this position and then leave because another worthy candidate could be chosen and stay the full term.

Obviously, I didn't get the position, but the follow-up email from the PD gave me positive vibes and I know that when residency apps come up, I will have a foot in the door with them....
 
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On a random night back in August, I applied to a forensic assistant position at the coroners office. Fast forward to now, I am interviewing in a couple of days. I will attend for the interview experience, but am wondering if I should mention that I am currently applying to med school. This is my plan B and so far I've only received one II (LizzyM 72 ORM CA res). I really want to increase my chances for this position.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
In case you are asked about your long-term goals, think of another true answer. Like, "Become a boy scout leader, save money for a house, find a life partner and raise a few kids, adopt a dog, . . ."
 
In case you are asked about your long-term goals, think of another true answer. Like, "Become a boy scout leader, save money for a house, find a life partner and raise a few kids, adopt a dog, . . ."
I usually tell them "well I'd hope to get into medical school one day..", they're usually satisfied with that answer and you're not outwardly lying to them.
 
In case you are asked about your long-term goals, think of another true answer. Like, "Become a boy scout leader, save money for a house, find a life partner and raise a few kids, adopt a dog, . . ."
Yeah don't....I usually get hired and "mention it" the first first or second week so I don't blind-side them
I usually tell them "well I'd hope to get into medical school one day..", they're usually satisfied with that answer and you're not outwardly lying to them.

An omission of something this substantive is in fact lying. I disagree completely with this approach...
 
Should you tell? Not it you want the job. Getting into medical school, given the circumstances, is less than 50-50. You could just as easily get married and follow your spouse half-way around the world within the next 8 months-- the only hitch being that you haven't met this person yet. Keep mum... who knows, you could win the lottery (median physician salary for life) and quit your job. You've already bought that lottery ticket, right?
 
It's not uncommon to keep quiet until you get the job, and then gradually make it known or have a conversation at some point. Tons of people have jobs during their gap years. Employers would not be handing out said jobs to people if they knew those people had no intention of sticking around for at least a year. How does that make any sense? Because they keep quiet.

Gap-year jobs are not solely CV boosters for some. People gotta pay bills.
 
Should you tell? Not it you want the job. Getting into medical school, given the circumstances, is less than 50-50. You could just as easily get married and follow your spouse half-way around the world within the next 8 months-- the only hitch being that you haven't met this person yet. Keep mum... who knows, you could win the lottery (median physician salary for life) and quit your job. You've already bought that lottery ticket, right?

As an employer who will be investing time, money, and resources into a long-term hire, I would consider the omission of someone who is applying to medical school this cycle leaving this vital info out at an interview to be an act of bad faith...
 
It's not uncommon to keep quiet until you get the job, and then gradually make it known or have a conversation at some point. Tons of people have jobs during their gap years. Employers would not be handing out said jobs to people if they knew those people had no intention of sticking around for at least a year. How does that make any sense? Because they keep quiet.
Gap-year jobs are not solely CV boosters for some. People gotta pay bills.

A forensic assistant position in a coroner's office, unless I am incorrect, is not akin to a retail/fast-food restaurant job where turnover is high.

Job:

Forensic assistants
work for medical examiners, coroners or forensic pathologists, handling everything from collecting evidence to releasing the body after the completion of the autopsy.
 
An omission of something this substantive is in fact lying. I disagree completely with this approach...

As an employer who will be investing time, money, and resources into a long-term hire, I would consider the omission of someone who is applying to medical school this cycle leaving this vital info out at an interview to be an act of bad faith...
A forensic assistant position in a coroner's office, unless I am incorrect, is not akin to a retail/fast-food restaurant job where turnover is high.

Job:

Forensic assistants
work for medical examiners, coroners or forensic pathologists, handling everything from collecting evidence to releasing the body after the completion of the autopsy.


I admire your moral fibre. Really I do. I'll be over here with the mere mortals.
 
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Have you been accepted to medical school? No? Then don't say anything about it. As LizzyM said, applicants have less than 50% chance of being picked up in any given cycle. Telling a potential employer you're applying to med school is like saying, "I don't actually hold any cards in my hand right now, but you shouldn't hire me because there's a 39% chance that I'll pick up an ace some time in the next several months." This would be asking them to count your chickens before they hatch.
 
I agree with the majority here in that if you want the job then don’t offer up that you’re applying to med school. I see the other side as mentioned by DV-T but you are not obligated to tell them and you have no idea what will happen going forward with the application process. You think the employer is going to be completely loyal and committed to you and keep you around if something changes with the business? No of course not, situations change and if they can’t afford you then you’re gone.

If you had an acceptance in hand and KNEW you were moving away in 3 months then that’s another thing though still, while being kind of a crappy thing to do you’re not obligated to tell.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt this will any way play any role whatsoever years down the road when you’re looking at residency. I read DV-T’s post about their scenario and even though you may have taken the mora high road, please don’t think that that will give you some sort of “foot in the door” when it comes time to apply for residency/fellowship years later. They will have no idea.
 
Have you been accepted to medical school? No? Then don't say anything about it. As LizzyM said, applicants have less than 50% chance of being picked up in any given cycle. Telling a potential employer you're applying to med school is like saying, "I don't actually hold any cards in my hand right now, but you shouldn't hire me because there's a 39% chance that I'll pick up an ace some time in the next several months." This would be asking them to count your chickens before they hatch.
I agree with the majority here in that if you want the job then don’t offer up that you’re applying to med school. I see the other side as mentioned by DV-T but you are not obligated to tell them and you have no idea what will happen going forward with the application process. You think the employer is going to be completely loyal and committed to you and keep you around if something changes with the business? No of course not, situations change and if they can’t afford you then you’re gone.

If you had an acceptance in hand and KNEW you were moving away in 3 months then that’s another thing though still, while being kind of a crappy thing to do you’re not obligated to tell.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt this will any way play any role whatsoever years down the road when you’re looking at residency. I read DV-T’s post about their scenario and even though you may have taken the mora high road, please don’t think that that will give you some sort of “foot in the door” when it comes time to apply for residency/fellowship years later. They will have no idea.

Looks like I am the sole dissenter in this scenario.

Like in law, I have heard through countless SDN posts and other physicians I have talked to over the years that medicine is a small community. Good will generated now can possibly blossom into something in the long term that can far outweigh short term benefits.

GL OP!!!
 
I think it's important to mention it, so that they are well aware that you may need to take potential days off in the future. I made it pretty clear early on to my employers and it made taking time off really easy and painless.
 
I think it's important to mention it, so that they are well aware that you may need to take potential days off in the future. I made it pretty clear early on to my employers and it made taking time off really easy and painless.
It is December and OP has had one interview. It is not as if there will be the need for many days off between now and next September, or even September 2019 if OP takes the advice of skipping a cycle before reapplying.

Seriously, this guy needs a job. If he goes around stating that he hopes to have the good fortune of being selected for a very competitive training program but it is not a sure thing, he might get hired but he might scare off some employers. His top priority should be getting a job because in all likelihood, he'll be left empty handed this summer if he doesn't get hired.
 
Do you tell medical school committees you plan on applying for a forensic job in the future?

Think.
 
It is December and OP has had one interview. It is not as if there will be the need for many days off between now and next September, or even September 2019 if OP takes the advice of skipping a cycle before reapplying.

Seriously, this guy needs a job. If he goes around stating that he hopes to have the good fortune of being selected for a very competitive training program but it is not a sure thing, he might get hired but he might scare off some employers. His top priority should be getting a job because in all likelihood, he'll be left empty handed this summer if he doesn't get hired.
This.
I screwed myself out of a $22/hour job by telling the interviewer that I am applying for med school. Didn't get in that year and didn't get the job. When my connect asked the employer why I wasn't hired, the employer's exact response was that he's going to invest time and money into my training just so I can jump ship in a year.
 
This.
I screwed myself out of a $22/hour job by telling the interviewer that I am applying for med school. Didn't get in that year and didn't get the job. When my connect asked the employer why I wasn't hired, the employer's exact response was that he's going to invest time and money into my training just so I can jump ship in a year.

what job?
 
Contrary to other posters: I told the dialysis clinic I worked at up front that I was applying and hoping to go. They were glad to have someone passionate about learning and working with patients, they gave me amazing opportunities to get involved in community health and education, and they have offered to allow me to do research with them as I go through school. I’m also working on setting up an away rotation down the road.

So it’s not always the worst thing to be honest.
 
Contrary to other posters: I told the dialysis clinic I worked at up front that I was applying and hoping to go. They were glad to have someone passionate about learning and working with patients, they gave me amazing opportunities to get involved in community health and education, and they have offered to allow me to do research with them as I go through school. I’m also working on setting up an away rotation down the road.

So it’s not always the worst thing to be honest.

If the job is a clinical/hospital job, then this might work.

If the job is any other job, this won't work.
 
Employers do not tell their employees if they are planning on letting them go. Therefore employees have no obligation tell their bosses they might eventually be leaving

In my case, at the end of the day, I need a job to survive and am not going to sabotage myself to uphold some twisted idea of moral superiority
 
some twisted idea of moral superiority

There is nothing twisted about doing the right thing. Nowadays peeps will justify and rationalize anything.

OP is applying for a forensic assistant position that will require, I surmise, extensive training to collect and safeguard evidence in a crime. The evidence will be used by prosecutors to put people in prison, taking away their freedom.

Consider the consequences...
 
It’s a job. If they ask you if you are applying to medical school right now: answer yes. If they don’t ask you if you are applying to medical school you just keep your mouth shut. Don’t lie but don’t divulge information that isn’t asked. To anyone who thinks otherwise, how many job interviews did you walk into and list all the reasons why the employer should NOT employee you? How many times did you list all your faults, problems, and things wrong with you without even being asked about those things? That’s what I thought.
 
OP is applying for a forensic assistant position that will require, I surmise, extensive training to collect and safeguard evidence in a crime. The evidence will be used by prosecutors to put people in prison, taking away their freedom.

Consider the consequences...
It's a clerical job where OP can easily be replaced.
 
There is nothing twisted about doing the right thing. Nowadays peeps will justify and rationalize anything.

Ha! My mother made this rationalization when getting hired as a nurse in 1953 while my dad was in the Navy. The hospital was near a naval base and, as predicted, my mom was trained in a specific unit and then left after my father was discharged from the service. It's nothing new.

OP is applying for a forensic assistant position that will require, I surmise, extensive training to collect and safeguard evidence in a crime. The evidence will be used by prosecutors to put people in prison, taking away their freedom.

Consider the consequences...


One of my sibs worked for awhile in a medical examiner's office. The job included fetching bodies from the scene, driving them to the morgue for autopsy, and doing the lugging and heavy lifting. At the time, the kid had a HS diploma and had worked awhile as an orderly and a morgue attendant in a hospital.

The situations he faced were not always crime investigations but included vehicle crashes (motorcycles, cars, small planes) drownings, drug overdoses, house fires, exposure. He learned by doing. If it was a crime scene, the police would be there and would release the body to him after they'd gathered their evidence.

In most employment situations, the employee is not under contract and can be let go at any time without cause. Likewise, the employee can walk at any time, generally with a couple weeks notice. Should the employer be obligated to disclose that funding is precarious and the gov't budget might be slashed resulting in layoffs next August? do you think that most employers would, or would not?

If this applicant already had an offer of admission and was slated to matriculate in August 2018, it would be fair to expect him to say so in an interview. However, given the long shot of being admitted in this cycle, the job candidate IMO can safely keep to himself that he's hoping to go to med school next year (or be selected to play a role on Broadway or win the lottery and move to Tahiti).
 
Well, we will just have to agree to disagree. I practiced what I preach in post #6 and I stand by my decision that I did the right thing based on my beliefs, experience, and value system.

To each their own...
 
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I think ethical questions are all well and good, but people need to eat. I can’t think of a situation where I’d want to hire someone who I know will leave in six months, BUT we are talking about OP’s well-being here. OP, if you can find a job where it’s no biggie to jump ship after 6 months and still be financially stable, then great. If you can’t, then you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
thank you all for your feedback! Ill just do my best and try land this job. I think it will be a good learning experience. As of now, I am a part-time receptionist for a private practice and living at home. So $ isn't a big problem.
 
thank you all for your feedback! Ill just do my best and try land this job. I think it will be a good learning experience. As of now, I am a part-time receptionist for a private practice and living at home. So $ isn't a big problem.
If money isn’t a concern, then why bother with the job? Being a receptionist vs. a coroner’s assistant is not going to be a deal breaker for an application to Med school. Apply in 6 months if the job is still open and you don’t get into Med school.
 
I had faculty (that are involved with admissions) at UCLA tell me they wouldn't hire me for a job unless I "promised" not to apply to medical school for at least two years.
Screw them.
They don't care about you. Just cheap labor while making sure their son and daughter gets their resume padded with BS volunteer positions set up via their friends so they can apply ASAP. I ended up working at another medical center in LA and that's all I saw. Nepotism at its finest.
 
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