Should I quit work to study for MCAT?

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Good evening SDN fam,

I am 23 years old, and I recently graduated and accepted a job as an Ophthalmic Technician. I have been working for 4 months now, and this job allows me plenty of patient care experiences and a good hourly salary. Now I have not started studying for the MCAT, but I am aiming on applying this cycle, 6-7 months from now. I have realized that working here full time and MCAT is not possible. My company only allows full time workers. I also desire to retake Genetics, a course in which I received a C in back in senior year.
**My stats (3.6 cum 3.43 science as of now with plenty of other work and shadowing experiences)
**I am crushed to leave work, because everyone at work is great and have involved so much time into my training, but of course my path to medical school is much more important.

Now, with all this, I plan on asking my manager for one of the 2 requests:

1. Ask for part time, study MCAT and work part time (but I feel like it still might not be enough time to study cause I am very weak in my science knowledge) (SKIP taking the 1 science course)

2. Ask for semester off, with high possibility of getting fired, and study Full time MCAT, with 1 science course retake.

Thanks in advance fam

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I’d ask for part time first, if you’re good they may be willing to make an arrangement. If not you’re no worse off than if you just quit for a semester per your second option.
 
You can do it while working 40 hrs/week if you give yourself a long period to study, like say 12-15 weeks. Not really any different than studying for it while doing a full college credit load + ECs, which is common.
 
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Depends on what your goals are really. If you want MD, you might need to take some time off to really master MCAT topics and get a 515+ (since your GPA is on the lower end).
But, if you're okay with DO, you should be able able to manage a solid enough score (505-510) by just studying before/after work, during lunch breaks, and on your days off.
I wouldn't retake the genetics course btw, but thats just me.
Agree with other posters....studying fewer hours per day and for a longer period of time will be better for you than studying 10hrs a day for 2 months
 
Depends on what your goals are really. If you want MD, you might need to take some time off to really master MCAT topics and get a 515+ (since your GPA is on the lower end).
But, if you're okay with DO, you should be able able to manage a solid enough score (505-510) by just studying before/after work, during lunch breaks, and on your days off.
I wouldn't retake the genetics course btw, but thats just me.
Agree with other posters....studying fewer hours per day and for a longer period of time will be better for you than studying 10hrs a day for 2 months
gotcha so as for as for the genetics course, it would only bring my science GPA up by 0.03 points but will bring me closer to a 3.5 or even at 3.5 if I took 2 science courses in the summer along with showing schools that I have worked on improving my mistakes ya kno..... Since money is not a problem right now, using this chance to KILL the mcat and take a science course is what I felt would be ideal ya know??
 
Good evening SDN fam,

I am 23 years old, and I recently graduated and accepted a job as an Ophthalmic Technician. I have been working for 4 months now, and this job allows me plenty of patient care experiences and a good hourly salary. Now I have not started studying for the MCAT, but I am aiming on applying this cycle, 6-7 months from now. I have realized that working here full time and MCAT is not possible. My company only allows full time workers. I also desire to retake Genetics, a course in which I received a C in back in senior year.
**My stats (3.6 cum 3.43 science as of now with plenty of other work and shadowing experiences)
**I am crushed to leave work, because everyone at work is great and have involved so much time into my training, but of course my path to medical school is much more important.

Now, with all this, I plan on asking my manager for one of the 2 requests:

1. Ask for part time, study MCAT and work part time (but I feel like it still might not be enough time to study cause I am very weak in my science knowledge) (SKIP taking the 1 science course)

2. Ask for semester off, with high possibility of getting fired, and study Full time MCAT, with 1 science course retake.

Thanks in advance fam

Try for plan #1 first. Honestly with a test date several months out it is possible to study a bit each night and be successful as long as you stick to your schedule every day. That's what I did and I scored well on my exam.

If they don't let you do part time I'd put in your two weeks and leave. MCAT and getting a good grade in that class are more important. You can and should also add a volunteering experience if this is the case.

good luck op
 
Try for plan #1 first. Honestly with a test date several months out it is possible to study a bit each night and be successful as long as you stick to your schedule every day. That's what I did and I scored well on my exam.

If they don't let you do part time I'd put in your two weeks and leave. MCAT and getting a good grade in that class are more important. You can and should also add a volunteering experience if this is the case.

good luck op
Do you think sacrificing to not being able to retake Genetics, a class in which I received a C in, will be worth it if part time somehow works out?
 
gotcha so as for as for the genetics course, it would only bring my science GPA up by 0.03 points but will bring me closer to a 3.5 or even at 3.5 if I took 2 science courses in the summer along with showing schools that I have worked on improving my mistakes ya kno..... Since money is not a problem right now, using this chance to KILL the mcat and take a science course is what I felt would be ideal ya know??

Ahh, I didn't realize that you had a very stable financial situation. That changes things.

Work part time, as few hours as you can, and go ham for your mcat ASAP. Wreck that thing.

IF you cannot work part-time (because they will fire you), work for 2-3 more months so you can put it on your app and then quit. You can still get great clinical exposure through volunteering (try a free clinic, hospital, or hospice).

Since you don't sound like you need to work for a living, make sure your main priority is your MCAT/GPA.

I don't see the value in retaking a course...take a different genetics course if you can
 
Do you think sacrificing to not being able to retake Genetics, a class in which I received a C in, will be worth it if part time somehow works out?

I would only retake genetics if you feel like you need to be taught the material to succeed on the MCAT. That C definitely wont sink your grade and now that DO schools don't do grade replacement it doesn't make a lot of sense. I had retaken 8 credits, replacing Cs with As, but now I just have 8 credits of B which really didn't improve my GPAs at all. If it were me, I would work part time while studying, especially if youre enjoying your work. being employed while studying to get a good MCAT score actually will be noticed by adcoms and will help you.
 
Ahh, I didn't realize that you had a very stable financial situation. That changes things.

Work part time, as few hours as you can, and go ham for your mcat ASAP. Wreck that thing.

IF you cannot work part-time (because they will fire you), work for 2-3 more months so you can put it on your app and then quit. You can still get great clinical exposure through volunteering (try a free clinic, hospital, or hospice).

Since you don't sound like you need to work for a living, make sure your main priority is your MCAT/GPA.

I don't see the value in retaking a course...take a different genetics course if you can
OK that is what I am thinking as well! I started early August... do u think working up to January 16th would be decent to include on Med School Apps? And if I quit january 16th for the class, what would be a good time to inform her about my leave? She is super nice and I want to give her time to find someone to replace ya know :/ ?
 
OK that is what I am thinking as well! I started early August... do u think working up to January 16th would be decent to include on Med School Apps? And if I quit january 16th for the class, what would be a good time to inform her about my leave? She is super nice and I want to give her time to find someone to replace ya know :/ ?
Let them know that January 1st day right after the new year begins on Monday. If you don't have work that day then Tuesday, January 2nd. That is 2 weeks time (2 week notice).
 
Why can’t you work and study at the same time? If you only work 40hr a week, there’s plenty of time left to study
 
I was working full time, taking a full time course load, and volunteering one day a week while I was preparing for the MCAT. I took it three days after my biochem final and I did fine (515).

I see no reason you can't work full time and retake your genetics class, plus study for the MCAT. It's just full time plus just one class. Besides, you'll need the money for application fees in the near future...
 
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Let them know that January 1st day right after the new year begins on Monday. If you don't have work that day then Tuesday, January 2nd. That is 2 weeks time (2 week notice).[/
She granted me 1 full week off for a wedding, dec 11 to 15. You don’t think i should ask her before that so that she doesn’t think I used her for PTO and gets even more mad?


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Let them know that January 1st day right after the new year begins on Monday. If you don't have work that day then Tuesday, January 2nd. That is 2 weeks time (2 week notice).

She granted me 1 week off dec 11 to 15 for a wedding trip, you don’t think I should tell her before that, in case she doesn’t think I waited to use PTO, then bailed. I feel very guilty with this whole situation bc I started 4 months ago... what do you think?


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You're competing against others who are treating the MCAT like a full-time job. Hence, if you do not do the same you will be at a disadvantage.
 
You're competing against others who are treating the MCAT like a full-time job. Hence, if you do not do the same you will be at a disadvantage.

That’s a terrible way to look at it. I also worked full time on top of full course work and did the MCAT. Got a 514 and accepted at Top10. ORM. MCAT is not everything and you don’t need to take time off to study for the exam.
 
That’s a terrible way to look at it. I also worked full time on top of full course work and did the MCAT. Got a 514 and accepted at Top10. ORM. MCAT is not everything and you don’t need to take time off to study for the exam.


That's great and everything and I am happy you got into a top 10 as an ORM. The OP is able to take the time off, thus if he wants to put himself the in the best position to score well, he should quit his job and focus on the exam.
 
That's great and everything and I am happy you got into a top 10 as an ORM. The OP is able to take the time off, thus if he wants to put himself the in the best position to score well, he should quit his job and focus on the exam.

I think there is a efficient way to study for standardized exams like MCAT without compromising the score. I am just saying you don’t need to take a course or take time off to study if you study efficiently with the right strategies and still get a good score. It seems to me that OP doesn’t want to take time off unless absolutely necessary. There always going to be exams (Steps, shelf exam), you can’t just take time off to study for shelf exams while you’re in rotation. Might as well take the chance now to figure out how to maximize your studying.

Application is also expensive. But if money is not an issue for OP, then by all means take the time off. I’m just saying you can do it without having to take time off and it might be in your best interest in the long run.
 
Also I don’t think “competition against others” is the healthy way to approach applications. While I understand the realistic aspects of the application process, IMO it should be about the “best version of yourself you can possibly be and having a compelling story of why you want to be a physician and the challenges you had to overcome” rather than “be better than everyone else.” I don’t think it’s inherently a process of competition but rather it’s about “fit.” If you are a good fit to be a physician or for a particular medical school, it should show through in the things you do, whether it’s volunteering a lot in your free time or spending time with patients in nursing homes. It’s about you being true to yourself and do the things you want to do and going through this process and finding out if this career and the people is a good fit for you. if you are doing things just because other people are or medical school favorably look at certain things and not because you are genuinely curious and interested, chances are even if you get in, you would be miserable. Is it worth it at the end, to spend so much time and money and to end up miserable? Just do what you can within reasonable means to show your interest and commitment to medicine.
 
gotcha so as for as for the genetics course, it would only bring my science GPA up by 0.03 points but will bring me closer to a 3.5 or even at 3.5 if I took 2 science courses in the summer along with showing schools that I have worked on improving my mistakes ya kno..... Since money is not a problem right now, using this chance to KILL the mcat and take a science course is what I felt would be ideal ya know??
Remember that retaking a course doesn't replace your original grade, so you're better of taking a different course - same effect on your GPA and it shows you can handle a wide variety of subjects. I'd look for work that is part-time; 6-7 months of full-time MCAT prep would probably lead to burning out.
 
what would be a good time to inform her about my leave? She is super nice and I want to give her time to find someone to replace ya know :/ ?
Two weeks is the unstated "professional" rule of thumb, but if you are not worried about being out of work earlier than expected, I'd give a longer notice. Who knows, maybe that would create enough good will that she'd agree to let you go part time, or would hire you back afterward. I would explain now that you'd love to stay and that you love your work there but that you will need to take a short break to study for the MCAT, and ask if it's possible for you to get a two-month leave. She might well prefer to go a short time without having you on staff than to incur the expense of training someone new.
 
This thread was TL;DR, but as someone who worked full-time while studying for the MCAT, I can tell you that it's doable but miserable. You said that your company only allows full-time workers right? I did see someone mention 12-15 weeks as being a "longer" period to study while working full-time, and this just isn't true at all. Most people who study full-time are studying 3-4 months aka 12-16 weeks. If you're working full time then closer to 5-6 months is realistic. If you would like my approach as I studied while working full-time (I got a 508 so not great for SDN standards but was accepted), you can PM me.
 
Two weeks is the unstated "professional" rule of thumb, but if you are not worried about being out of work earlier than expected, I'd give a longer notice. Who knows, maybe that would create enough good will that she'd agree to let you go part time, or would hire you back afterward. I would explain now that you'd love to stay and that you love your work there but that you will need to take a short break to study for the MCAT, and ask if it's possible for you to get a two-month leave. She might well prefer to go a short time without having you on staff than to incur the expense of training someone new.

I was considering asking for a full semester + summer off in general. I feel like retaking my C and 2 other science courses in summer + having lots of MCAT time is crucial for my application right now. So schools will not see the science change from 3.43 to 3.5 until i update my GPA after summer but they will see 3.43 to 3.46 with an early application. Yes, it will suck for the management but I’d rather have them know now then only 2 weeks in advance where it would give “2 week notice vibes”. I know there is a great chance of getting laid off but in the long run I’m putting myself at a much better situation for my application with always a Chance to be re-hired again in August. I think I need to be honest with her. This was a vent. BUT WHAT DO U THINK?


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I was considering asking for a full semester + summer off in general. I feel like retaking my C and 2 other science courses in summer + having lots of MCAT time is crucial for my application right now. So schools will not see the science change from 3.43 to 3.5 until i update my GPA after summer but they will see 3.43 to 3.46 with an early application. Yes, it will suck for the management but I’d rather have them know now then only 2 weeks in advance where it would give “2 week notice vibes”. I know there is a great chance of getting laid off but in the long run I’m putting myself at a much better situation for my application with always a Chance to be re-hired again in August. I think I need to be honest with her. This was a vent. BUT WHAT DO U THINK?

If you're asking for 6-7 months off after working for only 4 months, then asking for a leave no longer makes sense, and I'd suggest you resign with as much notice as you can, saying that you would love to come back later if possible. Be prepared for your employer to wonder why you didn't see this coming. As for your GPAs: those increases are not large enough to make a difference, especially if they're not going to show up in your AMCAS-calculated GPA. Scoring a point or two higher on the MCAT would matter a lot more. If you think your coursework would interfere with MCAT prep, then don't risk it. Only you know how you study best. If six months of nothing but MCAT prep works for you, then go for it, especially if you can afford the time off from work.
 
Good evening SDN fam,

I am 23 years old, and I recently graduated and accepted a job as an Ophthalmic Technician. I have been working for 4 months now, and this job allows me plenty of patient care experiences and a good hourly salary. Now I have not started studying for the MCAT, but I am aiming on applying this cycle, 6-7 months from now. I have realized that working here full time and MCAT is not possible. My company only allows full time workers. I also desire to retake Genetics, a course in which I received a C in back in senior year.
**My stats (3.6 cum 3.43 science as of now with plenty of other work and shadowing experiences)
**I am crushed to leave work, because everyone at work is great and have involved so much time into my training, but of course my path to medical school is much more important.

Now, with all this, I plan on asking my manager for one of the 2 requests:

1. Ask for part time, study MCAT and work part time (but I feel like it still might not be enough time to study cause I am very weak in my science knowledge) (SKIP taking the 1 science course)

2. Ask for semester off, with high possibility of getting fired, and study Full time MCAT, with 1 science course retake.

Thanks in advance fam
I worked full-time while I studied for the MCAT. You just need to be able to use time wisely and be very disciplined. You also need to realize you will have no life for the next 2-3 months as you study and work. It sucked but it is what I did.
 
I think it depends on how disciplined you are and how well you think you can master the material in the amount of time you have. That being said, working full time and studying for the MCAT can be done. I was working 40+ hours a week and studying after work for a 2-3 months. Managed to pull off a 515-520 score.
 
I quit my job to study for the MCAT which I'm taking in January, after attempting to balance work and studying for about two months. I found out that doing both on top of several other variables in my life made this challenge extremely difficult. Since quitting: AAMC Sample 85%, NS FL1 512 and I'm still 7.5 weeks out. The change in quality of progress has been profound.
 
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I studied for the MCAT while working close to full time-- I cut back from 40 hours to ~32 hours per week. I spread my studying out for 6 months to give myself adequate time, and scored around 520.

Was it fun? No. Is studying for the MCAT ever fun? Probably not. I was a college athlete + premed back in the day, so I was very used to studying with limited time and being efficient. Plus, I was able to keep my job and rack up some major clinical hours. Don't be afraid to go for it and reassess partway in- if it's not working for you, drop hours.
 
I cut back from 40 hours to ~32 hours per week
Congrats on the 520!
I will say that having to partition my day can likewise make me a lot more efficient, so long as I have a good 5-6 chunk for MCAT. I've had full-time jobs that were 40 hours, and full-time jobs that were 80+ hours - definitely couldn't study and work "full time" if I were spending more than 40 hrs/wk at work. Hats off to the people who can do that.
I'm signed up for a retake next spring and will be working 25-30 hours in Jan and Feb, then taking off March. Hopefully that will give me enough structure to be efficient, but leave enough time to dig into things. Fingers crossed even harder that I won't actually have to retake...
 
Congrats on the 520!
I will say that having to partition my day can likewise make me a lot more efficient, so long as I have a good 5-6 chunk for MCAT. I've had full-time jobs that were 40 hours, and full-time jobs that were 80+ hours - definitely couldn't study and work "full time" if I were spending more than 40 hrs/wk at work. Hats off to the people who can do that.
I'm signed up for a retake next spring and will be working 25-30 hours in Jan and Feb, then taking off March. Hopefully that will give me enough structure to be efficient, but leave enough time to dig into things. Fingers crossed even harder that I won't actually have to retake...

Good luck friend! I ended up studying around 30-35 hours per week. I worked four 8 hour days, so on those days I would do 1.5 hours before work and 2 hours after. On non-work days I averaged between 6-8 hours. Anything more than 8 hours and my brain was a useless blob.
 
I studied Psychology for about 1.5 months, did a Master's in which I covered every in the bio section (except for Orgo), didn't study for bio at all and instead focused on psych, chem, and phys....got a 518. No matter what you do, as long as you put in a sincere effort, you will get the score you deserve. Do lots of practice probs!!!
 
Worked part time took a full coarse load while also doing research. 90%+ MCAT score. There is no need to quit a job to prepare for the MCAT, you just need to have decent time management skills.
 
There is no need to quit a job to prepare for the MCAT
Clearly no need for *you* to quit your job, and congrats on the good score. Everyone studies differently, though. If OP thinks it will help to give 100% focus to MCAT prep and has the resources to not work, then I'd say go for it. Taking a short break for MCAT prep isn't going to tank anyone's application, imo, whereas an extra point or two on the MCAT could help a whole lot. I certainly wish I could quit my dumb job right this minute and do nothing but study. 🙂
 
The more I think about this, the more I wonder how it would look to adcoms if someone did decide to quit working to study for the MCAT and got asked about it during interviews. Would it be interpreted as dedication to success, assuming the person did well, or would it show a total inability to multitask and make adcoms think the applicant can't handle stress well?
 
To me on the surface it sounds like the definition of a privileged applicant who can quit work and study, somehow have the bills and rent still paid, and then apply.

How does my 514 while working full time compare to the same score achieved by a person who had no other obligations? Perhaps it is noticed by Adcoms and taken into account, but perhaps also it is an example of disparity that is inherent with the MCAT.
 
To me on the surface it sounds like the definition of a privileged applicant who can quit work and study, somehow have the bills and rent still paid, and then apply.

How does my 514 while working full time compare to the same score achieved by a person who had no other obligations? Perhaps it is noticed by Adcoms and taken into account, but perhaps also it is an example of disparity that is inherent with the MCAT.

This is why Adcoms look at the entire application and not just the score. You will be at an advantage when you take your boards and have amazing time management skills compared to the other students who might have had a silver spoon their entire lives.
 
To me on the surface it sounds like the definition of a privileged applicant who can quit work and study, somehow have the bills and rent still paid, and then apply.

How does my 514 while working full time compare to the same score achieved by a person who had no other obligations? Perhaps it is noticed by Adcoms and taken into account, but perhaps also it is an example of disparity that is inherent with the MCAT.
It probably depends on your stage of life, e.g., as a late-career-changer, I could more easily afford six weeks off. It also depends on what kind of work you're doing. My work has unfortunately nothing to do with science or medicine, so it always took a while to get from work-head to MCAT-head.
 
This is why Adcoms look at the entire application and not just the score. You will be at an advantage when you take your boards and have amazing time management skills compared to the other students who might have had a silver spoon their entire lives.
Of course there are a lot of points in between, and the two aren't mutually exclusive. I've heard of plenty of people of all backgrounds planning ahead and saving up to take off 3-4 weeks before the test. It's an important day, I can see adcoms approving of giving it really high priority. Also don't most med schools give dedicated time for the Steps?
 
Of course there are a lot of points in between, and the two aren't mutually exclusive. I've heard of plenty of people of all backgrounds planning ahead and saving up to take off 3-4 weeks before the test. It's an important day, I can see adcoms approving of giving it really high priority. Also don't most med schools give dedicated time for the Steps?

People who are privileged (myself included) can afford to not work at all, receive tutoring, etc. No matter how you slice it, having resources that others don't have will give you an advantage. I was able to undertake a Master's program that my parents paid for and never had to work once, which allowed me to focus on other weaknesses in my application, like research and volunteering.

Yeah you get time off for Steps, but the skills/stamina someone gains from having to work a job and study for the MCAT will carry over. I have a lot of respect for people who had to work through their journey to medical school.
 
The more I think about this, the more I wonder how it would look to adcoms if someone did decide to quit working to study for the MCAT and got asked about it during interviews. Would it be interpreted as dedication to success, assuming the person did well, or would it show a total inability to multitask and make adcoms think the applicant can't handle stress well?

Honestly, if i’m an ADCOM and I see a large chunk of unaccounted for time in the application (3-6 months) just to study for MCAT, I would call into question the applicant’s ability to multitask, prioritizing, time management and etc. and there’s plenty of other applicants who get just as high a score without taking time off.
 
People who are privileged (myself included) can afford to not work at all, receive tutoring, etc. No matter how you slice it, having resources that others don't have will give you an advantage. I was able to undertake a Master's program that my parents paid for and never had to work once, which allowed me to focus on other weaknesses in my application, like research and volunteering.

Yeah you get time off for Steps, but the skills/stamina someone gains from having to work a job and study for the MCAT will carry over. I have a lot of respect for people who had to work through their journey to medical school.
Yeah, I don't disagree with any of this. For sure being raised with privilege can afford you the option of more time off, but I don't think the reverse is necessarily true - lots of people plan ahead and save their own funds for it. It sounded like you were implying that anyone taking time off = spoiled rich kid, so that's what I was responding to. Also, plenty of people with privilege also work their butts off and have great time management skills. And lots of people without privilege don't. I guess I just hate stereotypes. Everyone is different, and the MCAT score is the single most important element in most people's applications, so I would rather risk revealing my privilege than scoring lower than I would if I didn't take off all the time I could afford, especially if my hard work and ability to multitask shows in other parts of my app.
 
Clearly no need for *you* to quit your job, and congrats on the good score. Everyone studies differently, though. If OP thinks it will help to give 100% focus to MCAT prep and has the resources to not work, then I'd say go for it. Taking a short break for MCAT prep isn't going to tank anyone's application, imo, whereas an extra point or two on the MCAT could help a whole lot. I certainly wish I could quit my dumb job right this minute and do nothing but study. 🙂

I agree, people with crappy time management skills probably should just study.
 
Not sure how the discussion on MCAT prep shifted to privilege rants. Back on topic, a lot of people say to treat the MCAT as if it were a fulltime job for 3-6 months, which suggests that you should quit working and invest all your time into MCAT study. I think this is irrational and frankly an overkill. It’s possible to score a 510 by studying 2-3 hours per day on weekdays and saving the weekends for practice exams and review. But if you want to aim higher (say a 520+), this becomes a lot harder since you need to understand the nuances of the exam and sharpen your test taking skills. But you don’t need 3 months of fulltime prep for this. You just need to study efficiently.

So yeah I definitely think it’s possible to study for the MCAT and do well while working fulltime. But I’m not going to judge those who decided to take time off to study fulltime.
 
Not sure how the discussion on MCAT prep shifted to privilege rants.
We're talking about how taking time off might look to adcoms. Not really ranting, though. Not sure why it's such an SDN thing to be so needlessly inflammatory - it gives this site such a bad rap, when there really is a lot of useful information and supportive community here.
 
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