Simple reflexes = Fixed action pattern or no?

[FROGGBUSTER]

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Kaplan says no, Destroyer says yes.

Kaplan: "Fixed action patterns are complex, coordinated, innate behavioral responses to specific stimulations in the environment. These responses are controlled from all levels of the CNS. "

Destroyer: "Simple reflexes are the simplest kind of FAP."

Who to believe?

 

[nondescriptive]

No. FAP is "complex". Simple reflex is not "complex", as the name implies.

 

[FROGGBUSTER]

No. FAP is "complex". Simple reflex is not "complex", as the name implies.

Thank you.

 

[mh0000]

I would say that a simple reflex can very well be a fixed action pattern. A simple reflex is not necessary a "simple" mechanistic reflex in terms of complexity of synapses. A simple reflex is an innate and does not require learning. A fixed action pattern is also innate. A FAP also is usually carried out to completion, in which many simple reflexes also do.

 

[nondescriptive]

I would say that a simple reflex can very well be a fixed action pattern. A simple reflex is not necessary a "simple" mechanistic reflex in terms of complexity of synapses. A simple reflex is an innate and does not require learning. A fixed action pattern is also innate. A FAP also is usually carried out to completion, in which many simple reflexes also do.

Disagree, although it is a point of contention. This is how I remember it: