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[Iatro]

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So how many people smoke on a regular basis? I just picked it up traveling to different countries.

 

[acceptmeplease]

I've seen enough COPD exacerbations, strokes, and MIs. There are much more interesting things to pick up abroad that won't kill you.

 

[The Bunk]

You should quit right now before you get too attached to it. I was a smoker for 8 years. It's not worth it.

 

[Captain Sisko]

:troll:

 

[IlDestriero]

So how many people smoke on a regular basis? I just picked it up traveling to different countries.

Just the poppy. 😉

 

[AdrianVeidt]

Pretty sure those who quit smoking by 30 have the same long term health outlook as non-smokers.

So smoke up until you hit the big 3-0! Then quit.

 

[Birdie89]

Your poor cilia!!

 

[HopefulSlav]

I saw my two grandparents deteriorate in front of me because of smoking. Save your money and put it towards an IRA, sailboat or something.

 

[ES2]

Only trees

 

[rudziutki]

I grew up in Italy (lived there until 15), EVERYBODY smoked it seemed. And there wasn't the same stigma attached to it as in the US.

 

[ciestar]

Both my parents smoke regularly and have since their teens.
Let me just say it didn't do me any favors as a child.

 

[Aerus]

Pretty sure those who quit smoking by 30 have the same long term health outlook as non-smokers.

So smoke up until you hit the big 3-0! Then quit.

Source please.

 

[AdrianVeidt]

Source please.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/quitting-smoking-before-40-erases-damage-to-health-1.1304433

google is an amazing thing, people should use it more often

 

[Aerus]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/quitting-smoking-before-40-erases-damage-to-health-1.1304433

google is an amazing thing, people should use it more often

You're missing the point. I wanted to know YOUR source. Of course anyone can easily google something.

The article you cited does not list any data (at least from what I can see). A 5 year difference could be "close". Heck, it's so relative that even a 10 year difference in longevity could be close.

Another thing that this article doesn't highlight is that the risk is significantly higher. Death rates, while similar, doesn't address this increased risk. There are always outliers, and I'm willing to bet that the chance of developing any form of cardiovascular or respiratory problems is much higher in a person who smoked until age 30, then quit, than in someone who has never smoked.

 

[AlteredScale]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/quitting-smoking-before-40-erases-damage-to-health-1.1304433

google is an amazing thing, people should use it more often

I can't imagine how your patients will respond to something like this.

 

[sinombre]

Pretty sure those who quit smoking by 30 have the same long term health outlook as non-smokers.

So smoke up until you hit the big 3-0! Then quit.

Uh, no. Wait until you have to study cancer genetics in medical school.

 

[boboyahoo]

Let me tell you guys something. Since I started college, I have been getting asthmatic attacks being around smokers. I never came across this situation in high school, but I am seriously sick of having people smoke in non-smoking areas. It kills us second smokers that do not want to smoke. Does it not ring in the minds that not only is it that you are affected, but it is also innocent people who want to live healthy? There is already enough pollution I go through in my life. Smoking is a personal decision, but I find it ironic when those same people head to medicine trying to claim that they want to save people. Take care of your health, medicine is a tough haul already that will take a toll on your health enough. Just having parents in their 50s handle it doesn't mean that they are "handling it good". It means that the results are due soon on how much health defects they have, you just have to wait.

 

[Aerus]

Let me tell you guys something. Since I started college, I have been getting asthmatic attacks being around smokers. I never came across this situation in high school, but I am seriously sick of having people smoke in non-smoking areas. It kills us second smokers that do not want to smoke. Does it not ring in the minds that not only is it that you are affected, but it is also innocent people who want to live healthy?

👍👍👍👍👍

Cannot agree more with the quoted. I saw someone smoking by a vent that allowed fresh air to enter an otherwise poorly ventilated building. REALLY? The sign said "NO SMOKING! AIR VENT NEARBY."

 

[AdrianVeidt]

You're missing the point. I wanted to know YOUR source. Of course anyone can easily google something.

The article you cited does not list any data (at least from what I can see). A 5 year difference could be "close". Heck, it's so relative that even a 10 year difference in longevity could be close.

Another thing that this article doesn't highlight is that the risk is significantly higher. Death rates, while similar, doesn't address this increased risk. There are always outliers, and I'm willing to bet that the chance of developing any form of cardiovascular or respiratory problems is much higher in a person who smoked until age 30, then quit, than in someone who has never smoked.

That's a news article, if you would like the actual data use your school's library source to look up the author.

There is risk in everything, even breathing this beautiful free American air. You can get lung cancer without smoking a day in your life.

I can't imagine how your patients will respond to something like this.

I'll let you know in 4 years if you remind me by then.

Uh, no. Wait until you have to study cancer genetics in medical school.

Don't tell me no, but feel free to contact those researchers and tell them their study is invalid because of what you read in medical school.

 

[AlteredScale]

That's a news article, if you would like the actual data use your school's library source to look up the author.

There is risk in everything, even breathing this beautiful free American air. You can get lung cancer without smoking a day in your life.

I'll let you know in 4 years if you remind me by then.


Don't tell me no, but feel free to contact those researchers and tell them their study is invalid because of what you read in medical school.

Where are you matriculating?

I'm sure you shall receive a lot of these in 4 years if you keep up with your great attitude!

 

[AdrianVeidt]

Where are you matriculating?

I'm sure you shall receive a lot of these in 4 years if you keep up with your great attitude!

Not sure yet, acceptances don't go out until mid October. So I guess 5 years from now you'll have to remind me.

But I highly doubt anyone is going to slap me because I present them a scientific study that says quitting smoking is good for you.

 

[AlteredScale]

Not sure yet, acceptances don't go out until mid October. So I guess 5 years from now you'll have to remind me.

But I highly doubt anyone is going to slap me because I present them a scientific study that says quitting smoking is good for you.

 

[AdrianVeidt]

"Those that quit by age 40 avoid about 90 per cent of the risk of continuing to smoke," said study author Dr. Prabhat Jha, head of the Centre for Global Health Research at St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto.

lol come on, give it up young man. Your GIFs are amusing though

 

[Aerus]

That's a news article, if you would like the actual data use your school's library source to look up the author.

But it seems like you ONLY read this and then took it at face value. News articles hide a lot of stuff to make things appear "juicy" without technically lying.

There is risk in everything, even breathing this beautiful free American air. You can get lung cancer without smoking a day in your life.

I never said nothing had risks. I said "higher risk". I think we can all agree that a person who smokes until they are 30 carries a much higher risk than a non smoker.

Your GIFs are amusing though

He's the best. 😀

 

[AdrianVeidt]

But it seems like you ONLY read this and then took it at face value. News articles hide a lot of stuff to make things appear "juicy" without technically lying.

I never said nothing had risks. I said "higher risk". I think we can all agree that a person who smokes until they are 30 carries a much higher risk than a non smoker.

He's the best. 😀

Oh that's not the article I read lol it's just first thing to come up from google search. It's been years since I had to write that public health paper, no way I could tell you the actual source.

 

[AlteredScale]

lol come on, give it up young man. Your GIFs are amusing though

But it's not a scientific study, it's a quote from a health news article!

Just saying!

I get your drift though

 

[AdrianVeidt]

But it's not a scientific study, it's a quote from a health news article!

Just saying!

I get your drift though

Touché

 

[AlteredScale]

But it seems like you ONLY read this and then took it at face value. News articles hide a lot of stuff to make things appear "juicy" without technically lying.



I never said nothing had risks. I said "higher risk". I think we can all agree that a person who smokes until they are 30 carries a much higher risk than a non smoker.



He's the best. 😀

 

[ChemEngMD]

Ain't nobody gonna slap Adrian cause they gonna have to go through me first

 

[AdrianVeidt]

dem boi no wan it

 

[SunsFun]

I am not a smoker and I don't have a problem with second hand smoking. Overwhelming majority of people will go outside to have a cigarette. I really can't see how anyone is bothered by that yet is cool with driving (especially older cars). Those pollute air and the environment altogether much more than smoking does.

 

[AlteredScale]

 

[LuciusVorenus]

That's a news article, if you would like the actual data use your school's library source to look up the author.

There is risk in everything, even breathing this beautiful free American air. You can get lung cancer without smoking a day in your life.

 

[AlteredScale]

 

[KnuxNole]

So how many people smoke on a regular basis? I just picked it up traveling to different countries.

I only smoke fools in the b-ball court 😛

 

[KnuxNole]

That's a news article, if you would like the actual data use your school's library source to look up the author.

There is risk in everything, even breathing this beautiful free American air. You can get lung cancer without smoking a day in your life.

Unless you're in NYC or LA...where the "free air" makes you wanna gag and puke in someone's mouth all day.

 

[deleted407021]

I know some people who picked up the habit when they turned 18 and a year later were totally dependent. Some of the patients who I work with at a need based clinic hack up brown phlegm in between pulls of hot tar filled air. Needless to say I have no desire to pick up such a habit.

 

[Bacchus]

I've seen enough COPD exacerbations, strokes, and MIs. There are much more interesting things to pick up abroad that won't kill you.

Or that will and are cool. Such as meningiococcemia or dengue or malaria or ebola.

 

[acceptmeplease]

Or that will and are cool. Such as meningiococcemia or dengue or malaria or ebola.

Heck, even SARS, but I was going with a more positive, less-likely-to-make-you-meet-your-deductible angle.

I remember the first time I read The Hot Zone; I still want to explore that cave.

 

[Iatro]

So no. Haha.

I find it helps me relieve stress etc. And I'd much rather smoke a cig every once in a while instead of taking some drug which temporarily (weed) or permanently (lots of prescription drugs) messes with your brain and mind.

 

[JaneMarie23]

Unless you're in NYC or LA...where the "free air" makes you wanna gag and puke in someone's mouth all day.

I'm from NYC, this is so true. Disgusting.

 

[acceptmeplease]

So no. Haha.

I find it helps me relieve stress etc. And I'd much rather smoke a cig every once in a while instead of taking some drug which temporarily (weed) or permanently (lots of prescription drugs) messes with your brain and mind.

Or you could come up with positive coping mechanisms to deal with stress. Exercise, including sex, is more beneficial to your long term health than smoking. Also, being a non smoker opens the doors to more people being willing to have sex with you.

 

[Escape_Goat]

OP sounds like a cool dude. All you guys are just jealous.

 

[AdrianVeidt]

Unless you're in NYC or LA...where the "free air" makes you wanna gag and puke in someone's mouth all day.

'Merica tho (I've never been to LA, only been to the really nice parts of NY)

 

[SilentSoldier]

Hey, that cloud of smog that used to be over LA has definitely cleared in recent years. It doesn't cause your eyes to burst into flames anymore

 

[CarlosDanger]

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[LuciusVorenus]

Or you could come up with positive coping mechanisms to deal with stress. Exercise, including sex, is more beneficial to your long term health than smoking. Also, being a non smoker opens the doors to more people being willing to have sex with you.

Why don't I just strap on my sex helmet and squeeze down into a sex cannon and fire off into sex land where sex grows on sexies!

 

[ES2]

So no. Haha.

I find it helps me relieve stress etc. And I'd much rather smoke a cig every once in a while instead of taking some drug which temporarily (weed) or permanently (lots of prescription drugs) messes with your brain and mind.

And how is smoking a cig not "messing" with your brain?

 

[SouthernBelle12]

Pretty sure those who quit smoking by 30 have the same long term health outlook as non-smokers.

So smoke up until you hit the big 3-0! Then quit.

I believe this was what you were referencing.

Conclusion A substantial progressive decrease in the mortality rates among non-smokers over the past half century (due to prevention and improved treatment of disease) has been wholly outweighed, among cigarette smokers, by a progressive increase in the smoker ν non-smoker death rate ratio due to earlier and more intensive use of cigarettes. Among the men born around 1920, prolonged cigarette smoking from early adult life tripled age specific mortality rates, but cessation at age 50 halved the hazard, and cessation at age 30 avoided almost all of it.

Doll R ,Peto R ,Boreham J ,Sutherland I. Mortality in relation to smoking: 50 years' observations on male British doctors. BMJ 2004;328:1519. http://http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7455/1519?tab=citation

SN: This is NOT an endorsement to smoke cigarettes until age 30. Clearly, there are many diseases that smoking is a risk factor for. Just wanted to clarify that AdrianVeidt isn't just pulling epidemiology out of his arse.

 

[deleted407021]

I'd like to know how many med students smoke weed. Its better for you than cigarettes or alcohol, although I guess not as good as sex, but what can you do.

Not at all. Weed is less processed than cigarette tobacco and contains more carcinogens and tar producing compounds. It is much worse for your lungs, not to mention it turns you into a looser if you stay on it long enough. I do agree it's probably less dangerous than alcohol.