So tired of defending myself

[jetproppilot]

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As an aside, I've had plenty of people say "Anesthesia... seems kinda boring." In fact, my dean looked me straight in the eye and said "anesthesia!! Better get a good seat cushion" and he's a geriatric rheumatologist, Oh how the irony burns.

Lvs,

a prophetic post.

Take this to heart the next time your brain tells you "uhhh, dude, theres something wrong with that dude's reply."

 

[miamidc]

its funny that Beck brought up this subject.

two times today I told docs that asked me what I was going into. I told them I matched into anesthesiology. first thing one guy said was they "have a high suicide rate" and the second guy said " you know you better watch out many of the anesthesiologists I know are hooked on stuff like fentanyl, etc...so be careful".

both of these docs were miserable docs who it was apparent, hated doing their jobs. these comments were a clear indication to me that they were basically saying, "fudge, i shoulda gone into anesthesiology".

hahaha

suckas

What docs if you don't mind me asking???

 

[ThinkFast007]

What docs if you don't mind me asking???

IM docs

 

[miamidc]

IM docs

could you give me an idea of who that was without giving names, seeing as that I go to the same school as you, just curious

 

[wcostell]

If you want some encouragement about your decision, just step out into a more community or private setting. I'm currently in Chattanooga, a satellite campus for the University of Tennessee. It is a level 1 trauma center, and has academic attendings, but has a semi-private atmosphere. When I say I'm going to be and Anesthesiologist, all I get is "you're smart," and "I wish someone had told me about that option when I was in school."
Honestly, I'd say we are about as bad as anyone about this. I know I don't pass up an opportunity to burn on my optho comrades about their relegation to a few centimeters of the body, or offer to keep in touch with families of Surg/OBGYN colleagues for them. We won't even get into the gimmes that are internal medicine and peds. So bottom line is, they're jealous. As well they should be. 😛

 

[ThinkFast007]

could you give me an idea of who that was without giving names, seeing as that I go to the same school as you, just curious

pm'd you

 

[powermd]

Anesthesiology doesn't get a lot of respect in academic hospitals because people think it's easy, and we're getting away with something. We don't have a lot of the onerous tasks residents in most other specialties have to do (clinic, lots of call, rounding, notes, prescriptions), and yet when we finish training we are compensated better than most specialties. Since most of our work is cerebral, and we use our procedural skills in front of a very small audience, doctors in other specialties really don't know how much dedication and hard work goes into being a good anesthesiologist. Add to that no one outside anesthesiology knows the difference between an anesthetist, and an anesthesiologist, and it's obvious why respect is hard to come by. Let's not forget there are no TV shows that glamourize our role either.

It's stupid and annoying, but Jet is right.

Just when you're getting really angry about a comment made disparaging anesthesiology, ask yourself if this person or their opinion will make any difference to your life 5-10 years from now... it's a little easier to roll with the punches once you see it in that perspective. I would add to the comments made earlier by (I believe) Chicamedica about educating other physicians: teach them by your example. Be a great physician in the privacy of your OR, but be an even better one publicly (in the ASU/PACU, on the ward, at a code). It hard to make fun of an entire field when you respect the individuals who practice the specialty.

 

[Sammich81]

And although I am a devoted Grey's anatomy fan, DAMN! The anesthesiologist is always either drunk in the OR or walking out on the case. Boooo on that.

 

[mysophobe]

Do they at least intubate on that show? On House, MD they don't even intubate the patients.

 

[threepeas]

If you want some encouragement about your decision, just step out into a more community or private setting. I'm currently in Chattanooga, a satellite campus for the University of Tennessee. It is a level 1 trauma center, and has academic attendings, but has a semi-private atmosphere. When I say I'm going to be and Anesthesiologist, all I get is "you're smart," and "I wish someone had told me about that option when I was in school."

this is sooooooooooo true. every time i tell surgeons (that i work with as a PA while i am in school) that i want to do anesthesia/CCM i get a pat on the back because they know i am making a great decision and they are happy for me.

 

[stephend7799]

when i was a medical student in the mid nineties.. anesthesia was not even considered my anybody as a specialty of choice. You were considered a loser if you considered anesthesia.. Only the people who had nothing else to do did anesthesia and thats exactly what happened to me. I had nothing else to do. I really did not apply myself in medical school and ended up in the bottom ehalf of the class. and i still got it I freakin dig what i do totally. But i can see how medical students who spend years studying want to play a larger role in their patients lives.. Most patients dont even know my name. But I am happy to see that the top students are considering anesthesia as a career choice.. Shows how far we have come. and where we are going.

 

[militarymd]

when i was a medical student in the mid nineties.. anesthesia was not even considered my anybody as a specialty of choice. You were considered a loser if you considered anesthesia.. Only the people who had nothing else to do did anesthesia and thats exactly what happened to me. I had nothing else to do. I really did not apply myself in medical school and ended up in the bottom ehalf of the class. and i still got it I freakin dig what i do totally. But i can see how medical students who spend years studying want to play a larger role in their patients lives.. Most patients dont even know my name. But I am happy to see that the top students are considering anesthesia as a career choice.. Shows how far we have come. and where we are going.

so....you're one of those.

 

[ultm8frisbee]

when i was a medical student in the mid nineties.. anesthesia was not even considered my anybody as a specialty of choice. You were considered a loser if you considered anesthesia.. Only the people who had nothing else to do did anesthesia and thats exactly what happened to me. I had nothing else to do. I really did not apply myself in medical school and ended up in the bottom ehalf of the class. and i still got it I freakin dig what i do totally. But i can see how medical students who spend years studying want to play a larger role in their patients lives.. Most patients dont even know my name. But I am happy to see that the top students are considering anesthesia as a career choice.. Shows how far we have come. and where we are going.

Ladies and Gentleman, the reason anesthesiology is put down by other specialties.

 

[MedicinePowder]

kids growing up don't say: "i wanna grow up to be an anesthesiologist", instead, they want to be surgeons, heart doctors, pediatricians etc. if you want prestige and recognition you choose the wrong field.



it's not worth getting upset about others not getting excited over your choice of anesthesiology. bottom line anesthesiology isn't popular among both lay people and the medical community and for the most part people will be indifferent about the field. it's something you had to consider going into it.

 

[Sammich81]

Yeah on Grey's Anatomy the surgeons intubate. Like I said I haven't seen anesthesiologists do anything besides be drunk and punk out when a bomb is about to go off in the OR.

 

[miamidc]

kids growing up don't say: "i wanna grow up to be an anesthesiologist", instead, they want to be surgeons, heart doctors, pediatricians etc. if you want prestige and recognition you choose the wrong field.



it's not worth getting upset about others not getting excited over your choice of anesthesiology. bottom line anesthesiology isn't popular among both lay people and the medical community and for the most part people will be indifferent about the field. it's something you had to consider going into it.

Id have to agree, and I would also say that I couldnt give a rat's ass about what someone else thinks of my chosen proffession. Fact is I will be the last one laughing...to the bank...the golfcourse...costa rica...hawaii...son's baseball game...etc...Others can let themselves be defined my Medicine, I have other things in my life I will have the time to enjoy, that define me. And I'll have one more thing that many others won't have...a BIG FAT SMILE on my face, except of course for your other fellow GasMan out there. 😀 😀 😀

 

[automaton]

kids growing up don't say: "i wanna grow up to be an anesthesiologist", instead, they want to be surgeons, heart doctors, pediatricians etc. if you want prestige and recognition you choose the wrong field.



it's not worth getting upset about others not getting excited over your choice of anesthesiology. bottom line anesthesiology isn't popular among both lay people and the medical community and for the most part people will be indifferent about the field. it's something you had to consider going into it.

i think a lot of people grow up with the ideal of becoming a family doc. the lay person's perception of anesthesiologists isn't much different from radiologists, pathologists, dermatologists, ophthalmologists, psychiatrists, etc. in fact i didn't even know dermatologists were doctors for the longest time, much less that they were harvard trained members of AOA.

personally my ideal was the internist/hospitalist. always viewed ROAD as weird people, surgeons as angry bonehead jocks. obviously those perceptions have changed quite a bit.

 

[MedicinePowder]

i think a lot of people grow up with the ideal of becoming a family doc. the lay person's perception of anesthesiologists isn't much different from radiologists, pathologists, dermatologists, ophthalmologists, psychiatrists, etc. in fact i didn't even know dermatologists were doctors for the longest time, much less that they were harvard trained members of AOA.

personally my ideal was the internist/hospitalist. always viewed ROAD as weird people, surgeons as angry bonehead jocks. obviously those perceptions have changed quite a bit.

in my experience, the lay people know derm, ophtho and even pathologists are doctors; however, because of the midlevels doing anesth, some think anesthesiologists are nurses. when i told a friend of a friend about doing anesth, he said: "oh yea, my friend is also going into that, he's right now getting his vocational nursing degree but plans to be an RN then eventually do anesth". as well, it doesn't help when crnas prance around the hospital with surgical caps that read "anesthsiology", scrubs, steths over their neck, clogs, and a big R.N. badge. it waters down any type of prestige/recognition for the field. within medicine, rads, ophtho and derm has the recognition. i'm just trying to be honest bout stuff. maybe there needs to be more education about the field, but as of now, that's how it is.

 

[ThinkFast007]

in my experience, the lay people know derm, ophtho and even pathologists are doctors; however, because of the midlevels doing anesth, some think anesthesiologists are nurses. when i told a friend of a friend about doing anesth, he said: "oh yea, my friend is also going into that, he's right now getting his vocational nursing degree but plans to be an RN then eventually do anesth". as well, it doesn't help when crnas prance around the hospital with surgical caps that read "anesthsiology", scrubs, steths over their neck, clogs, and a big R.N. badge. it waters down any type of prestige/recognition for the field. within medicine, rads, ophtho and derm has the recognition. i'm just trying to be honest bout stuff. maybe there needs to be more education about the field, but as of now, that's how it is.

agree w/ post above.

F ed up. i mean i dont need someone stroking my ego on a daily basis. but come on...i think there needs to be some sort of distinction b/w a CRNA and an anesthesiologist to the hospital staff. I saw mk 'them' wear orange scrubs.

but serioulsy, something shoudl be done to distinguish the two. i guess we have our long white coats

 

[Beck928]

BTW, Congrats Beck!!!

Thanks Lvs, you too! I'm all for what you said, medicine is not my life! Amen to that, brotha!

 

[bullard]

Well, at Northwestern, the CRNAs will be the ones leaving at 3 pm everyday. That distinction should be easy enough.

agree w/ post above.

F ed up. i mean i dont need someone stroking my ego on a daily basis. but come on...i think there needs to be some sort of distinction b/w a CRNA and an anesthesiologist to the hospital staff. I saw mk 'them' wear orange scrubs.

but serioulsy, something shoudl be done to distinguish the two. i guess we have our long white coats

 

[lvspro]

Thanks Lvs, you too! I'm all for what you said, medicine is not my life! Amen to that, brotha!

👍

 

[nitecap]

If you want some encouragement about your decision, just step out into a more community or private setting. I'm currently in Chattanooga, a satellite campus for the University of Tennessee. It is a level 1 trauma center, and has academic attendings, but has a semi-private atmosphere. When I say I'm going to be and Anesthesiologist, all I get is "you're smart," and "I wish someone had told me about that option when I was in school."
Honestly, I'd say we are about as bad as anyone about this. I know I don't pass up an opportunity to burn on my optho comrades about their relegation to a few centimeters of the body, or offer to keep in touch with families of Surg/OBGYN colleagues for them. We won't even get into the gimmes that are internal medicine and peds. So bottom line is, they're jealous. As well they should be. 😛

I am slightly farmiliar with this site in chattanooga as I used to have relatives that lived their. Who does the anesthesia their? So residents train their? Is the anethesia team there as good as I here they are? I here that Anesthesia and Surgery have a pretty good relationship here.

 

[rn29306]

...as well, it doesn't help when crnas prance around the hospital with surgical caps that read "anesthsiology", scrubs, steths over their neck, clogs, and a big R.N. badge.

I agree with you about the scrubs reading "anesthesiology" being a little more than over the edge, but what about the scrubs, clogs, stethescopes, and a badge that includes RN in CRNA. what would you have them wear?....and be realistic.

if they didn't wear the name badge plainly showing "CRNA", then you'd say they were hiding their true job function.

geez, if they didn't have the stethescope you'd probably say they come to work unprepared and don't show initiative to be able to troubleshoot on their own. WTF would you have them wear besides scrubs?

 

[mysophobe]

Yeah on Grey's Anatomy the surgeons intubate. Like I said I haven't seen anesthesiologists do anything besides be drunk and punk out when a bomb is about to go off in the OR.

:stifles laughter:

 

[ThinkFast007]

...WTF would you have them wear besides scrubs?

pink underwear

 

[nitecap]

I agree with you about the scrubs reading "anesthesiology" being a little more than over the edge, but what about the scrubs, clogs, stethescopes, and a badge that includes RN in CRNA. what would you have them wear?....and be realistic.

geez, if they didn't have the stethescope you'd probably say they come to work unprepared and don't show initiative to be able to troubleshoot on their own. WTF would you have them wear besides scrubs?

The hospitals and groups that I have personally witnessed CRNA's that wore anything titled anesthesiology had required the CRNA's to have that on their coats ect. It wasnt by choice, i def. dont want to pass the worng idead about what i do. I have seen eveyone from MD's to Resp therapists hang steths on their neck to whats the big deal. And clogs? I recently have seen more MD's than CRNA's where the little slip on clogs. I personally cant stand the things and wouldnt wear them if toughlife bought me the new red and white camoflauged Lebron James vs 50 cent gangsta air clogs with pump up heels, shocks and little red lights on the side ya heard me. what should MD's decide what CRNA's should wear now? When you guys mean control you mean control, huh.

 

[mysophobe]

I just put shoe covers over my socks. MUCH more comfortable. 😛

 

[rn29306]

pink underwear

The great one speaks. You would say something like this..

 

[jetproppilot]

The hospitals and groups that I have personally witnessed CRNA's that wore anything titled anesthesiology had required the CRNA's to have that on their coats ect. It wasnt by choice, i def. dont want to pass the worng idead about what i do. I have seen eveyone from MD's to Resp therapists hang steths on their neck to whats the big deal. And clogs? I recently have seen more MD's than CRNA's where the little slip on clogs. I personally cant stand the things and wouldnt wear them if toughlife bought me the new red and white camoflauged Lebron James vs 50 cent gangsta air clogs with pump up heels, shocks and little red lights on the side ya heard me. what should MD's decide what CRNA's should wear now? When you guys mean control you mean control, huh.

I wear orange Calzuros in the OR.

Matches part of The U's insignia I've got on my labcoat.

Any you dudes gotta problem with orange (DA U) clogs, lets step outside and I'll show you why college football created the taunting penalty in the late 80s. .........

GO CANES

 

[VolatileAgent]

I wear orange Calzuros in the OR.

Matches part of The U's insignia I've got on my labcoat.

Any you dudes gotta problem with orange (DA U) clogs, lets step outside and I'll show you why college football created the taunting penalty in the late 80s. .........

GO CANES

 

[ThinkFast007]

The great one speaks. You would say something like this..

i'm honored with the name.

although, the 'great one' as I see it refers to Mark Levin, for those that dont know he's a host on conservative talk radio WMAL (along with hannity and rush Limbaugh).

 

[nitecap]

I wear orange Calzuros in the OR.

Matches part of The U's insignia I've got on my labcoat.

Any you dudes gotta problem with orange (DA U) clogs, lets step outside and I'll show you why college football created the taunting penalty in the late 80s. .........

GO CANES

Were your wife and in laws talking smack when LSU beat that A$$ in the bowl game this past year?

 

[jetproppilot]

Were your wife and in laws talking smack when LSU beat that A$$ in the bowl game this past year?

Geez. I thought I was gonna have to move outta the country. 🙁

 

[jetproppilot]

Were your wife and in laws talking smack when LSU beat that A$$ in the bowl game this past year?

All dissing side, I never got why that game happened like it did.

It was like Miami went from a top-5 NCAA team to playing high school football.

It was like Da U didnt even show up for that game.

 

[underdog27]

All dissing side, I never got why that game happened like it did.

It was like Miami went from a top-5 NCAA team to playing high school football.

It was like Da U didnt even show up for that game.

Hey Jet-

Much love to you and your Canes as they have been a top 5 team for a long....long time. I'll never forget them getting off the plane in AZ for the '87 Fiesta Bowl decked out in fatigues. However, the way they played in their bowl game last year reminded me of the way they played when my beloved Arizona Wildcats dominated them in the Fiesta Bowl in '94. Unfortunately, unlike your Canes, my Wildcats have not seen many bowl games since then.

 

[nitecap]

All dissing side, I never got why that game happened like it did.

It was like Miami went from a top-5 NCAA team to playing high school football.

It was like Da U didnt even show up for that game.

I knew as soon as the tigers started recruiting effectively enough keeping all the local Louisiana talent they would be a force to be recconed with.

Just think all the local talent right from BR and NOLA that left. The Manning brothers, Marshall Faulk, Warick Dunn thats just a few.

Both the Tigers and Canes will be real strong next year though. Cant wait till football season starts again. It cant come soon enough.

 

[deleted87716]

OK, back to hanging out with all the ******s on the family board. 🙂

Hey, I resemble that remark! 😛

 

[deleted87716]

I wear orange Calzuros in the OR.

You don't resemble chef Mario Batali , by any chance, do you? 😉

P.S. - The clogs in the pic are Crocs, not Calzuros...he started wearing those recently, but his original signature shoes were Calzuros.

 

[jetproppilot]

You don't resemble chef Mario Batali , by any chance, do you? 😉

P.S. - The clogs in the pic are Crocs, not Calzuros...he started wearing those recently, but his original signature shoes were Calzuros.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

OK, I played along and clicked on Mario Batali thinkin' "cool name...must be a superbike champion/italian acrobatic pilot/surfer at Pipeline/upcoming Mr Olympia contender....

and I get

recipes.

Nice Blue Dog avatar BTW.