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Maybe they need to adopt a US healthcare system. If their pensioners die 4 years sooner that’s 4 years less pension and healthcare the government has to pay for.
Critical thinking and cause/effect is not your strong suite. If you think this round of Rioting is all about education, then good luck to you. But to your point, with all the social programs/high taxes, how in the world is education support so lacking? Why is the youth unemployment so bad when youth employment is what is paying for the Pension Ponzi scheme.
France has the classic socialist problem. You give them some, they want more. You give them more, they want even more. You give them more, and they expect to be given more. When the $ printing press breaks, they will riot because you have trained a population to depend on the state.
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Blame the best/cutting edge medical care in the world for our lazy population using take out as a national pastime. Do better if you think our obesity is not relevant.
You are obviously the man with all of the answers so I should have come to you with my initial question which is why is there a virtual ignorance of Trump's socialist tendencies especially from those who say that socialism is the biggest evil in the history of humankind (even though every country does it to an extent). Maybe you with all of your wisdom and critical thinking can answer that for me.
They need Obamacare?
First I need to point out that France has a very large private sector and is one of the major capitalist economies in the world (so they are far from being the foremost socialist country that you describe). France does have rather generous social protections by US standards including universal healthcare, pensions, and paid leaves. That alone does not constitute socialism. France along with countries like Sweden, Denmark, and Norway are frequently mislabeled as socialist but actually run competitive, private-property-based market economies
I believe that you are firmly against all of these things. The US definitely doesn't have universal healthcare. It is getting away from pensions (more to do with corporate greed than anything else) and there is no paid leaves that are guaranteed. Even so the United States, still relies on government-run or taxpayer-funded programs for things like public roads, public schools, police and fire departments, social security, and military defense.
Please edify us with your knowledge. It seems that you are advocating for no social programs. That would make your plan different from ANY country in the modern world. Nearly every country in the world operates a mixed economy which combines private enterprise and capitalism with government intervention, public infrastructure, and social safety nets.
But maybe everyone has it wrong and they should just listen to you, the one with the best critical thinking skills. Why are you fooling around in medicine? You could run a country with your ideas......
Our system is badly broken and anyone who doesn’t have their head in the sand knows it. Yes, we have amazing technology to save people who are at death’s door, at eye watering cost. We do an absolutely terrible job of delivering cost effective primary care that would prevent people from needing those amazing technologies.
No, hyper, Obamacare didn’t cause the current garbage system - it’s been a slow decline for at least 40 years. We’ve been over this before.
Insurance companies are vertically integrated behemoths that insert themselves as middlemen in virtually every transaction. PBMs are some of the most egregious - they actually force drug makers to raise their prices then pay back the differential to the PBMs as a rebate in order to be on formulary. They then turn around and offer preferred pricing to their own affiliated pharmacies, and charge mystery fees to independent pharmacies. I filled an Rx today that would have been $170 with insurance, after a prior auth. It was $40 with GoodRx. Make that make sense.
Meanwhile, we all have to satisfy increasingly ridiculous medical necessity criteria using AI-based denials. Those criteria claim to be independent evidence-based guidelines, but are controlled by yet another insurance subsidiary. Cigna’s EviCore, Anthem’s Carelon, UHC’s Optum. We all know and loathe them. Because medical loss ratio requirements for insurers to spend at least 85% of their premiums on patient care, they contract with these “independent” UM companies to shuffle profits over to them. They pull the same thing with dozens of other affiliated companies for various parts of the business.
There is not anything that you have said here that is untrue especially the PBM stuff.
I used to have an independent pharmacy in my previous life. PBMs are as evil as they come.
You're not wrong.
But I would argue that what you are calling "garbage" is the result of a multitude of attempts at socialized medicine, including Medicare, Medicare Advantage, Medicaid, Obamacare, etc. All of these started off with good intentions but have become unsustainable disasters.
Stop throwing good money after bad. The federal govt needs to get out of this business.
It's patently absurd that a person who needs to see a PCP and insulin has to go through the Washington DC bureaucracy to get it.
We’ve had that conversation before too. Sounds good in the abstract. Let’s consider what it would really look like. First principle is that if you don’t have insurance, can’t afford it, or can’t convince a bank that you’re good for it, you can’t buy it. Fine if it’s a car. A little thornier if it’s a stent for a STEMI. Don’t worry - I’m sure the free market would respond with companies standing by 24/7 to assess your hard assets and buy them from you for 50% of their value, and have the money in an escrow account for the hospital within 30 minutes. Shame about that retirement you were hoping to take soon. Back to the grindstone for another 30 years.
The perfect free market still doesn’t do anything to improve preventive care. In fact, since it will all be cash out of pocket, how many poor families are going to choose groceries and gas money over vaccines for their kids? Oh but charity care will step in - nah, they’ll be too overloaded trying to save all the pediatric cancer cases who can’t afford their chemo. All the single parents who’ll die if they don’t get their gall bladder out.
And let’s not forget the granddaddy of all problem legislation for a true capitalist healthcare society: EMTALA. What raging socialist signed that bill? If a homeless guy who smokes 2 packs a day and eats fast food from the dumpster wanders into the ER having a STEMI, guess what, he gets a free ticket to the cardiac ICU! A free set of stents or maybe even a 4 vessel CABG. When that goes south, he’ll get an intraaortic balloon pump. When that plus the bypass plus all the drugs he’s done shut down his kidneys, he’ll get CRRT. The finest healthcare in the world. Millions of dollars of it. Who foots the bill? Currently he’d get emergency Medicaid and the government would step in. Maybe that’s not a great idea and we should put a little more thought into which lives are worth saving. But who gets to make that call? Are you comfortable if that ends up in the opposite political party’s hands?
So let’s repeal EMTALA. Free market all the way baby! Oof, speaking of babies, hope you’ve got a lot of cash on hand, or maybe a convenient manger nearby if you’re about to have one. If you need a c-section and can’t afford one, I guess you’ll just have to go really old-school and die instead.
But enough about that, let’s consider these medical miracles that we have in the US, and where they came from. Trillions of tax dollars over the course of the past century have been poured into medical research, medical education, public health. Sure, the blockbuster drugs were funded by big pharmaceutical companies. But the basic science they were based on was overwhelmingly directly or indirectly government funded. And most of it probably sounded stupid at the time. That’s the nature of basic science research. Why did the NIH pay some people to test the effects of lizard spit on pancreatic enzymes? What a massive waste of taxpayer dollars, right? This is your money, people!
I forget whether you’re anesthesia background. Ever watched a CABG? Loooot of expensive equipment and expensive people in that room. Not to mention several days in a cardiac ICU afterward. What will hospitals do when only the wealthy can afford this amazing care? CTS, Onc, transplant, rheum, and certainly pain management. Those service lines will shrivel up like a balloon on ice. They’ll be scrabbling like cats over the few customers who can afford to shell out $20,000 for medical care, not knowing if they’ll need it next week for a car accident or a ruptured appendix. Private medical insurance will prevent that? Sure, as long as you’ve never been sick before. Employer-sponsored healthcare? That’s a result of government interference too. Hopefully you can buy your own. Better watch out though because if they get wind that you’ve got cancer, oops, they’ve just coincidentally decided not to renew your policy.
The system is complicated and messy. No solution is prefect. But I don’t think one that leaves millions of people dying in the street is the right call.
My argument is that we should leave these challenges to the states, just like the EU does to its member countries.
And somehow you are ignorant enough to believe that.
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How did this begin?
It started in September with a strike by students and teachers at a high school in the Parisian suburbs, who demanded more staff and resources. Their demands were met and the strike ended – but it lit a spark that soon caught nationwide.Students around the country, long frustrated with an understaffed and overcrowded education system, launched protests that at times turned violent. A heavy-handed police response fueled public anger and pushed hundreds of thousands of people onto the streets, especially after videos of a police officer using a banned headlock on a girl.
Students gather in front of barricaded gates at the Lycee Paul-Eluard high school in the northern Paris suburb of Saint-Denis, France, on September 29.
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Within a few weeks, the protests swelled to become a broader movement beyond students, capturing widespread discontent over affordability, perceived government inaction, a growing wealth divide, and a deep desire for social and political change.
Fox News:
Of the 54 organizations identified in the October protest ecosystem, 16 — or only about one in three — are student or youth organizations, including communist youth groups and a Muslim student association. The remaining 38 include adult-led communist groups, labor unions, political parties, revolutionary-left organizations, advocacy groups and international propaganda outlets.
They include Gilets jaunes, or "Yellow Vests," a radical far-left group that led protests with other groups this weekend, and far-left socialist political party La France Insoumise (LFI), or France Unbowed.
From the outset, far-left socialist and communist organizations helped organize and amplify France’s student revolt, using grievances over school conditions as a pretext to mobilize a broader political struggle against capitalism, government austerity, policing and military spending.
If you think that even a large well funded state could take this on you are being naive.
Taking only just ONE chronic disease like chronic renal disease requiring dialysis bankrupts every state quite quickly.
You may or may not be aware but people are dropped quickly even with very minor issues in the individual markets. The private sector won't solve this problem.
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They both are saying what I said which is that it began as student protests.Your news:
CNN
How did this begin?
It started in September with a strike by students and teachers at a high school in the Parisian suburbs, who demanded more staff and resources. Their demands were met and the strike ended – but it lit a spark that soon caught nationwide.
Students around the country, long frustrated with an understaffed and overcrowded education system, launched protests that at times turned violent. A heavy-handed police response fueled public anger and pushed hundreds of thousands of people onto the streets, especially after videos of a police officer using a banned headlock on a girl.
Students gather in front of barricaded gates at the Lycee Paul-Eluard high school in the northern Paris suburb of Saint-Denis, France, on September 29.
Luc Auffret/Anadolu/Getty Images
Within a few weeks, the protests swelled to become a broader movement beyond students, capturing widespread discontent over affordability, perceived government inaction, a growing wealth divide, and a deep desire for social and political change.
Fox News:
Of the 54 organizations identified in the October protest ecosystem, 16 — or only about one in three — are student or youth organizations, including communist youth groups and a Muslim student association. The remaining 38 include adult-led communist groups, labor unions, political parties, revolutionary-left organizations, advocacy groups and international propaganda outlets.
They include Gilets jaunes, or "Yellow Vests," a radical far-left group that led protests with other groups this weekend, and far-left socialist political party La France Insoumise (LFI), or France Unbowed.
From the outset, far-left socialist and communist organizations helped organize and amplify France’s student revolt, using grievances over school conditions as a pretext to mobilize a broader political struggle against capitalism, government austerity, policing and military spending.
I didn't listen to CNN or Fox concerning this
Leftist - France is what we need to emulate, nirvana of social safety nets. But yet, students have to riot for Air Conditioning that Americans take for granted. Yes.... A great country we should emulate whose economy has youth unemployment is 21%. No wonder they are always rioting.
Again cute idea, sounds good superficially. Doesn’t work when you dive into the the details unless you actually split the states into separate countries. Otherwise you’ve just created unpaid interstate medical tourism - people would go to the nearest state with a socialized system and legal requirement to treat the sick. They’d travel to coasts to have their babies, then skip on the hospital bill. Once they get old and start to get expensive medical problems, they’d all move to the states with healthcare.
your definition has been and continues to be flawed.
your definition of socialism is based on what you perceive to be real world examples of socialism. all of these examples are totalitarian in nature, not socialist and use socialism as a guise to control the populace. they are authoritarian, not socialist.
there has never been a true socialist country because there has never been a country that has had group ownership of all goods in a democratic society where everyone is equal.
in a truce socialist society, freedom from constraints is a key component.
those who are liberals in the US are generally not advocating for a true socialist country because it is impossible. what they are advocating for is social constraints on rampant capitalist tendencies of monopoly and control that lead to oligarchy and concentration of wealth in a limited few while exploiting of the people and the environment with the express goal of accumulating as much $$$.
as others have mentioned eloquently, they are rioting because they want more social services, not because they want them to go away.
air conditioning was not previously "required" in France - the climate change has had a significant impact on france.
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youth unemployment has frequently been high in France.
not a new phenomenon.
who said we should emulate france?
we should emulate noone - we should be better than everyone. we have the economic capacity to provide every american with appropriate healthcare, education resources, and social safety net, yet we continue to fund multibillionaires with tax breaks and incentives for them to hoard wealth and thus create such economic inequality as to rival the worst times ever in the US.
Giving people broad handouts almost never end well. Medicare was overall well designed and with good intentions. Same with Pensions. But once you give, people expect leading to the road of complacency. I am all for helping, I help/give more than most to charity, but I chose who I think will do a good job.
Libs have good intentions but they do not look outside the box many times. Its all about feel good but they can't think past emotions. It is like a drug, feels good but eventually comes crashing down. Like fishing. You teach people to fish, you improve their life. You give them fish without expectations, you create a life expecting that daily fish.
Socialism, free handouts, lack of expectations only works in a home.
Libs have good intentions but they do not look outside the box many times. Its all about feel good but they can't think past emotions. It is like a drug, feels good but eventually comes crashing down. Like fishing. You teach people to fish, you improve their life. You give them fish without expectations, you create a life expecting that daily fish.
Socialism, free handouts, lack of expectations only works in a home.
social democracy is an ideology of using ethical constraints on runaway capitalism.
we are a social democracy that does not spend enough on the social aspects.
the people getting free handouts are the ultra rich who do not reinvest in the economy. rather they hoard and allow their riches to passively increase while avoiding paying taxes the rest of society pay. just look at the Big Beautiful (sic) Bill.
most of those who are receiving benefits are working. you are believing in falsehoods denigrating a large population of individuals who are attempting to make ends meet.
if conservatives really wanted to help people, as one example, they would push for increases in minimum wage so that these working poor can make ends meet without having to qualify for government handouts. but mega corporations such as Walmart, amazon, uber, lyft are built on exploiting workers wages
we are a social democracy that does not spend enough on the social aspects.
the people getting free handouts are the ultra rich who do not reinvest in the economy. rather they hoard and allow their riches to passively increase while avoiding paying taxes the rest of society pay. just look at the Big Beautiful (sic) Bill.
most of those who are receiving benefits are working. you are believing in falsehoods denigrating a large population of individuals who are attempting to make ends meet.
if conservatives really wanted to help people, as one example, they would push for increases in minimum wage so that these working poor can make ends meet without having to qualify for government handouts. but mega corporations such as Walmart, amazon, uber, lyft are built on exploiting workers wages
Oh then it’s ok. The carnage, violence and destruction is justified. Why does the left keep justifying violence. It’s really sickening
there you go again, making inflammatory statements.
radical extremes - of either side - try to justify violence. the radical right does it in spades. for over a century.
its equally sickening for any side.
radical extremes - of either side - try to justify violence. the radical right does it in spades. for over a century.
its equally sickening for any side.
Wrong. It would all work out fine.
Our current system is ok but waste and fraud is endemic and unavoidable. We need to make cuts to keep it going. Expanding to "Medicare for all" or other cockamamie socialist ideas will eventually collapse the economy. But I think that's the direction you guys prefer, so carry on.
But how exactly would it work out fine? You’re the one making the policy proposal so how would you legislatively deal with those problems without creating even more government bureaucracy? And are you ok with US citizens dying in the street because they can’t afford a life saving surgery or a course of antibiotics? When someone is crippled by an otherwise preventable condition that they couldn’t afford to treat, do they go on disability? Or do we entirely get rid of that too?
Thanks for proving my point. Looks like you are finally coming to your senses. What happens to the man the next day when the fire dies? Does he die to just live one extra day or would he be better off being pushed/taught how to build the fire.
I am 1st gen immigrant, poorer than the poorest of Americans when I came. I am glad I was taught how to build a fire rather than just given a heater. I would be a generational welfare recipient teaching my kids the way of welfare essentially crippling my future generations. I know many family members/friends who chose to let the government build their fire b/c it required little work. They/their kids are no better than when they came to the US.
America is by far the best country in the world that allows those who are willing to outwork others to succeed. I have many stories of success due to sheer hard work that the vast majority of people would never even try. Give my 1st gen immigrant family/friends a guaranteed safety net and you would have turned us into dependents of the state.
It really is not that hard to understand.
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Bruh. It’s a joke. What happens to someone if you set them on fire?
Bro, I got the joke but that saying essentially reinforces how freebies damage work ethic.
Let me ask you this. If someone came to you when you were 18 yrs old starting college and gave you $100K guaranteed for the rest of your life. Do you think you would have worked hard to be a doctor? If you say yes, then you are either lying to yourself or the 10% that would take the risk of being a doctor. Bottom line is there would be very few doctors and the quality would drop steeply.
I am all for helping out, welfare, safety net for those who can not. I am not for those who choose to stay on the government gravy train. Whey does betty or John stay on welfare because collecting 2K a month is enough to pay bills rather than actually working/taking risks to better their lives.
You're gonna have to put all your fears into a single, coherent example. In what specific scenario do you think someone will "die in the street"?
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In any scenario in which you remove all regulation that would prevent true free market healthcare. Like I said before, you’d have to repeal EMTALA and anything else that requires medical care to be provided to someone who can’t pay. You think these private equity owned hospitals would have even the slightest qualms about doing a wallet biopsy on the way into the ED and literally just having security escort them to the curb if they couldn’t pay? They won’t arrange for a transfer to a charity hospital because the patient would occupy space until the ambulance arrives, and the ambulance companies are mostly private too and wouldn’t take someone who can’t pay. They’ll literally just put the dying person outside.
If a state wants their own EMTALA, they can legislate it.
states controlling public benefits has been shown to have significant racist tendencies.
interesting scenario.
thats what happened to Donald Trump. he inherited $413 million from daddy dearest, with possibly up to 196 different revenue streams.
so are you saying he has been lazy all his life?
not even the most vociferous trump hater will agree with that statement.
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TANF (temporary assistance for needy families, what you call welfare) has a maximum benefit of 60 months. the majority of people are on for less than 12 months. only 10% are estimated to be on for more than 3 years (36 months).
where are you getting 2k per month?
in NY, TANF gives $410 per single person. for 6 people (2 adults and 4 children), the maximum is $1225.
France is burning. More than 2,000 people were arrested and more than 600 police officers injured in one of the largest anti-government protests in modern French history.
What started two weeks ago as "student protests" have turned into rioters singing the Communist anthem, waving flags with the hammer and sickle (or crescent!). The rioters shouted “C’est la Révolution, on prend la Bastille!” 𝘐𝘵’𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘞𝘦’𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘦!
Half a million people took to the streets in France over the cost of living. This is the country that spends more on social programs than any other developed nation, and it can’t pay its bills. No balanced budget since the 1970s. Debt at 119% of its economy. Taxes already at 44% on the average person. When the government promises everything, every fix hurts: cut taxes and you lose revenue, cut programs and people revolt. 𝗜𝘀 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗲𝗻𝗱-𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗺? 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿?
Saturday, October 17 was billed as a return of the “Yellow Vests” (gilets jaunes). Communist Party leader Fabien Roussel backed the protests, as did members of the left-wing La France Insoumise. Franceinfo reported that the CGT union, France Unbowed and the French Communist Party all joined the mobilization.
These same groups are planning a Nov. 20 "demonstration" spanning 12 countries. It's all funded and coordinated.
Emmanuel Macron is asking "How can French people do this to France?" (Maybe because they're not French??) French people are all over social media warning the rest of us: this could be you soon if you don't wake up.
Here at home, the Democratic Socialists of America want to bring us that model. Before you vote in November, ask the question France never answered: who pays when the money runs out? Who will defend you and your property when the police and ICE have been defunded?
The images below show war zone–like scenes: masked protesters, Palestinian flags everywhere, and rioters moving in coordinated units to threaten the country’s three main symbolic sites.
What started two weeks ago as "student protests" have turned into rioters singing the Communist anthem, waving flags with the hammer and sickle (or crescent!). The rioters shouted “C’est la Révolution, on prend la Bastille!” 𝘐𝘵’𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘞𝘦’𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘦!
Half a million people took to the streets in France over the cost of living. This is the country that spends more on social programs than any other developed nation, and it can’t pay its bills. No balanced budget since the 1970s. Debt at 119% of its economy. Taxes already at 44% on the average person. When the government promises everything, every fix hurts: cut taxes and you lose revenue, cut programs and people revolt. 𝗜𝘀 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗲𝗻𝗱-𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗺? 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿?
Saturday, October 17 was billed as a return of the “Yellow Vests” (gilets jaunes). Communist Party leader Fabien Roussel backed the protests, as did members of the left-wing La France Insoumise. Franceinfo reported that the CGT union, France Unbowed and the French Communist Party all joined the mobilization.
These same groups are planning a Nov. 20 "demonstration" spanning 12 countries. It's all funded and coordinated.
Emmanuel Macron is asking "How can French people do this to France?" (Maybe because they're not French??) French people are all over social media warning the rest of us: this could be you soon if you don't wake up.
Here at home, the Democratic Socialists of America want to bring us that model. Before you vote in November, ask the question France never answered: who pays when the money runs out? Who will defend you and your property when the police and ICE have been defunded?
The images below show war zone–like scenes: masked protesters, Palestinian flags everywhere, and rioters moving in coordinated units to threaten the country’s three main symbolic sites.
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If Trump had done a such a great job as many of you MAGAs on here are claiming, then why are you guys scared of losing Texas, Alaska, Ohio, and even freaking Kansas!! KANSAS? The place that hasn’t sent a democratic senator for 94 years!!!
I don’t remember Democrats losing Colorado, California or Illinois in 2022 during the Biden presidency. So, care to explain what is going on here?
If your president is so great, then why are you guys scared ****less??
I don’t remember Democrats losing Colorado, California or Illinois in 2022 during the Biden presidency. So, care to explain what is going on here?
If your president is so great, then why are you guys scared ****less??
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clubdeac was referring to socialism. There has never been a successful socialism state in world history.
Trump being egotistical and impulsive makes him a mediocre president. But that fact doesn't make socialism any less idiotic.
I hear you mentioning welfare to the "masses" but you say nothing about corporate welfare or welfare to the billionaires. Are you even aware of how the rich are fleecing all of us? You have good intentions but you are focused on the wrong things.
Explain how your suggestion would work. Everything that Callmeanesthesia said would happen and you would get a lot of people getting cancelled for very mild disease. It already happening.
Maga has really messed up your mind, you have grown angrier.
Most Republicans, myself included, can care less if dems take both houses. Nothing will change, dem leadership will push through some softballs to appease the left, and it will be business as usual. My life will not change one bit who is running the government b/c they will always bow to the rich/powerful which includes dem leadership. Don't fool yourself, your dem leaders are no better but will throw you some small bones but no real change will happen.
The rich will get richer, the wealth gap will grow.
Trump is ultra wealth so it is assumed that he earned everything and was given nothing.
The reasoning befuddles the mind.
But under less than two years of Trump, the deficit went from 36 trillion to 40 trillion.
Is this what you are asking people to vote for in November?
They are no longer scared. They have accepted their fate......privately.
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What country has no "socialism"?
Also please answer my original question when this thread was started.
I find what is happening in France fascinating. France has one of the biggest entitlement/safety net programs with one of the highest taxes relative to GDP. YET, starting teacher salaries is 2k Euro/month, schools in disarray, young & old protesting, gas lines, gas stations out of fuel. Protesters are saying, "Tax the rich", "Wealth Tax", "socialize", "Billionare need to pay"...... There is just so much the cow can produce and France is reaching the limit of the cow having no milk left.
France is moving towards a failed state. Their Welfare/pension is unsustainable, high youth unemployment can not support this Ponzi scheme, Mass immigration with the "disadvantage" wanting more. It is viscous cycle that always fail.
Now The far right likely will win the presidency. When will lefties learn. I doubt this will ever happen to the US b/c American Dems in power at least understand that giving crumbs to their voters will get them votes but also keep the rich in power.
Lefties/DSA backers need to really educate themselves concerning France. How are they going to fix their fiscal mess if they have one of the highest tax rate, have one of the largest social safety net, have unsustainable debt, unsustainable future pension obligations, have problems borrowing against their relatively poor credit rating, high youth unemployment, and refuse to make any major cuts in fear of rioting.
Something will have to give and unless some fiscal adult runs the country, they will continue to spiral down with regular unrest until mass chaos takes over.
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No....you have just accepted the Republicans fate.
These are the DSA voters/supporters and there are docs here who agree with DSA policies. Hard for me to wrap my head around this.Super sad
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WATCH: A woman steps directly into the path of looters ransacking a Paris supermarket, confronting them as violent protests grip the city before a man pulls her away. "This is not the cause!" The...
Not true. I am America first and can care less who runs the government. My life and the wealth gap got better under Biden, got better under DJT. My life and most docs will continue to get better being the elite 5%. You are fooling yourself if a dem run government is going to do anything more than virtual signal.
But if this helps your mental state, good for you. But don't fool yourself that it will be any different.
