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[yehhhboiii]

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Me too! I'm getting concerned, honestly. I don't want people who think like that to become doctors.

too late

 

[The Bunk]

too late

Ok, maybe I should have said "I don't want more people who think like that to become doctors." Some of the conversations I see on here are depressing as hell.

 

[SunsFun]

Me too! I'm getting concerned, honestly. I don't want people who think like that to become doctors.

Well medicine is a conservative profession that attracts many "conservative" people. Older generation is even worse though in that regard.

 

[Koalafied]

(http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=827499) I'm done here. See y'all later.😛

 

[Godlovesyou]

OP sometimes the source of social anxiety is thinking that others are better than you in some way. We are all equal. Some people may think, act, and speak as if they are better than others, but they aren't worth your time anyway. In the end we all die.

 

[SunsFun]

OP sometimes the source of social anxiety is thinking that others are better than you in some way. We are all equal. Some people may think, act, and speak as if they are better than others, but they aren't worth your time anyway. In the end we all die.

+1,

Don't feel like you need to impress someone or make friends with them if they don't appear interested in way you have to say. Just move on. Find people who have interest similar to yours, easy to have a conversation with, and genuinely enjoy to hang out with you.

 

[Mel Belle]

OP sometimes the source of social anxiety is thinking that others are better than you in some way. We are all equal. Some people may think, act, and speak as if they are better than others, but they aren't worth your time anyway. In the end we all die.

It can be hard to grow out of an inferiority complex, though. Especially if you grew up in a scapegoat/golden child family dynamic as the scapegoat. I did. If that applies to you, OP, it takes time but it can be worked on. I'm still working on it. And it sucks. But at least I'm working on it rather than blaming the world, right?

 

[Status Sciaticus]

🙄 Please don't. Why do people on SDN rely on tired gender stereotypes so often? I doubt length of phone conversations is correlated with how much a person likes to talk about themselves. Plenty of people avoid long talks on the phone but will go on for ages about themselves if they're talking to an interested member of the opposite sex. Or they'll write out their whole life story on a blog or something. Men and women both.

Because stereotypes come from SOMEWHERE... and yes its a generalization, but thats all anything ever is. You cant make statements that apply to everything because there is always an exception.

This kind of thing has always struck me as wayyyy overthinking it. I have some buddies that are like this - when we're at the bars, they always try to come up with a "game plan" or some ridiculous story/question to randomly tell. Sometimes this can be hilarious (like when you introduce one of your buddies as a foreigner or something) but usually it's forced and gimmicky. And that shows. The less you think about it, the less you really try, the easier it is to talk to/meet girls. That's been my experience anyway.

Also, deliberately lowering a girl's self-esteem isn't exactly the key to a girl's heart. Maybe if she's extremely psycho; otherwise most girls are generally not made to feel at ease when some random guy insults them. I mean a little teasing is fine, but the point isn't to lower her self-esteem, quite the opposite - it's obvious flirting and therefore a compliment. I'm not an expert or anything but I've always done just fine talking to attractive girls like normal people.

+1
I may tease someone about how dorky she looks or something playful, but not to the point where you make her feel like crap. difference between flirting and attacking, folks.

Me too! I'm getting concerned, honestly. I don't want people who think like that to become doctors.

Thankfully, it isnt up to you. If you dont want students with conservative thinking to become doctors, then you yourself are discriminating against another group.

too late

👍

 

[Ismet]

I have to agree with everything The Bunk has said. Women are human beings and treating them as such (rather than a "game" to be "won") is the only way to have a genuine relationship. Every time a PUA has tried to "neg" me, I immediately lose any interest I might have had before and avoid them as much as possible from there on out.

I'm also incredibly bored by the level of sexism I see constantly on these boards.

Me too! I'm getting concerned, honestly. I don't want people who think like that to become doctors.

Ok, maybe I should have said "I don't want more people who think like that to become doctors." Some of the conversations I see on here are depressing as hell.

Lol take a trip on this thread and try not to rage: http://forums.dev.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1014194

 

[The Bunk]

Thankfully, it isnt up to you. If you dont want students with conservative thinking to become doctors, then you yourself are discriminating against another group.

🙄 It has nothing to do with being conservative. As a patient, I don't want a sexist doctor and it's not discriminatory to say so. Do you think people who are blatantly racist should be doctors?

 

[yehhhboiii]

🙄 It has nothing to do with being conservative. As a patient, I don't want a sexist doctor and it's not discriminatory to say so. Do you think people who are blatantly racist should be doctors?

well you are in for a surprise

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Lol take a trip on this thread and try not to rage: http://forums.dev.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1014194

Ahh that thread..... good times.

🙄 It has nothing to do with being conservative. As a patient, I don't want a sexist doctor and it's not discriminatory to say so. Do you think people who are blatantly racist should be doctors?

As a patient, I agree with you. However, if you are saying that you dont want conservative physicians as your colleagues, then yeah it is discriminatory.

well you are in for a surprise

Yea I've met a few, although no one is blatantly racist.

 

[Ismet]

🙄 It has nothing to do with being conservative. As a patient, I don't want a sexist doctor and it's not discriminatory to say so. Do you think people who are blatantly racist should be doctors?

There are plenty of doctors who are blatantly racist and sexist. Not saying it's okay by any means, but you'll meet plenty along the path to medicine.

 

[milkphlegm]

Well medicine is a conservative profession that attracts many "conservative" people. Older generation is even worse though in that regard.

I think someone else also implied this, but there's a difference between conservatism and sexism, even if they may overlap in some individuals.

 

[The Bunk]

As a patient, I agree with you. However, if you are saying that you dont want conservative physicians as your colleagues, then yeah it is discriminatory.

What is with this straw man you keep bringing up? I haven't said anything about conservatives.

There are plenty of doctors who are blatantly racist and sexist. Not saying it's okay by any means, but you'll meet plenty along the path to medicine.

Well, yeah. I know they're out there. I'm just saying I wish they weren't and the quality of conversations I see on this forum makes me depressed about the future.

Lol, everyone is acting like I have no idea about racism and sexism in the world. Everyone's like "You're gonna learn today!!!!" "Too late. You're in for a surprise," etc. I'm an adult. I am aware of these things. 🙄

 

[yehhhboiii]

huh i guess im everyone now
you're posting in a forum for premeds. obviously the maturity isn't at the same level as it would be for people who are finished training.
your posting leaves me with the impression that you are naive. i am just commenting on the fact

 

[The Bunk]

huh i guess im everyone now
you're posting in a forum for premeds. obviously the maturity isn't at the same level as it would be for people who are finished training.
your posting leaves me with the impression that you are naive. i am just commenting on the fact

I didn't mean to single you out. Several people have made comments along the same lines that you did. Premeds aren't necessarily immature, but some of them clearly are. I'd guess I'm probably older than you. I just haven't gotten into med school yet.

 

[milkphlegm]

I didn't mean to single you out. Several people have made comments along the same lines that you did. Premeds aren't necessarily immature, but some of them clearly are. I'd guess I'm probably older than you. I just haven't gotten into med school yet.

👍 Your posting leaves me with the impression you are quite the opposite of naive.

 

[SunsFun]

huh i guess im everyone now
you're posting in a forum for premeds. obviously the maturity isn't at the same level as it would be for people who are finished training.
your posting leaves me with the impression that you are naive. i am just commenting on the fact

Attendings are nowhere near as mature as many premeds think. For proof visit Sociopolitical forum and wolf den. Some of the drama there is worse than high school while the political views express make yahoo trolls look moderate in comparison.

 

[SunsFun]

I think someone else also implied this, but there's a difference between conservatism and sexism, even if they may overlap in some individuals.

Yeah I realize that. That's why the quotation marks. In my view medicine attracts a lot of a-holes because it is well-compensated and prestigious. Those people are not stupid and often great liars to get through the application process. The problem start during rotation and residency when residents blame patients for being too stupid, unable to speak English, and waste of their time in general (heard it myself). Because, you know, they did everything perfectly well, it is just patients who suck and helping them is a waste of time.

 

[xffan624]

I'm also incredibly bored by the level of sexism I see constantly on these boards.

+1, add a slightly concerned... check out the "Social Life in Medicine" thread if you want to see some real misogyny in action.

Thankfully, my actual colleagues in school seem to be a little more enlightened.

 

[milkphlegm]

Yeah I realize that. That's why the quotation marks. In my view medicine attracts a lot of a-holes because it is well-compensated and prestigious. Those people are not stupid and often great liars to get through the application process. The problem start during rotation and residency when residents blame patients for being too stupid, unable to speak English, and waste of their time in general (heard it myself). Because, you know, they did everything perfectly well, it is just patients who suck and helping them is a waste of time.

I realized you realized this, I was pointing it out to other posters 🙂

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Attendings are nowhere near as mature as many premeds think. For proof visit Sociopolitical forum and wolf den. Some of the drama there is worse than high school while the political views express make yahoo trolls look moderate in comparison.

you have any specific links?

 

[amazing tekkers]

One piece of advice. Avoid viewing uncovered women performing depraved acts on the internets. No girl will agree to that. You'll find though, that your ability to socially connect with the other gender will increase several folds.

 

[milkphlegm]

One piece of advice. Avoid viewing uncovered women performing depraved acts on the internets. No girl will agree to that. You'll find though, that your ability to socially connect with the other gender will increase several folds.

😕

 

[qavaler]

If you want a good advice about girls this is not the thread to read haha

 

[dbeast]

Lol take a trip on this thread and try not to rage: http://forums.dev.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1014194

Wow, this happened during step 1 studying, can't believe I missed it! Gandalf, glad to see you haven't been expelled from planet earth.

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Wow, this happened during step 1 studying, can't believe I missed it! Gandalf, glad to see you haven't been expelled from planet earth.

Glad you enjoyed it. I don't think they would ban me for arguing a point of view.
I'd bet even some mods have gotten a few kicks out of it.

 

[amazing tekkers]

Glad you enjoyed it. I don't think they would ban me for arguing a point of view.
I'd bet even some mods have gotten a few kicks out of it.

Enjoyable thread indeed.

😕

He will understand.

 

[Doudline]

When women realize I am homosexual, they come like flies. Maybe you should try that OP.

 

[yehhhboiii]

When women realize I am homosexual, they come like flies. Maybe you should try that OP.

Instructions unclear

 

[Mornhavon]

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[pepes1lv1a]

Step 1- Be gay

Step 2- Chicks let their guard down

Step 3- Sneak it in

Genius. Like the salmon masquerading as females.

As a female, yes, do this. Try bringing a guy friend with you to a bar and kissing him. Chicks dig bi dudes. If it doesn't work you're not using enough tongue 👍

 

[Mel Belle]

🙄

 

[Mornhavon]

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[nvnme]

"What?"

I have an extremely deep voice and have had this issue since I was 16. I was always a fast talker but I just had to slow down. Pronouncing the words clearer and making sure I'm speaking up without shouting really helped.