Sodium Disorders

[Lisochka]

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I suck at these! I can't memorize them! Help! Do you guys have any mnemonics?

 

[Its Z]

Like hypo-hyper or euvolemic hypo-hyper natremia?

 

[Lisochka]

yep! Like euvolemic hypo/hypernatremia, hypovolemic hypo/hyper natremia and so on...

 

[rxlea]

If you understand the physiology, they are easy to understand.

Think about how cells operate, what is traded for what...

 

[Lisochka]

If you understand the physiology, they are easy to understand.

Think about how cells operate, what is traded for what...

Can you tell me please what is your thinking/understanding/reasoning?

 

[notafraid87]

Can you tell me please what is your thinking?

There's a reason why we use hypo/hyper/iso to describe various conditions of the cell. Natremia = what word do you see there? natrium=sodium
volemia = volume (of liquid)

Scientists don't make words up from their imagination...break down the words and you will most likely get a good understanding of what the word/term will probably mean. As mentioned, if you studied physiology, you can visualize the mechanism going on in the human body.

*Don't know about mnemonics, can't help there.

 

[Lisochka]

There's a reason why we use hypo/hyper/iso to describe various conditions of the cell. Natremia = what word do you see there? natrium=sodium
volemia = volume (of liquid)

Scientists don't make words up from their imagination...break down the words and you will most likely get a good understanding of what the word/term will probably mean. As mentioned, if you studied physiology, you can visualize the mechanism going on in the human body.

*Don't know about mnemonics, can't help there.

YOu kidding, right?
Is that the depth of your understanding of my question?

Have you ever gone to a pharmacy school?
The question I posted is not a third grade question; therefore it requires a not a third grade answer!
common, I know you are smarter than that!

 

[Its Z]

There's no easy way to learn this. You need a thorough knowledge of fluid dynamics of physiology and electrolyte imbalance. Which means you will need to know other electrolyte imbalances. I say you buckle down and learn it. This is a very important topic.

 

[gsRx]

YOu kidding, right?
Is that the depth of your understanding of my question?

Have you ever gone to a pharmacy school?
The question I posted is not a third grade question; therefore it requires a not a third grade answer!
common, I know you are smarter than that!

Do you remember the concept of osmotic flow and the consequences of hypertonicity and hypotonicity? Thats a start.

Euvolemic Hypo/Hypernatremia = Normal Volume, you can consider volume non-factor in the apparent electrolyte disturbance.

Conceptually, when we say person is hypervolemic in the presence of normal Na+, try and visualize a hyponatremia that is caused indirectly due to an abnormally high fluid volume.

When the patient is hypovolemic, same concept, try and visualize otherwise normal Na+ that is now elevated to hypernatremia because of abnormally low fluid volume.

 

[Lisochka]

There's no easy way to learn this. You need a thorough knowledge of fluid dynamics of physiology and electrolyte imbalance. Which means you will need to know other electrolyte imbalances. I say you buckle down and learn it. This is a very important topic.

Yeah... I just spent one hour and I think I got it...It does not even seem that hard...
I only looked at hypo/hypernatremia of hyper/hypo/euvolemia causes/ treatments. I have not looked at eunatremia at all... So far what I have looked at looks pretty easy...

 

[notafraid87]

YOu kidding, right?
Is that the depth of your understanding of my question?

Have you ever gone to a pharmacy school?
The question I posted is not a third grade question; therefore it requires a not a third grade answer!
common, I know you are smarter than that!

Hahaha, calm down, I was just trying to help. Actually, I think I kinda answered your question. During physiology class in college, the best way to memorize those terms is to understand the physiological mechanisms. Just memorizing the terms and functions one by one is too much to handle, imo.

But once I start pharmacy school this fall, maybe I'll understand your sentiment.