Specialties question.

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joseclar said:
Which are considered to be the most lucrative dental specialties? Thanks.

Infact anyone of them....as long as you develop Passion for it and take Pride in it.....Any speciality will Pay you back.

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joseclar said:
Which are considered to be the most lucrative dental specialties? Thanks.

Prosthodontics and oral pathology.
 
joseclar said:
Which are considered to be the most lucrative dental specialties? Thanks.


You can do Oral Surgery and make mad money but also work killer hours, or you can be a crazy general dentist like Dr. Larry Rosenthal and do veneers on celebs all day and make even more cash.
 
Rosenthal is a joke
 
Most lucrative? Probably endo. Most boring? Probably endo.
 
CorneliusFudge said:
Prosthodontics and oral pathology.
Were you trying to say here that prosthos don't make that much money? Cause prosthodontists are doing extremely well these days. They definitely rank up there.

To answer the OPs question, all of the specialties (except for the more academic ones like oral pathology, oral radiology) can be extremely lucrative, as long as you're willing to work and you have some business sense. Ranking them on a scale of lucrativeness is pointless though, cause it all depends on your hours, where you live, scope of your practice (i.e. some orthodontists work out of hospitals, some cater to the uber-wealthy in private practices), etc.
 
aphistis said:
No way, man. Oral & maxillofacial radiology, or dental public health...that's where the big bucks are. 😉
Really?

According to ADA (2005) article on Advanced Dental Education, they did a survey based on the average salary for dental specialties back in 2001.

- Oral Maxillofacial $336,000
- Endodontics $303,900
- Pediatrics $294,430
- Orthodontics $279,440
- Periodontics 216,430
- Prosthodontics $190,972
- Oral Pathology N/A
- Oral Radiology N/A
- Public Health N/A

I would think Ortho ranked 2nd or 3rd. 🙄

Source: ADA: Advanced Dental Education (2005)
 
Cold Front said:
Really?

According to ADA (2005) article on Advanced Dental Education, they did a survey based on the average salary for dental specialties back in 2001.

- Oral Maxillofacial $336,000
- Endodontics $303,900
- Pediatrics $294,430
- Orthodontics $279,440
- Periodontics 216,430
- Prosthodontics $190,972
- Oral Pathology N/A
- Oral Radiology N/A
- Public Health N/A

I would think Ortho ranked 2nd or 3rd. 🙄

Source: ADA: Advanced Dental Education (2005)

Good info, but like SuperTrooper said, it depends on where you practice and how much time you want to put in. Those numbers certainly do well to tell us a bit about the potential of each specialty, but they aren't the entire story.

For example, Ortho could be below the other specialties because orthos generally work fewer days than other specialitsts, or something like that.
 
ItsGavinC said:
Ortho could be below the other specialties because orthos generally work fewer days than other specialitsts, or something like that.

Probably.

What's more interesting is, the study/survey was done back in 2001. 5 years later, you would expect a raise for each specialty with respect to inflation rate. Typically it's about 2-4% in most professions, it's hard to say what the real numbers are for now - while tuition rates are going up about 10% each year. 🙄
 
Cold Front said:
Probably.

What's more interesting is, the study/survey was done back in 2001. 5 years later, you would expect a raise for each specialty with respect to inflation rate. Typically it's about 2-4% in most professions, it's hard to say what the real numbers are for now - while tuition rates are going up about 10% each year. 🙄


I would think salary has been increasing faster than inflation rate b/c of the increasing demand for "good looking" teeth and important of oral health. Also increase in good technology. All the dentists I know increase fees every year at a little higher than inflation rate.
 
As a veteran of the dental industry (I've worked for manufacturers of materials and equipment for 15 years), I can tell you that the place to be for most people desiring a specialty is Orthodontics. IMHO, it's the best combination of stress-free, low-hours, flexible time, great money, and patients that will always be coming in the door (there has been little or no work done on the vaccine that makes teeth come in well-aligned). Adults continue to get on board the straight-teeth bandwagon as well, and techniques and materials get shorter, more esthetic, and more comfortable. Short-term and long-term, ortho looks great.

Now, if I only had that time machine for myself and could go back 20 years ago when I chose Journalism and Business at undergrad...
 
grownup said:
As a veteran of the dental industry (I've worked for manufacturers of materials and equipment for 15 years), I can tell you that the place to be for most people desiring a specialty is Orthodontics. IMHO, it's the best combination of stress-free, low-hours, flexible time, great money, and patients that will always be coming in the door (there has been little or no work done on the vaccine that makes teeth come in well-aligned). Adults continue to get on board the straight-teeth bandwagon as well, and techniques and materials get shorter, more esthetic, and more comfortable. Short-term and long-term, ortho looks great.

Now, if I only had that time machine for myself and could go back 20 years ago when I chose Journalism and Business at undergrad...
Of course, that combination is also why ortho admissions is a ferociously competitive business.
 
aphistis said:
Of course, that combination is also why ortho admissions is a ferociously competitive business.

You got it. However, I also see that changing in 5-10 years, maybe not soon enough to ease the competition for you if you are leaning that way. The change? There will not be enough specialists to do all the work -- especially in ortho and endo. Look for some game-changing trends like relaxed specialty admissions requirements coupled with more money-generating faculty practices. There will have to be more specialists trained, and dental schools will have to stay open and financially sound to train them.
 
Was it Rosenthal who just married that girl Jenn who was a contestant on this past Apprentice season? I think I saw the two in T.V, they live in some huge mansion in the Hollywood Hills...

therefore Rosenthal is definitely not a joke, he's a champ
 
Are There Any Oral Surgeon Residency Where You Don't Have To Work In A Hospital??
 
Memphis10 said:
Are There Any Oral Surgeon Residency Where You Don't Have To Work In A Hospital??

Nope
 
Memphis10 said:
Are There Any Oral Surgeon Residency Where You Don't Have To Work In A Hospital??
Yeah, it's called Periodontics.

Why would you not want to work in a hospital for oral surgery? How do you plan on learning how to do orthognathics, rib or iliac crest bone grafts, or coronal flaps?

Are there Pedo residencies where you don't have to treat kids?
 
toofache32 said:
Are there Pedo residencies where you don't have to treat kids?


Yeah it's called geriatrics :laugh:
 
ItsGavinC said:
Good info, but like SuperTrooper said, it depends on where you practice and how much time you want to put in. Those numbers certainly do well to tell us a bit about the potential of each specialty, but they aren't the entire story.

For example, Ortho could be below the other specialties because orthos generally work fewer days than other specialitsts, or something like that.
But I think the numbers are meant to be an average and gives us a rough ball park of what the specialties stand.

Let's say if there is an ortho and a omfs that practice in a region that has the same demand for each specialty, then omfs would make more. My point is that even though these are only averages, and true that the number will vary depending on where one practice and the amount of time invested, but if one standardized the need, and the time invested, then on average, an omfs will make more than an ortho. ok. that was a bit redundant, but I don't feel like editing. Hope my point is conveyed. What do you think?
 
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