Sprouting wood during physical exam

[dmoneydoc]

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Does anyone else have this problem? I sometimes get a bit aroused when examining an attractive female standardized patient or an attractive patient at my preceptors office. How do you remain professional and control yourself?

Thanks. 🙁

 

[deuist]

You could always tape yourself down. The real question is how far is too far? Where do you draw the line with a patient? Second base? Third base?

 

[cdql]

Keeping your pants on is a key component of remaining professional and controlled.

Whipping it out and about is inappropriate.

Unless the patient is really attractive.

In which case, it's a toss-up!

 

[dmoneydoc]

Good advice. 😛

 

[dmoneydoc]

Are you talking about dating a patient Deuist? I was being serious. I'm not talking about dating patients, just remaining professional.

 

[dradams]

Does anyone else have this problem? I sometimes get a bit aroused when examining an attractive female standardized patient or an attractive patient at my preceptors office. How do you remain professional and control yourself?

Thanks. 🙁

Hey, sometimes it happens. 😎

 

[deuist]

Unless the patient is really attractive.

In which case, it's a toss-up!

You're being sarcastic, but I once had an attractive daughter of a patient hit on me once.

 

[dradams]

You're being sarcastic, but I once had an attractive daughter of a patient hit on me once.

Is that unethical? The daughter is not your patient.

 

[dmoneydoc]

I don't think dating the daughter would be unethical. Of course, look who's talking. I get a chubby anytime I palpate a semi-attractive person of the opposite sex.

 

[Law2Doc]

Does anyone else have this problem? I sometimes get a bit aroused when examining an attractive female standardized patient or an attractive patient at my preceptors office. How do you remain professional and control yourself?

Thanks. 🙁

I suppose you could find a quiet place and let the air out of the balloon before seeing patients. Or drop an ice cube down your shorts ahead of time. Or visualize something extremely unattractive -- a pustulent rash perhaps.
Then there are a zillion drugs that would make erections difficult, but it would have to be an extremely serious problem to resort to that.

 

[dmoneydoc]

I suppose you could find a quiet place and let the air out of the balloon before seeing patients. Or drop an ice cube down your shorts ahead of time. Or visualize something extremely unattractive -- a pustulent rash perhaps.
Then there are a zillion drugs that would make erections difficult, but it would have to be an extremely serious problem to resort to that.

Now that is some good advice. 👍

 

[deuist]

Or visualize something extremely unattractive

That's what I do: Eleanor Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt!

 

[dmoneydoc]

That's what I do: Eleanor Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt!

That could definitely work. 😱

 

[AmoryBlaine]

Use it to tap out DTRs.






Sorry.

 

[dmoneydoc]

Use it to tap out DTRs.

😀

 

[DW3843]

walking around with a loaded gun can be dangerous. know what I mean?

 

[n3ur05ur930n]

walking around with a loaded gun can be dangerous. know what I mean?

I recommend EMS.

Early Morning Sex. 😍

 

[Law2Doc]

I recommend EMS.

Early Morning Sex. 😍

If the dude is getting turned on regularly by patients, odds are he doesn't have this option.

 

[dmoneydoc]

If the dude is getting turned on regularly by patients, odds are he doesn't have this option.

Very perceptive, Law2Doc. 🙁

 

[synapse lapse]

Sub-Par Execution of Regular Masturbation Syndrome (SPERMS) is a serious issue among medical students. I suggest you look into some behavioral therapy to treat this syndrome.

 

[dmoneydoc]

Sub-Par Execution of Regular Masturbation Syndrome (SPERMS) is a serious issue among medical students. I suggest you look into some behavioral therapy to treat this syndrome.

I asked one of my psych teachers and she said that cognitive behavioral therapy is only about 5% effective in the treatment of SPERMS.

 

[deuist]

Is that a pen light in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

Hope you didn't have your heart set on OB 😀

 

[bigfrank]

That's what I do: Eleanor Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt, Eleanor Roosevelt!

Or you can try, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton!!!

Be careful, though, IT may involute to the point of no return though if these 3 words are uttered....

🙁

 

[bubbleyum]

not that i would presume to be any doctor's "type", but this seriously makes me want to seek out female doctors only if i should need any medical attention.

 

[cdql]

not that i would presume to be any doctor's "type", but this seriously makes me want to seek out female doctors only if i should need any medical attention.

You may still run into a similar problem if you choose to go that route 😉

 

[Med_Leviathan]

not that i would presume to be any doctor's "type", but this seriously makes me want to seek out female doctors only if i should need any medical attention.

Boo hoo.

 

[bubbleyum]

Boo hoo.

i would like to know what's wrong with wanting a doctor who would be concentrating on treating my medical problem rather than being distracted by sexual urges he can't control??

 

[Vox Animo]

i would like to know what's wrong with wanting a doctor who would be concentrating on treating my medical problem rather than being distracted by sexual urges he can't control??

Thats asking too much.

 

[deuist]

i would like to know what's wrong with wanting a doctor who would be concentrating on treating my medical problem rather than being distracted by sexual urges he can't control??

The problem with your statement is that you want a female doc, thereby implying that all men are suspect to having sexual urges and that females would not feel attractions to same-sex patients.

 

[bubbleyum]

The problem with your statement is that you want a female doc, thereby implying that all men are suspect to having sexual urges and that females would not feel attractions to same-sex patients.

i was not implying any such thing, or generalizing that all male med docs are sex addicts.

i was just commenting on the OP's post, because it brought up the notion that there *could* be some sexual thought going on in the doc's head during examination, which never really occured to me before. and now i'll be thinking about the possibility! most women don't like to be sexually objectified, especially when going to seek medical help.

chill out ppl.

 

[Law2Doc]

i was not implying any such thing, or generalizing that all male med docs are sex addicts.

i was just commenting on the OP's post, because it brought up the notion that there *could* be some sexual thought going on in the doc's head during examination, which never really occured to me before. and now i'll be thinking about the possibility! most women don't like to be sexually objectified, especially when going to seek medical help.

chill out ppl.

A female doctor could feel the same thing, and be having the same arousal reactions -- the patient and others just wouldn't have an external way of gauging it.

 

[Rafa]

A female doctor could feel the same thing, and be having the same arousal reactions -- the patient and others just wouldn't have an external way of gauging it.

Bingo.

 

[Dr. Weebs]

A female doctor could feel the same thing, and be having the same arousal reactions -- the patient and others just wouldn't have an external way of gauging it.

Exactamundo. How sexist. You could easily have a lesbian, bisexual, or bicurious female doctor and never know it. Men could easily have a gay, bisexual, or bicurious male doctor and never know it. Women could also have a perverted heterosexual male doctor and never know it. Men could also have a perverted heterosexual female doctor and never know it. The point is, Bubbleyum, that you are generalizing one specific situation to men as a whole, and you are implying that no woman would ever do such a thing. Pretty sexist and narrow-minded in my opinion. Women and their double-standards... if we ever said anything sexist about women we would get drilled.

 

[phatib]

Exactamundo. How sexist. You could easily have a lesbian, bisexual, or bicurious female doctor and never know it. Men could easily have a gay, bisexual, or bicurious male doctor and never know it. Women could also have a perverted heterosexual male doctor and never know it. Men could also have a perverted heterosexual female doctor and never know it. The point is, Bubbleyum, that you are generalizing one specific situation to men as a whole, and you are implying that no woman would ever do such a thing. Pretty sexist and narrow-minded in my opinion. Women and their double-standards... if we ever said anything sexist about women we would get drilled.

this is true, however with a female doc, it may be less obvious/noticeable to the patient if said doc is turned on

 

[hunter1077]

Wear you coat buttoned or put a book in front of it. I have been assured (by other HCPs) that this will not be a life long problem. After many exposures you will become "numb" to the sight of a breast or any other parts that may arouse you.

 

[Law2Doc]

Wear you coat buttoned or put a book in front of it. .

Either that or get an extra long stethoscope and keep the bell strategically placed.

 

[Paws]

Well, Paws is a girl and I have had a few really Awesome (and I mean, wow!) ob's examine me. Guys, of course. Let me tell you, as a patient, when your ob is an incredibly charming and let's just say it - sexy! guy, it can be damn hard to be thinking about the grocery list or whatever you are trying to focus on to not be thinking about him.

I think they should have a rule: only UGLY old corndogs (men) can be ob's. No hot, good looking young men !! Women are ok, for ob, but then I suppose it could be a problem for lesbians ... ok, too complicated for my usmle-addled brain. 😛

 

[Dr. Weebs]

Well, Paws is a girl and I have had a few really Awesome (and I mean, wow!) ob's examine me. Guys, of course. Let me tell you, as a patient, when your ob is an incredibly charming and let's just say it - sexy! guy, it can be damn hard to be thinking about the grocery list or whatever you are trying to focus on to not be thinking about him.

I think they should have a rule: only UGLY old corndogs (men) can be ob's. No hot, good looking young men !! Women are ok, for ob, but then I suppose it could be a problem for lesbians ... ok, too complicated for my usmle-addled brain. 😛

Haha... so it goes both ways... love it 🙂

Sounds like you and the OP might need to get together...

 

[bubbleyum]

Exactamundo. How sexist. You could easily have a lesbian, bisexual, or bicurious female doctor and never know it. Men could easily have a gay, bisexual, or bicurious male doctor and never know it. Women could also have a perverted heterosexual male doctor and never know it. Men could also have a perverted heterosexual female doctor and never know it. The point is, Bubbleyum, that you are generalizing one specific situation to men as a whole, and you are implying that no woman would ever do such a thing. Pretty sexist and narrow-minded in my opinion. Women and their double-standards... if we ever said anything sexist about women we would get drilled.

gimme a break. i make one random knee-jerk comment and ppl like you are all like " well that's not always the case. what about xxx and xxy situation? have you thought all that through? what you say is not 100% true all the time! what's your problem?" you all need to take your msg board posts a little less seriously.

anyhow, let's face it, no matter how attracted a female doc would be to her patient, she would not be visibly "sprouting wood" and be all self-conscious/distracted about it. and females are likely to feel physically "safer" around other females. at least most females that i know, from my own personal experience. that is ALL i'm saying and i did not mean anything sexist about it double standard blah blah blah.


geez. i blame myself for posting on a thread with the phrase "sprouting wood" in its title. 🙄

 

[Rafa]

anyhow, let's face it, no matter how attracted a female doc would be to her patient, she would not be visibly "sprouting wood" and be all self-conscious/distracted about it.

I'm not sure whether you're more afraid of the concept of an erect penis (which, incidentally, wouldn't be visible unless the doctor in question was wearing spandex/tight pants) or whether you are just uncomfortable around the male sex in these situations (which I suspect to be the case).
In either case, I assure you a female doctor would be just as capable of getting "self-conscious/distracted" as a male doctor. Unless you're in "see no evil = hear no evil" land, you'd be aware that doctors of either gender could, in particular situations, become aroused at this sort of thing. It isn't a sign of a bad doctor - it's more about hormonal reactions people don't necessarily have control over. As long as professionalism is maintained, I don't really see the problem in having a male/female doctor examine a female/male patient, or vice versa. 😎

 

[Dr. Weebs]

gimme a break. i make one random knee-jerk comment and ppl like you are all like " well that's not always the case. what about xxx and xxy situation? have you thought all that through? what you say is not 100% true all the time! what's your problem?" you all need to take your msg board posts a little less seriously.

anyhow, let's face it, no matter how attracted a female doc would be to her patient, she would not be visibly "sprouting wood" and be all self-conscious/distracted about it. and females are likely to feel physically "safer" around other females. at least most females that i know, from my own personal experience. that is ALL i'm saying and i did not mean anything sexist about it double standard blah blah blah.


geez. i blame myself for posting on a thread with the phrase "sprouting wood" in its title. 🙄

Maybe you should take what you type a little bit more seriously. Making "random knee-jerk comments" isn't always the most wise in a public forum. When communicating in a public forum, especially a forum such at this where people are usually pretty ingelligent and opinionated, you better realize that what you say will be taken at face value most of the time. People are not going to "give you a break". Personally, I would re-read my posts to make sure they're really what I want to say.

 

[Dr. Weebs]

Well, Paws is a girl and I have had a few really Awesome (and I mean, wow!) ob's examine me. Guys, of course. Let me tell you, as a patient, when your ob is an incredibly charming and let's just say it - sexy! guy, it can be damn hard to be thinking about the grocery list or whatever you are trying to focus on to not be thinking about him.

I think they should have a rule: only UGLY old corndogs (men) can be ob's. No hot, good looking young men !! Women are ok, for ob, but then I suppose it could be a problem for lesbians ... ok, too complicated for my usmle-addled brain. 😛

not that i would presume to be any patient's "type", but this seriously makes me want to seek out male patients only if i should need to fill my practice schedule.

 

[Diceman M.D.]

Dude...this would be SUCH an awesome excuse to get a "Prince Albert"...After all, situations like this were what that particular piercing was intended for! You know, because even if you're Queen Victoria's lover, you can't just pop a boner in the middle of the house of Lords...

 

[dajimmers]

I think you all need to stop picking on bubbleyum here; she's taking a valid patient's perspective, and you've all taken the elitist physician's perspective. Patients may indeed (unknowingly) get sexually interested male or female physicians. But I think it's reasonable to, if not assume, at least want to question whether this A) results in lowered medical care and B) is more likely to occur with male physicians than females. Many of us, if we were seeking critical medical care, would like to know if our physician is an established attending or just a young resident because we assume a different standard of care may result. It's not a given, but the likelihood may be that attendings and female OBs give better medical care. I think the issue warrants our concern, not quick reprobation.

 

[cdql]

It's not a given, but the likelihood may be that attendings and female OBs give better medical care.

To quote Dr. Cox, "Oh danger! Oh danger newbie!"

That's a slippery slope.

If today we assume that female OBs may give better medical care, then tomorrow, it will be okay to assume that my minority patients may knife me. (After all, it is more likely that they engage in violent acts)

Not a good way to think in a hospital!

 

[getunconcsious]

Does anyone else have this problem? I sometimes get a bit aroused when examining an attractive female standardized patient or an attractive patient at my preceptors office. How do you remain professional and control yourself?

Thanks. 🙁

ATTRACTIVE standardized patients? Seriously? They have those?

The only SP's I've ever seen are obese women. Is that just a houston thing?

The idea of SP's that are not obese and hideous simply boggles my mind....

 

[red dot]

1) maybe you should wear a jock strap or whatever it's called -- you know the kind that's hard and is made of plastic and they wear it while playing baseball? (sorry i'm lacking that vocabulary, i'm on painkillers, it's late, and i don't watch sports)
that way, whatever happens, it'll always be, um, the same shape! well, unless your erection pops it right off.

2) or maybe you should just uh, clean the pipes, before every examination, since you never know who you're going to get. just remember to wash your hands...

 

[red dot]

I think you all need to stop picking on bubbleyum here; she's taking a valid patient's perspective, and you've all taken the elitist physician's perspective. Patients may indeed (unknowingly) get sexually interested male or female physicians. But I think it's reasonable to, if not assume, at least want to question whether this A) results in lowered medical care and B) is more likely to occur with male physicians than females. Many of us, if we were seeking critical medical care, would like to know if our physician is an established attending or just a young resident because we assume a different standard of care may result. It's not a given, but the likelihood may be that attendings and female OBs give better medical care. I think the issue warrants our concern, not quick reprobation.

i totally agree. just because a person has a doctorate degree doesn't put them above "unethical ideas" in their heads, and if a patient understands this they have every right to worry about unethical outcomes of those ideas. case in point (and this may be too much info but i think it's relevant): when i was a kid, i had a pediatrician who ALWAYS had my knee in his crotch during exams, even though my mom was always watching like hawk in the room. after 3 visits like that, i switched to a female pediatrician.
the idea that a doctor, who is supposed to be focused only on your chief complaint, being sexually aroused while physically examining you 1) can and will make you feel uncomfortable and 2) should have you questioning whether or not his/her mind is 100% on the job. for example this is a huge reason why, road head (for lack of a better example right now) is illegal.

 

[drmota]

I recommend EMS.

Early Morning Sex. 😍

that usually just makes me hornier for the rest of the day. bad idea

screw all this babble about ethics and shlt. just make a joke about it. like "is that my stethoscope or am i just happy to see you?" if they don't laugh, just give them some antibiotics and move on to the next patient.
-mota