St John's University

[poolshark333]

I'm a High School Senior and just visited St John's. The campus, dorms, library seemed terrific. The campus is pretty much self contained. As a girl, the campus felt safe (I stayed in the dorms one night and walked around that evening). I spoke to several pharmacy profs and came away with a very good impression.

For anyone familiar with St John's, can you please give me your pro's and con's of the pharmacy school?

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...raduate-schools/top-pharmacy-schools/rankings

According to USNews, its ranked 61 out of 61 pharm schools, which is not good. Anyone know why its ranked so low?
I spoke to student in the library who said the first 2 years were a joke but P1 was really hard. I wished I asked for clarification. I'm assuming that the few two years (pre-pharm) was pretty easy.
Anyone know what the Pharmacy Student body composition is (M vs F, ethnicity...)?

I will be visiting University of Rhode Island and Northeastern shortly.

Rutgers seemed too big for me. Busing between campuses (waiting for buses, trying to schedule classes) not for me.

Same goes for Buffalo...

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[poolshark333]

bump... Must not be a very good school... no one has any comment about it one way or the other !!

 

[No Time To Lift]

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I would also like to hear some personal opinions on St. John's.

 

[Ttennis31590]

Anyone know what the Pharmacy Student body composition is (M vs F, ethnicity...)?

Same goes for Buffalo...

For the most part, I have found that most of the schools that post statistics on M vs F is around 40%/60% respectively

 

[Mykani]

I don't personally go to St.Johns but I have friends who do.
According to my friends, St. Johns is a "joke" in the beginning since the first two years you take pre-reqs for graduation, meaning the classes have nothing to do with pharmacy. One class my friend in freshmen year was complaining about was called "Exploring New York" (or along those lines) saying it was a waste of time/credit.

St.Johns has a low rank probably because of its low graduation rate as they accept a fair amount of people freshmen year and unfortunately students get weeded out as courses get more difficult the last few years.

 

[Passion4Sci]

Looking at the data I do believe SJF has one of the lowest NAPLEX passing rates for 1st time test takers.

That might have something to do with it, too.

 

[Nubianssense]

SJF is not the same as St. John's University. Despite what people are saying here it is very difficult to get into St. John's University pharmacy school. Its even harder to finish the program. The curriculm is very difficult and thats why people have negative things to say about it. When people say its a joke they mean its terribly harddddd. It just gets crazier and crazier as the years go by. You will have to kiss you social life good bye right now.. Getting into St. John's is almost impossible you will notice that most people who get into other 0-6 programs don't get into St. John's program. Good luck though if you get in let me know..

Looking at the data I do believe SJF has one of the lowest NAPLEX passing rates for 1st time test takers.

That might have something to do with it, too.

 

[poolshark333]

So far, I've been accepted into:
Rutgers
Northeastern
URI

I haven't heard yet from the University of Buffalo nor St John's . Has anyone been accepted into Saint John's for the 2010 Fall?

 

[2016pharmd]

The letter just came today.
I've also been accepted to USP, URI, MCPHS and WNEC (new 2/4 program).

The only campus I haven't seen yet is URI. I need to visit asap to make a decision.

I haven't heard from Rutgers but also thought that campus was too big.

 

[sjt]

My acceptance letter was dated December 21.
With full scholarship for four years, too! Makes me more interested in this lol...
Just wondering.. how is St. John's pharm program viewed by others? I know its not a big deal, I'm just curious since I dont really know anyone who has done pharmacy

Haven't heard back from Rutgers yet either...

 

[hydraphoenix15]

I live pretty close to St. Johns and I have a few friends that got into the Joint PharmD program from high school. Most of them complain that the tuition they charge isn't worth it, but I'm guessing the biggest problem is how low they set their standards. They only need a 2.3GPA to stay in the program which is a C+ or a 3.0 to maintain their scholarship. That's for the joint pharm program they have, I dunno about the pharmacy school itself.

As for Buffalo, yeah the 15min bus ride from North to South campus sucks, but all of my friends love it up there, there's a lot to do in Buffalo and when I visited, the students up there were all pretty cool. Plus I hear the classes there are KINDA easy.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

FWIW I've worked with two recent grads from St. Johns and they were both excellent Pharmacists.

 

[poolshark333]

So far, I've been accepted into:
Rutgers
Northeastern
URI
and now St Johns University (Dec 26th)

I haven't heard yet from the University of Buffalo

Both UB and Rutgers are pretty spread out and you need to take buses.

I was really impressed with the STJ campus, dorms and library. URI is building a new building just for Pharmacy but also seems to be a party school. Northeastern has a pretty good co-op program. URI and Northeastern seems to have a pretty solid PharmD program.

 

[speciald]

Regarding UB, you actually don't have to take buses between campuses your first year unless you happen to live on South Campus. Second year you may have to because A&P are only offered on South. Plan for 30 minutes travel time between campuses in case you have to wait for a bus. The best way not to live on South is to send in your deposit and housing choices asap after you're acceped - you can do it all online and they're refundable until May 1st - but alot of people on South really like it there. If you're offered honors housing, that's closest to the spine and easily walkable. Once you're on the spine, all of the academic buildings, student union, and libraries are connected. If you choose the pre-health LLC, undergrad academies, Acker Scholer, etc. you'll be housed in Ellicott on North Campus. It's about a 10 minute walk to the spine or there are buses running continually through the tunnel under Ellicott. It's actually really convenient and keeps you out of the winter weather! But UB is not a hilly campus and is not difficult to walk at all.