For those who have interviewed at St Louis University, how did you find this new Emergency Medicine program? Positive vibe? Negative vibe? How wasa the interview? The facilities? Will you rank them after seeing what you have seen?
I didn't interview there, so this is thirdhand information from the trail.For those who have interviewed at St Louis University, how did you find this new Emergency Medicine program? Positive vibe? Negative vibe? How wasa the interview? The facilities? Will you rank them after seeing what you have seen?
I interviewed there and did not have to demonstrate anything other than the ability to interview well and look interested.I didn't interview there, so this is thirdhand information from the trail.
But for what it's worth, I've heard that people are being asked to demonstrate line placement technique on interview day. Whether it's true or just one of those rumors that gets started I can't say.
I'm a student at SLU and wanted to give you guys some insight into why WashU will come up often at interviews.I interviewed there a while back. In general it seems like a good program. Let me preface this by saying that I am a very critical person so I pick apart every program...alot.
1.) Wash U: SLU isn't Wash U but the name seemed to keep coming up during my interview day. At one point while eating lunch, they pointed out where Wash U was...That's great and all but, I'd already interviewed at Wash U and I was there in St Louis that day to hear about SLU. I kind of got the "living in the shadow" sort of feeling. SLU seems like their going to be a good program, I think they should forget Wash U and stick to their selling points. For comparison, I didn't hear about SLU when I was at Wash U until an interviewee brought it up when asking about housing.
2.) Small/outdated ED: 20 rooms is small. It seems to have really good pt throughput though. And, the acuity seems very good.
3.) No OB: In my mind that is a problem. They do see occaisional OB patient, but can't admit any. That's not reflective of most ED's. Luckily you will get some ED experience while there on offservice rotations.
4.) New program: This can be good and bad. You've probably already got opinions about this so, I'll leave it at that.
As an aside, I've heard a lot of negative things from others who've interviewed there.
I spent a little bit of time in the ED there and the small size didn't seem to be that big of an issue. I didn't see any OB, but I didn't see quite a bit of acuity including some decent trauma. I was never asked to do any lines. We went to a nice restuarant that was located in a hotel on campus for the night before. Both residents (from other services were there) and ED attendings. It was a pretty benign experience and it had the same feel as most other pre interview socials. Despite being in other specialties, the residents were really useful. If you think about it they can answer most of your questions about a program (housing, cost of living, night life, perks).
1.) The interviewers were pretty laid back.
2.) They have a nice sim lab.
3.) Cardinal Glennon (Peds) is a great hospital.
4.) St Louis is a great city with a lot to do and great cost of living.
5.) SLU faculty started Wash U's program (I told you I heard a lot about Wash U).
As previously mentioned the ED is SMALL and seemed dated equiptment wise (though they recently went to electronic records) and has curtains over most rooms. They claim to be getting ready to revamp it all. The hospital in general is in a bad area of St. Louis which is great if you looking for knife and gun club experience, not so good if you want to roll out of bed and land in the parking lot. There are good places to live in St Louis though that are pretty close by. The rest of the hospital seems...poor. It's a bit dark on most floors and a bit of a maze to navigate, but it's nothing you wouldn't figure out after a few months.
Overall, my impression was still somehow positive. It'll probably rank at the top.
This is not a problem at all. Nearly all of the faculty have been very helpful and interested in my learning through two different rotations I've completed at the SLU ED (clinical and administrative). There are one or two people who I have had personality clashes with (inherent to life), but all in all, the reason I'm going into emergency medicine is because of the enthusiasm these people had in teaching me. I imagine since they've been good to me, they'll be good to the residents, especially since they've been gung-ho on getting the program off the ground.Possibilities that I'm considering for these "bad things that I'm hearing":
1. Faculty with bad/uninterested/malignant attitude; especially true if you get the sense that they "can't be bothered with residents".
To be honest, the facility is not great and fairly dated. It is comparable to the Maricopa ED on a smaller scale, if you have interviewed there. It definitely has a county feel to it, considering the patient population (inner city/poor) and the acuity (high trauma and admission rate, many complicated patients who waited too long to come to the ED). If you're looking for glass doors and plasmas in every room, this is not the place to come. However, you will never find yourself at a lack for resources or supplies. You have access to anything and everything you need.2. Poor facility/poor support staff.
The location is all a matter of personal opinion. It is a medium-sized midwestern city. If you want Chicago or NY, St. Louis might not be for you. However, if you could live in cities like Milwaukee, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Cleveland, or Cinci, St. Louis is comparable. You have plenty of sports (NFL, NHL, MLB, NCAA Div I) and nightlife locations (Laclede's Landing, Soulard, Wash Ave.) if that's important to you. All ethnic foods are represented (one of my favorite places is a Vietnamese place not far from the hospital). I'm married, so I can't comment on the singles scene, but my single friends have never complained. One unique aspect of St. Louis is Forest Park. It is in the dead center of the city and was the site of the 1904 World's Fair. It's bigger than NY's Central Park and almost everything in it free. This includes the Zoo, Art museums, the History museum, running paths, bike paths, an ice-skating rink, and all kinds of sport fields. Even the outdoor theatre there has free nosebleed seats. Forest Park alone makes it a great city for residents with kids. You don't have to break the bank to keep them busy. Overall, most city people should be happy unless you need NY, Chicago, the ocean, or mountains.3. Poor location/poor salary/poor housing options.
SLU graduated its first class of EM residents in (I believe) 2012. Most of the posts in this thread are older (dated at bottom of post), that's why I was hoping for an update since they've since graduated a full class and had a few years under their belt. You are correct, though, U of Missouri is new this year.Isn't the Columbia the new program, not SLU? If you look at the accreditation history on the ACGME website, it's the University of Missouri that's the new program without residents. The other MO programs have full compliments.
Wow, even derm interviews don't do that. That abrasive line of question is fully expected from foreign-born IMGs (which he is).And then I met the PD…
I had a timed 3-4 minutes to ask him questions and I asked my usual Q’s “strengths, weaknesses, changes coming, etc” and we chatted nicely. Then he started asking me things in this really abrasive, accusatory tone. “Why didn’t you get honors?” (I did get honors in X,Y,Z) “Well yes, but those are the easy clerkships. Why didn’t you honor everything?” (insert calm answer about how I worked hard and got good feedback, etc) “Yes, but you still didn’t get honors.”