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Hi there, I am interested in starting my own practice, however I have no idea how to begin. If I could get a breakdown of what steps I need to take that would be very helpful. I am in Florida btw.
Thank you, very helpful.Florida has very high temperatures. I would make sure that your office has an air conditioning system.
Even better - UVC lights built-in 😜Florida has very high temperatures. I would make sure that your office has an air conditioning system.
Yes, you do. your DME MAC will do an in person check of your dispensing location in fact.Thank you all for the replies, my main question is, do i need to have a physical location to then begin the credentialing process for insurances? Seems odd to pay rent for months before seeing any patients.
As stated already….yes, unless you are just doing Medi/Medi nursing home. For nursing home work a home address might be enough.Thank you all for the replies, my main question is, do i need to have a physical location to then begin the credentialing process for insurances? Seems odd to pay rent for months before seeing any patients.
I was going to reply and give my 2 cents but then OP conveniently avoided answering this important question.Are you a student, a resident, an associate, a hospital doctor etc. Why do you want to open a practice?
Your business/ billing address can be your home. Some things will only ship to a biz address. You can credential as long as you have the required stuff. I'd strongly suggest you hire a cred company or biller who does that. Some do it themselves; it is tedious and also highly important.Thank you all for the replies, my main question is, do i need to have a physical location to then begin the credentialing process for insurances? Seems odd to pay rent for months before seeing any patients.
Keep on trucking. You made a call for long term success. I literally would drive home my first few months and wonder what I'm doing wrong. Now I'm seeing 30 per day a few years in. Pounding on doors works and you'll be shocked how patients that have a great experience will tell others. Get out to urgent centers staffed by np/pa and give your direct number so when emergent treatments are needed they can come right over to your office. They won't be sending you nail fungus.I just opened my office a few months ago. It has been trying. Mostly, because I came from a high volume surgical practice where I had developed a reputation in the area and was operating very frequently - to now - maybe once a month. It is frustrating after this many years of schooling and experience to have to explain and re-explain what it is that we do - another reason for sour grapes. Not everything in life comes down to money.
The best analogy I can give to starting a practice cold is if you have ever worked in sales.
You have to get used to rejection and little victories. You almost have to learn to like the rejections, make a mental game out of it. Little victories are the referrals you get in the beginning of your practice. Sympathy referrals. You have to continue to go out there and knock on doors and do bootstrap marketing; and all the while be extremely happy and grateful for that doctor who sent you a nail fungus patient. That's what they think you do, so now treat it. And maximize your profits while causing no harm.
I am 3 months in, and I am no where near breaking even or making a profit. All in all, I invested approx. 45 K of my own capital to get things off the ground. I have one employee. I started off seeing 1 or 2 patients a week at the end of January. I am currently seeing 15-20 a week. A single surgery for the month.
There are many ways to do it and depends on how hungry you are. You can take hospital call and build a rep there, but that comes with its own headaches which has already been commented on. You can take out a private loan from a lender since banks won't give you one (you are a risk investment given your loan burden). You can have a spouse that works. You can start a practice after you have saved a little and have experience. You can do nursing homes and do part time. It's been done a million times before you; so understand that while it is indeed daunting - it's nothing that hasn't been done before. You are not in uncharted waters. Just remember, other podiatrists have done it. A million unethical ways to make money in this God awful profession.
Have you ever had issues with these centers referring to ortho FA instead?Get out to urgent centers staffed by np/pa and give your direct number so when emergent treatments are needed they can come right over to your office. They won't be sending you nail fungus.
Actually if you register as a mobile podiatrist, you do not need a physical location. You can start credentialing as "mobile" and then transition to "stationary". I recently asked that question to a credentialing lady and she actually recommended that. You can also find a lease that starts 5+ plus months from now. And you can start applying under that location, or find some very cheap location (half a day once a week) and then after credentialing is done, transfer to a more permanent place.Thank you all for the replies, my main question is, do i need to have a physical location to then begin the credentialing process for insurances? Seems odd to pay rent for months before seeing any patients.
Yes, you do. your DME MAC will do an in person check of your dispensing location in fact.
You could start with a simple office space rental agreement and use that as a "first location" but then you need to have medicare come out to different locations
Did chatGTP 4 write this?Starting a new practice can be an exciting and rewarding endeavor, but it also requires careful planning and execution to ensure success. Here are some general steps that you can follow to start a new practice:
Starting a new practice can be challenging, but with careful planning, hard work, and dedication, you can build a successful and fulfilling career as a practitioner.
- Identify your niche: Determine what type of practice you want to start and what services you will offer. Consider your experience, skills, and interests, as well as the needs of your target market.
- Conduct market research: Research the market demand for your services, as well as the competition in your area. This will help you identify potential clients, pricing strategies, and marketing opportunities.
- Create a business plan: Develop a comprehensive business plan that outlines your practice goals, strategies, financial projections, and timelines. This will help you stay focused and organized throughout the startup process.
- Secure funding: Determine your financial needs and secure funding sources, such as loans, grants, or investors.
- Register your practice: Register your practice with the appropriate state and local authorities, obtain any necessary licenses and certifications, and set up your business structure, such as a sole proprietorship or LLC.
- Set up your practice: Acquire any necessary equipment and supplies, set up your office or workspace, and establish your practice policies and procedures.
- Build your team: Hire any necessary staff, such as administrative assistants, clinical assistants, or other practitioners, and provide them with proper training and support.
- Launch and market your practice: Launch your practice and start marketing your services to your target audience through various channels, such as social media, advertising, and referrals.
Just the sort of clever retort we would expect from an AIwhy do you think so?
Because that was the most generic sounding reply ever. The only mention of this being medically related is the use of the term practitioner. This could have been written for a podiatrist, a neurosurgeon or even someone wanting to open a dildo removal service.why do you think so?
dildo removal service
Yeah I got nothing when googling Richard Dyson DPM.even his avatar looks AI generated
Any more details on this? Sounds too good to be true.In California, you can get an income guarantee from a hospital and they will partially (mostly) fund your start up and ongoing practice costs (for a 1-2 year period).
In California, you can get an income guarantee from a hospital and they will partially (mostly) fund your start up and ongoing practice costs (for a 1-2 year period).
It's not just in CA, and it's "true", but good luck making it happen on favorable terms. Don't get me wrong it still occurs, but it's a very different landscape now with direct hiring. The idea is you're providing a needed service to an underserved area, and the hospital profits with your consult/inpatient/OR business. You can forget about it in populated areas. A colleague of mine almost signed a contract, but they required free 24/7 call and buy his practice in 5 years. It's rare even in the MD/DO world, I have one neurology buddy that had hospital support in, you guessed it, a rural town (which has since been flooded with the storms).Any more details on this? Sounds too good to be true.
My personal experience is that I received an income guarantee in 2009, I paid nothing back to the hospital. It was paid by time (2 years) practicing in the hospital’s primary service area. I’ve also recruited 4 doctors on a hospital income guarantee (2011-2016). 1 paid back some money because they moved out of the area before their repayment period (time) was over.
Additionally, while with APCA, I helped several hospitals in California recruit podiatrists with income guarantees for limb salvage centers.
A loan that is forgivable if you stay a certain amount of time in the area. In most ways it is not as good as being employed and the assistance you get from the hospital might be taxed as income. If you leave for any reason prior to putting in your time they will go after you for their money.Income guarantees are an easy way to screw doctors. It’s just a loan. Completely different from a guaranteed base salary.
Income guarantees are an easy way to screw doctors. It’s just a loan. Completely different from a guaranteed base salary.
I’m not sure if it’s in the area I’m in or not, but honestly hospitals do not care to hire more than maybe 1-2 pods. Those 1-2 pods will stay there until they either retire or die. Podiatry isn’t really a profession that thrives in employed hospital settings. It certainly exists in some models, and perhaps it’s more lucrative in places like California. Some of the bigger names we see on here are the guys that started years ago, generated and introduced a certain niche for the hospital and eventually developed the entire department.
But folks, please don’t think that once you’re done with residency, the hospitals are waiting for you. They are not. With 400-500 new grads per year for maybe what, 30-50 hospital positions that sporadically open over time, per year? Mathematically this is not in your favor. Possible, certainly.
Additionally with the new trend of NP’s now being hired to do nail care at hospitals, all that really shows admin is that “hey we don’t need that many pods to do this work.” We’re doing it to ourselves and it’s dangerous to the profession.
Place I’m talking to has this as well. Two surgical podiatrists and two nurse practitioners. Keeps the clinic flowing very effectively.Hospitals hiring NPs to clip toenails? Are you kidding me? 99.9% of NPs will refuse to do that crap. On the other hand, we are hiring an NP so that I can spend more time in the OR while they handle the clinic and post ops. More cost effective than hiring another pod.
So yes, even less hospital employed positions will be available to pods in the future. Everything else you said we’ve all been parroting for a while now, hopefully folks looking into this saturated and redundant profession will pick up on this.
Income guarantees are an easy way to screw doctors. It’s just a loan. Completely different from a guaranteed base salary.
A loan that is forgivable if you stay a certain amount of time in the area. In most ways it is not as good as being employed and the assistance you get from the hospital might be taxed as income. If you leave for any reason prior to putting in your time they will go after you for their money.
This. My last job tried to recruit an additional hip/knee ortho and it was partnered with our local hospital for an “income guarantee” for 1-2 years. No bite for a while because if this doc leaves he will be on the hook for paying back the money because it is a “loan”. Granted ortho has a plethora of job opportunities they can easily turn this down. Not the same for pods.
NPs are being hired to do a lot more than nail care. They are seeing non op tx as primary provider. And doing a good job. Nail care doesn't need to be done on 90% of people having it done, and in a hospital setting it makes ZERO sense even for those that it is justifiably billed.I’m not sure if it’s in the area I’m in or not, but honestly hospitals do not care to hire more than maybe 1-2 pods. Those 1-2 pods will stay there until they either retire or die. Podiatry isn’t really a profession that thrives in employed hospital settings. It certainly exists in some models, and perhaps it’s more lucrative in places like California. Some of the bigger names we see on here are the guys that started years ago, generated and introduced a certain niche for the hospital and eventually developed the entire department.
But folks, please don’t think that once you’re done with residency, the hospitals are waiting for you. They are not. With 400-500 new grads per year for maybe what, 30-50 hospital positions that sporadically open over time, per year? Mathematically this is not in your favor. Possible, certainly.
Additionally with the new trend of NP’s now being hired to do nail care at hospitals, all that really shows admin is that “hey we don’t need that many pods to do this work.” We’re doing it to ourselves and it’s dangerous to the profession.
If you leave a regular job before 1-2 years there will be consequences too. Depends on your contract, you usually pay back recruitment bonuses and have an exclusion zone in a non-competition clause.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS … have an attorney with expertise in Physician’s agreements review ANY agreement you intend on signing. The $1,500-$2,500 you pay for that is a hard hit, but it will save you hundreds of thousands of dollars and headaches.
Additionally, it was pretty public (google it) that I sued my hospital (after I separated and long after my income guarantee was repaid) for disparagement … and received an undisclosed, confidential settlement.
I was only able to do this because my attorney made the non-disparagement clause bilateral (the original agreement said I couldn’t disparage the hospital, but didn’t prevent them from disparaging me).
Because of that, the disparagement - which is hard to fight in court - was a “breach of contract” and was simple to prove.
Why? because i rather make my own money than be exploited by some other podiatrist as an associate.I was going to reply and give my 2 cents but then OP conveniently avoided answering this important question.
I would agree there.^If you have to ask, you might not be ready unless you're willing to take over an existing practice
I would agree there.^
The best way to learn how to run a practice is to be an associate at a (well-run) private practice. Pick a supergroup or a small group or whatever you want. Most are fairly similar in principle... you will eventually want to copy some parts and trash other parts of any group's methods.
Reading helps a lot, but it can only go so far. I can talk about and read about deep sea fishing all day, you know? A day actually doing it is eventually necessary.
Florida is ok in some parts, but it's generally very saturated and poor payers. Anything can work, but some areas require more marketing and/or more shady tactics for PP to be viable.
Can you tell me what a Schneidoplasty procedure is?why do you think so?
Yes it is tough even with an established practice of less than 3 year to get a loan. I did not say impossible. There might a few banks that would take the risk. I am not sure what banks are worth a try, maybe ask on IPED.Is it tough to get a loan for a practice after 1 year of associate position or does one typically need at least 2 or more?