State residencies??

[SamuelTesla]

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I am applying to michigan and vermont, both of which offer in-state tuition if I declare residency to the specific states. I haven't heard anything from them about my application, but when does one usually send the residency application forms to the university? Do I wait after I have been accepted, and if so, when exactly do I apply for it?

 

[gravitywave]

for vermont you need to send in the residency form ASAP. i'm pretty sure you'll be pooled according to residency classification pre-interview. they interview about 2/3rds of the IS people and 1/9th of the OOS, and i believe they'll assume you're OOS until you get your residency established.

i have no idea what the michigan regs are, but you should know that vermont requires you to have domicile here. you can't have more than one domicile, so it's going to be tricky to get declared IS for more than one state....

 

[DoctaFuture]

I don't think you can have residency for two states...

 

[SamuelTesla]

for vermont you need to send in the residency form ASAP. i'm pretty sure you'll be pooled according to residency classification pre-interview. they interview about 2/3rds of the IS people and 1/9th of the OOS, and i believe they'll assume you're OOS until you get your residency established.

i have no idea what the michigan regs are, but you should know that vermont requires you to have domicile here. you can't have more than one domicile, so it's going to be tricky to get declared IS for more than one state....

I'm actually applying to New York public schools too. If I can only declare one residency, I am guessing I have no choice but to wait after the decisions are made about my application?

 

[mvenus929]

I'm actually applying to New York public schools too. If I can only declare one residency, I am guessing I have no choice but to wait after the decisions are made about my application?

You have to declare a residency status on your AMCAS. The individual schools then decide whether or not you qualify for residency there.

 

[SamuelTesla]

You have to declarto e a residency status on your AMCAS. The individual schools then decide whether or not you qualify for residency there.

yes - that would be my current residency on my AMCAS application - but Im talking about changing residency to get instate tuition teh first year of med school...

 

[DoctorJedi]

Getting residency for in-state tuition generally requires that you have lived there for a year before starting, and this doesn't include time in college, though I might be wrong about that.

Upshot is that you're probably only going to qualify as "in-state" in one state, it's not supposed to be something you can change, otherwise who would pay more to attend as "out-of-state" ?

 

[gravitywave]

ah, i understand the OP's question a bit better now:

as was stated, typically you have to reside in a state for one year to establish domicile for residency purposes. even then, there are lots of states that will refuse to reclassify you once you've started school. If you start out OOS here, it's virtually certain that you will remain OOS and pay that tuition rate for your four years here.

but bear in mind also, you need to clarify your intended residency status for the application cycle pretty soon to the schools in your current state. most state schools have very different criteria for evaluating IS vs OOS for admissions purposes (CA and WA come to mind), and the process can sometimes take a while if your situation isn't clearcut.

 

[gravitywave]

You have to declare a residency status on your AMCAS. The individual schools then decide whether or not you qualify for residency there.

....and there's usually another form to fill out, regardless of what's on your AMCAS. the people in the registrar's office that are responsible for residency classifications don't see your AMCAS.

 

[gravitywave]

Getting residency for in-state tuition generally requires that you have lived there for a year before starting, and this doesn't include time in college, though I might be wrong about that.

Upshot is that you're probably only going to qualify as "in-state" in one state, it's not supposed to be something you can change, otherwise who would pay more to attend as "out-of-state" ?

there are schools where it's possible i.e. virtually everyone petitions to have their status changed at the end of the first year and then everyone is paying the instate rate. i'm pretty sure CU works like that (at least they did last year), maybe Ohio State too?

here the regs explicitly state that if you came here to attend school, you're not going to be reclassified. most other places have something similar.

 

[Barcu]

there are schools where it's possible i.e. virtually everyone petitions to have their status changed at the end of the first year and then everyone is paying the instate rate. i'm pretty sure CU works like that (at least they did last year), maybe Ohio State too?

here the regs explicitly state that if you came here to attend school, you're not going to be reclassified. most other places have something similar.

I am certain in depends state-by-state, but most seem to require that you live in the state for a year and education does not count.

While in medical school seems to be a different issue. In regards to CU, it was debated on the CU-specific thread and it looked like the conclusion was that if you start OOS, you will have to be considered OOS for all four years. I'm guessing most schools work like that because having that OOS tuition is nice.

In regards to the OP, I would just assume you cannot get IS tuition when you decide schools. Some may let you, others may not. You can look into it more carefully when you are looking at acceptances. However, it makes sense for schools not to let you, if you would be willing to go for OOS tuition.

 

[cyanide]

yes - that would be my current residency on my AMCAS application - but Im talking about changing residency to get instate tuition teh first year of med school...

Some states may be more generous about this, but Michigan in particular is very strict and won't let you get in-state tuition after your first year in med school.

http://ro.umich.edu/resreg.php

They specifically mention that those who are residing in the state solely for school / university / residency / fellowship are not eligible.

As far as admissions goes, for schools that favor in-state applicants, it's most likely that you're going to have to declare a residency status BEFORE they review your file.

 

[TarHeelEMT]

yes - that would be my current residency on my AMCAS application - but Im talking about changing residency to get instate tuition teh first year of med school...

Yeah... it doesn't usually work like that. You probably have to meet some more stringent criteria than just claiming residency.