State residency Question

[pirlanta]

---

Members don't see this ad.

I have lived in state X for almost my whole life until I graduated from U of X and moved into state Y to work here for 2 years. When I apply to med school this summer, it would be my 9 month mark living and working in state Y. Would I be state X's or state Y's resident?

Also, if I get accepted to U of X would I pay in-state or out-of-state, since if I start med school there I would have been living and working in state Y for 2 years?

(if it makes a difference my parents are still in X and I prefer to be state X's resident)

Thanks!

 

[KLycos]

I am in the same situation. I'm a CA native but I moved to PA to do research for 2 years. I applied as a CA resident, have CA voting records, bank accounts, drivers license, primary residence is in CA, high school and undergraduate in CA, and these are the things that are usually looked at when considering your residency status for TUITION purposes. There is no set formula, and a dean or someone at the med school is usually in charge of designating your status, so when you do get accepted you will need to convince them of your status. Hope this helps.

 

[LifeTake2]

I have lived in state X for almost my whole life until I graduated from U of X and moved into state Y to work here for 2 years. When I apply to med school this summer, it would be my 9 month mark living and working in state Y. Would I be state X's or state Y's resident?

Also, if I get accepted to U of X would I pay in-state or out-of-state, since if I start med school there I would have been living and working in state Y for 2 years?

(if it makes a difference my parents are still in X and I prefer to be state X's resident)

Thanks!

If you are living & working in state Y, you are paying taxes in state Y.

With very few exceptions this makes you a resident there; and you will only get IS preference & tuition in Y.

If you really want to go in X, you can contact one of the state schools and ask but don't get your hopes up.

Sorry 🙁

 

[Sephiroth]

Are you filing taxes as an independent? If so (meaning your work pays for >50% of your financial sustenance) then you would be a resident in state Y. If you are still a dependent (meaning your parents pay for over half of your living expenses) then you would still be a resident of state X.

 

[LifeTake2]

I am in the same situation. I'm a CA native but I moved to PA to do research for 2 years. I applied as a CA resident, have CA voting records, bank accounts, drivers license, primary residence is in CA, high school and undergraduate in CA, and these are the things that are usually looked at when considering your residency status for TUITION purposes. There is no set formula, and a dean or someone at the med school is usually in charge of designating your status, so when you do get accepted you will need to convince them of your status. Hope this helps.

Per the UC school system you do NOT get in-state residency with what you list, and yes there are VERY clear rules in every state I've ever seen.

http://registrar.sa.ucsb.edu/residenc.htm

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]A student must be able to verify that he/she established a physical presence in California more than one year (366 days) immediately prior to the residence determination date of the term for which classification as a resident is requested and that he/she was physically present during that year. Residence may not be established in absentia.[/SIZE].

 

[KLycos]

Per the UC school system you do NOT get in-state residency with what you list, and yes there are VERY clear rules in every state I've ever seen.

http://registrar.sa.ucsb.edu/residenc.htm

not true. from your source: "[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]a student who leaves California after establishing presence has the burden of proving that he/she intended to remain a California resident and that his/her principal place of residence has been in California." The burden, of course, being in the factors that I listed above.
[/SIZE].

 

[LifeTake2]

not true.

Read the link....you must have PHYSICAL presence in the state for 365 days before matriculation. Sorry I took the time to google when you didn't.

 

[KLycos]

Read the link....you must have PHYSICAL presence in the state for 365 days before matriculation. Sorry I took the time to google when you didn't.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]"Continuous physical presence is not mandatory[/SIZE]." You didn't read everything ~.~

 

[LifeTake2]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]"Continuous physical presence is not mandatory[/SIZE]." You didn't read everything ~.~

Fine, IF you think you can prove that you maintained CA as your PRINCIPLE place of residence while living and working in another state for 2 years I wish you the best.

Did you file a CA income tax return for the last 2 years? Or did you file as PA resident? You can't be a resident of 2 states at the same time.....

Regardless, I'm done posting I was trying to warn you that you have a flaw in your plan...not hijack the thread.


To clarify my basis: I'm currently working in NY but I am a long-term GA resident. My spouse & children are still in the home I have in GA, and I pay taxes in GA as a resident, and file in NY as a non-resident. Yes that means 2 state returns. Nobody has my apartment I live in during the week address, not even my employer.

 

[IlDestriero]

If you are living & working in state Y, you are paying taxes in state Y.

With very few exceptions this makes you a resident there; and you will only get IS preference & tuition in Y.

If you really want to go in X, you can contact one of the state schools and ask but don't get your hopes up.

Sorry 🙁

While there may be exceptions, this is correct, and it's actually worse than you think.
You will probably not meet the in state applicant threshold for only 9 months time in state Y when you apply. So for your application, you likely have no home state. If you get into Y's school, you probably will be qualified to apply for in state tuition rates at that time. Many find themselves in your challenging position when they take a gap year and move to work in another state. You will not be considered a resident of state x any longer, and would almost certainly not qualify for in state tuition.
If you were in the military, which it doesn't sound like, it would probably be a different story.
Sorry.

 

[varsityblue]

You'd still be a state X resident.

 

[LifeTake2]

You'd still be a state X resident.

👎 Not accurate and provide w/o any backup or reasoning 👎

 

[KLycos]

👎 Not accurate and provide w/o any backup or reasoning 👎

Actually it is accurate, for the reasons and backup reasoning that I provided. I even countered your faulty arguments using the sources you provided.

http://reg.ucsc.edu/students/ten-things-graduate-students.pdf
http://students.ucsd.edu/finances/fees/residence/about.html
http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/
http://bulletins.psu.edu/bulletins/bluebook/general_information.cfm?section=Tuition2
https://students.asu.edu/residency

There are many ways that situations like this are dealt with on a case-by-case basis. So you will need foresight and are going to have to plan on maintaining ties to your home state like I did. Banking, Drivers license, voting record, primary residence, FAFSA filing, previous employment in your home state, having filed taxes in your home state etc, where you go home on vacations~

 

[CopaceticOne]

Again, it all depends on what the actual 'X' and 'Y' states are for OP. Some states are very, very, very strict while others are quite lenient.

OP, a quick google search for instate tuition rules for each of these states will be able to answer your specific question. Be aware that there may be some not well known exceptions that are actually in the legislative code so don't be afraid to glance at that as well if you are still unsure (this nugget was highlighted to me by PostHaste wrt a rule in Wisconsin).

 

[KLycos]

Again, it all depends on what the actual 'X' and 'Y' states are for OP. Some states are very, very, very strict while others are quite lenient.

OP, a quick google search for instate tuition rules for each of these states will be able to answer your specific question. Be aware that there may be some not well known exceptions that are actually in the legislative code so don't be afraid to glance at that as well if you are still unsure (this nugget was highlighted to me by PostHaste wrt a rule in Wisconsin).

Also, if you really care about a particular state just call their school and talk to someone on the phone about it. There are so many factors to take into consideration you probably won't get a final decision until you are accepted (if that happens). To be considered for acceptance you only need to choose that state on AMCAS. Worry about tuition later IMO.