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Hey guys,
Got a question about the Irish (ABP) schools in regards to the application timeline and acceptances.
Several years ago I applied to the 3 Title-IV-funded 4-year schools (UCD, RCSI, and Cork); got my apps in around March, I think, which I was told was late-but-still-OK. My GPA was near their average and my MCAT was much higher than average, plus I have plenty on my rez... I kinda thought I was a shoe-in and was totally horrified when I received my three flat-out rejections in, like, June.
I've now decided to apply again; through a casual conversation with one of the admissions counselors (who're all especially nice, BTW, aren't they?), it came up that I'd applied super late last time and that, even though they, ummm, happily took my application fees, I suppose, my apps were basically throw-aways... I'm majorly misquoting, of course, but that was the gist of what I was able to infer. They agreed to use my now-expired MCAT as a "stand-in" (for the RSCI interviews, in particular), especially considering it was a high score and I subsequently taught/tutored MCAT till the 528-change-over.
Because the new 528 version is now only given a few times a year, however, I was only able to get an April test-date, which they assured me would be fine; I'm worried, however, that I'm looking at a repeat of my previous experience, as my scores won't even be released till late-April/early-May.
So my question's two-fold...
1) Has anyone had a POSITIVE experience with late admissions to the ABP schools (particularly in regards to late MCATs)?
2) Is there a reason - i.e., a reason that negatively impacts American applicants - that nearly all ABP students are Canadian? Do these Irish schools have affiliations, for instance, with pre-med programs at various Canadian schools, and thus one's chances of acceptance as an American grad are much lower (i.e., like how it's way easier to get into an Ivy coming from a fancy prep-school than your plain-old zone high school)?
Thanks so much in advance. I'm still applying (already have!) and am still gonna sit for the April exam, but I just wanted some feedback on the process... In order, I suppose, to guage whether my hopes are moot.
Troll Disclaimer: Please don't reply if you plan to mention any of the following...
- I shouldn't be a doctor if I can't get into a US school.
- I should apply to DO instead... I have, was accepted to several, and chose to apply to foreign-MD instead, mostly 'cause I'm about to finalize my EU-nation citizenship and I'm planning to move to Europe indefinitely (where the DO degree does not confer physician status).
- I should apply to the Caribbean. I hate the heat and am turned off to for-profit schools with disturbingly high attrition rates. And, as I said, I'm planning a future in Europe.
- Ummmm I dunno, anything else meant to intimidate or discourage me and other thread-followers that's not based in reality? Anything troll-like?
~ THANKS AGAIN!!! ~ .
Hi, I am a British citizen who plans to work in Europe long term but I am going to DO school. You can become a consultant in 7 years in the USA rather than in the 12+ years it takes to do the same thing in the UK or Ireland. The General Medical Council accepts most if not all DO schools as suitable primary medical qualifications and US residencies are also recognized. Ireland does not recognize a DO degree so I understand your dilemma if you want to work in Ireland (if so, research the junior doctor crisis there. Irish are emigrating to Australia en masse.)
As for the reason there are more Canadians in Ireland (and Australia for that matter), it is because it is far more competitive in Canada due to less seats which is then compounded by not having DO as a fallback option. Then add in the fact it is widely considered that going IMG is limiting (even for EU citizens) as it prevents you from working in the country that has the most jobs and highest salaries. And that explains relatively lower numbers of American students.
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