Stock market opinions?

[epidural man]

Initial jobless claims, week ended Jan. 9: 965,000 vs. 789,000 expected

Does anyone have any concerns about this? Does anyone think the younger end of the millennial generation is helping to boost the market? Is anyone concerned that this demographic has never really experienced a market crash?

Are we living in times eerily reminiscent of the dotcom bubble?

If there is a recession, how much lower can interest rates go to help prop up the economy? Same with housing.

I say it will be a different market by the end of the summer.

YES!

Very concerning. The economy is not doing well at all - despite the market saying otherwise.

I think you are very smart to have a large amount of cash on the side. Actually, one of my paid subscriptions (The Motely Fool) suggest having some cash. I just think you should do a lot of it right now.

Watch this - it hits the nail on the head.



I sometimes follow these gauges as well. This website is pretty cool. I think the timing model works pretty well.

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[Pain Applicant1]

YES!

Very concerning. The economy is not doing well at all - despite the market saying otherwise.

I think you are very smart to have a large amount of cash on the side. Actually, one of my paid subscriptions (The Motely Fool) suggest having some cash. I just think you should do a lot of it right now.

Watch this - it hits the nail on the head.



I sometimes follow these gauges as well. This website is pretty cool. I think the timing model works pretty well.

Stock Market Indicators | Stock Trading Investment Strategies

Best performing stock market investment strategies, based on years of economic data. Check our stock market indicators, timing model, signals, alerts.

www.crystalbull.com

Lol! If millennials are helping to prop this market I'm curious what will happen with the next bear. It's a completely different emotional feeling when you lose money in the market. I personally think they'll get spooked and they won't be able to stomach it, creating a selling frenzy. We already have one suicide.

20-Year-Old Robinhood Customer Dies By Suicide After Seeing A $730,000 Negative Balance

Amid the wave of newcomers to what has become a casino stock market, a novice options trader takes his own life.

www.forbes.com

 

[Nodolor]

Funny ... you never see people post about those stocks or investments they lost their A'' on

 

[Baron Samedi]

20 year olds aren't millennials. Millennials are aged 25-40 and came out of college in the worst bear market in decades.

 

[Pain Applicant1]

20 year olds aren't millennials. Millennials are aged 25-40 and came out of college in the worst bear market in decades.

You're right, I'm just referring to the younger generation. Part of the generation came out of college in the worse bear market, yes, but this doesn't mean they were invested in the market yet. That's especially with the terrible economy they came into once graduated.

 

[Doctodd]

YES!

Very concerning. The economy is not doing well at all - despite the market saying otherwise.

I think you are very smart to have a large amount of cash on the side. Actually, one of my paid subscriptions (The Motely Fool) suggest having some cash. I just think you should do a lot of it right now.

Watch this - it hits the nail on the head.



I sometimes follow these gauges as well. This website is pretty cool. I think the timing model works pretty well.

Stock Market Indicators | Stock Trading Investment Strategies

Best performing stock market investment strategies, based on years of economic data. Check our stock market indicators, timing model, signals, alerts.

www.crystalbull.com

i dont know when or if as im not an economist, but if the govt is going to print more money and pass another stimulus, i dont think the market will be crashing just yet.....IMHO. Biden should be singing kumbaya with all his old pals in Europe and Asia, so if we go down it is because everyone went down. Ford increased China revenue a crapload last quarter....and China is on a tear now.

 

[Doctodd]

Janet Yellen just said go big or go home with stimulus.

 

[Laryngospasm]

At this point for me what’s invested will stay there.. but I will keep the cash waiting for a while. I Have a sure fire strategy for you guys.. just do the opposite of what I do.. you will win for sure 😂

 

[hyperalgesia]

I don't think moving money in and out of the market based on macro factors is a reliable way to make money. You will get taxed to hell and back, even if you are lucky enough to outsmart the other gamblers.

The sustainable market declines I've seen have all occurred when there are better, safer, more lucrative investments than companies. This happens when the federal reserve raises rates in response to anticipated inflation.

Even if you have a decrease in corporate earnings across the board, if your other options are bitcoin or gold or a govt bond that pays 0.5%/year, investors will still choose the low corporate earnings.

When there's an indication of inflation or economic growth, that might trigger the federal reserve to raise rates, that's when the equation changes for me.

 

[DOctorJay]

remember jds uniphase, excite, cdnow

I had JDSU, it tanked and is now Lumentum (LITE) which is actually doing ok

 

[powermd]

Funny ... you never see people post about those stocks or investments they lost their A'' on

I lost about 17K trading TSLA in September/October. Oopsie. If you look at the chart, you can see I was attempting to trade a big breakout to $500+. Didn't work out. I dug out of that hole, but have become much more conservative about discretionary options trading. I'm doing super well with credit spreads now anyway.

 

[lobelsteve]

Lost 1000 on Freds. Hit 1600 then went bankrupt. Lesson learned. It’s gambling.

 

[Pain Applicant1]

i dont know when or if as im not an economist, but if the govt is going to print more money and pass another stimulus, i dont think the market will be crashing just yet.....IMHO. Biden should be singing kumbaya with all his old pals in Europe and Asia, so if we go down it is because everyone went down. Ford increased China revenue a crapload last quarter....and China is on a tear now.

Where will the stimulus money come from? Will taxes be raised? If so, will this slow down business and limit hiring? Are businesses already hurting? Have many have gone under? Will the minimum wage be increased? Will this limit new businesses from opening up? Will it limit hiring? What about inflation?

I'm not sure you can throw money at businesses and have them reappear overnight. It takes time to get established and gain a customer base in the community.

Giving a stimulus of $2000 to a family does not go very far and I don't see the gov't repeating this every few months unless they plan on moving to a UBI program.

I may be wrong on this but I'm happy with my return since March and don't want to be greedy. I'm just about completely out of the market. Once out, I'm going to stay on the sidelines for some time.

 

[powermd]

Where will the stimulus money come from? Will taxes be raised? If so, will this slow down business and limit hiring? Are businesses already hurting? Have many have gone under? Will the minimum wage be increased? Will this limit new businesses from opening up? Will it limit hiring? What about inflation?

I'm not sure you can throw money at businesses and have them reappear overnight. It takes time to get established and gain a customer base in the community.

Giving a stimulus of $2000 to a family does not go very far and I don't see the gov't repeating this every few months unless they plan on moving to a UBI program.

I may be wrong on this but I'm happy with my return since March and don't want to be greedy. I'm just about completely out of the market. Once out, I'm going to stay on the sidelines for some time.

The market over time is is pricing the future, and I suspect what it's telling us is that there's a ton of underlying demand waiting to be unleashed once COVID recedes. I'm feeling optimistic for the first time in a while. I do think there will be corrections, probably over-reactions to world events and political moves, as well as the usual quarterly window dressing. People will say "the market just got ahead of its self". I wouldn't be surprised at all if we had a big correction in February or March. Corrections will be buying opportunities. I think Biden will be good for the market, regardless of the whining from people who don't want redistributionist policy to work. New revolutionary industries are waking up in space, AI, alternative energy, pharma. It's going to be an exciting time. Hopefully the political BS won't spoil it.

 

[clubdeac]

I got a good chunk of dough sitting in cash just waiting. I just with there was somewhere safe to put it that got a decent return

 

[BobBarker]

It is an odd deal. We have great increase in money supply with QE. Has to go somewhere so stocks go up and everyone gets a stimulus. Should cause huge inflation but interest rates are held down by the government preventing it. Dollar should be devalued as it is cheap and abundant. But that hasn’t proven out.

 

[powermd]

It is an odd deal. We have great increase in money supply with QE. Has to go somewhere so stocks go up and everyone gets a stimulus. Should cause huge inflation but interest rates are held down by the government preventing it. Dollar should be devalued as it is cheap and abundant. But that hasn’t proven out.

My understanding of the inflation issue is that it's likely a simple supply and demand balance. We have no real issues with supply for consumer goods, so it doesn't matter how many dollars are floating around out there, you won't see inflation until demand outstrips supply. There is one fairly obvious place we see inflation though!

 

[Nodolor]

Dow, S&P, Nasdaq close at records as Biden sworn in as 46th U.S. President

Stocks hit record highs Wednesday as President Joe Biden was sworn in on the steps of the U.S. Capitol.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Doctodd]

apparently the major cruise lines are going to allow betting.....announced yesterday

Carnival to Launch "Ocean Sportsbook" Sports Betting During Cruises

Looking to get a piece of the digital sports betting action that has been swiftly gaining in popularity over the past year or so, Carnival (NYSE: CCL) (NYSE: CUK) announced today it plans to launch a new Ocean Sportsbook aboard its Princess cruise line. The digital betting app is under...

finance.yahoo.com

Game On - Princess Cruises Launches Sports Betting at Sea; Lets Fans Wager on Favorite Events

For the first time ever, sports fans will have the opportunity to wager on sports from the comfort of their cruise ship. Princess Cruises today unveiled Ocean® Sportsbook, a new, real-time sports wagering option onboard its MedallionClass ships, giving guests the opportunity to bet on major...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[hyperalgesia]

apparently the major cruise lines are going to allow betting.....announced yesterday

Carnival to Launch "Ocean Sportsbook" Sports Betting During Cruises

Looking to get a piece of the digital sports betting action that has been swiftly gaining in popularity over the past year or so, Carnival (NYSE: CCL) (NYSE: CUK) announced today it plans to launch a new Ocean Sportsbook aboard its Princess cruise line. The digital betting app is under...

finance.yahoo.com

Game On - Princess Cruises Launches Sports Betting at Sea; Lets Fans Wager on Favorite Events

For the first time ever, sports fans will have the opportunity to wager on sports from the comfort of their cruise ship. Princess Cruises today unveiled Ocean® Sportsbook, a new, real-time sports wagering option onboard its MedallionClass ships, giving guests the opportunity to bet on major...

finance.yahoo.com

Wait, this is new?

 

[SSdoc33]

Wait, this is new?

sports betting is new

 

[Doctodd]

turns out not all the cruise lines are doing it, but i wouldnt be surprised if they copy the model. Ive only been on disney cruises and i can see them having an adult section for this....disney isnt really wholesome anymore

 

[painfree23]

Gme

 

[Nodolor]

turns out not all the cruise lines are doing it, but i wouldnt be surprised if they copy the model. Ive only been on disney cruises and i can see them having an adult section for this....disney isnt really wholesome anymore

They have had casino gambling for years

 

[Doctodd]

what a ride yesterday......today is up so far. Travel(air and cruise lines for me) stocks still popping.