Stoner Pre-med

[JohnsonTheSad]

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I study, get great grades, volunteer, and have a good work ethic. I also smoke down tons. I know the newer generations are apparently becoming more tolerant to stoners. So I'd like to ask what the Pre-meds think of it nowadays. Have you done it? What are your opinions on it? Do you think people should be allowed to toke? How do you feel about a stoner pursuing medicine?

 

[JustAPhD]

This is going to end well.


I honestly don't care; just don't be an idiot and fail a drug screen over it.

 

[Astra]

 

[Wolfpack93]

You seem to care a lot what others think haha. Just don't get a possession charge and no one will care/ know about it unless you brag about it on SDN...

 

[eteshoe]

OP you seem like you wanna do you so do it. I don't see how this thread will play much into your habits.

 

[JohnsonTheSad]

It's kind of like dipping my toes in the water. I haven't really been involved with too many premeds at my university, but when I do meet more of them, I'd rather have a gist of what they might think about my habit.

 

[Goro]

0/10 troll. In my day, trolling was trolling!

 

[JohnsonTheSad]

0/10 troll. In my day, trolling was trolling!

Seriously man, not even trolling. It's a habit that a lot of people are very against. I happen to partake in the habit and I'm genuinely curious as to how much that negative opinion exists in the field of study that I want to enter.

 

[Goro]

It's still a federal crime, and a crime in a bunch of states other than WA and CO, and as such, a dirty urine test will end up blackballing you.

Seriously man, not even trolling. It's a habit that a lot of people are very against. I happen to partake in the habit and I'm genuinely curious as to how much that negative opinion exists in the field of study that I want to enter.

 

[Pagan FutureDoc]

There's a time and place in your medical education when you need to realize it's time to grow up and stop doing things that will put your future career in jeapordy.

 

[exacto]

There's a time and place in your medical education when you need to realize it's time to grow up and stop doing things that will put your future career in jeapordy.

This...I can understand if you like it, but when you put on that white coat, that is a hugely powerful symbol. People will respect you, look up to you and value your opinion more so, it's actually very crazy. Until weed is legal, you should try to be the best you that you can be in the most legal manner possible. I know doctors are only humans, but doctors have a image they need to present. I dont smoke weed, but i hope it becomes federally legal soon.

 

[Toutie]

The reason your johnson is sad is because you're smoking too much weed. 😀

 

[piii]

Honestly, no one cares.

 

[JohnsonTheSad]

Well tbh that's enough replies. I'll keep everything in mind. Obviously I'm still young and I have a lot of decisions to make in the future. I was kind banking on legalization happening sooner rather than later. But tbf, I don't even know if I'll be smoking much then haha. The big thing is that I'd rather not just lie about it to become a doctor you know?

Idk if I can close the thread, but I do understand how it could go bad. I've got the answers I asked for. If anyone wants to close this to prevent it from going awry, do whatever.

 

[Toutie]

Well tbh that's enough replies. I'll keep everything in mind. Obviously I'm still young and I have a lot of decisions to make in the future. I was kind banking on legalization happening sooner rather than later. But tbf, I don't even know if I'll be smoking much then haha. The big thing is that I'd rather not just lie about it to become a doctor you know?

Idk if I can close the thread, but I do understand how it could go bad. I've got the answers I asked for. If anyone wants to close this to prevent it from going awry, do whatever.

Seriously, lay off the weed. Make your johnson happy again. 😵

 

[Dr Tony T. Chopper]

I study, get great grades, volunteer, and have a good work ethic. I also smoke down tons. I know the newer generations are apparently becoming more tolerant to stoners. So I'd like to ask what the Pre-meds think of it nowadays. Have you done it? What are your opinions on it? Do you think people should be allowed to toke? How do you feel about a stoner pursuing medicine?

There are thousands of applicants just like you who do well academically without smoking pot. I think its great as long as nobody knows what you do in your spare time.

 

[redferrari]

I was a huge stoner during undergrad. I also smoked about half a pack of cigarettes a day on the weekends if I didn't have volunteer or lab duties. Never did either habit interfere with my performances in class or professional life. However, when the time came to apply, I grew up and quit both habits, knowing it would benefit me in the long run.

To me personally, drugs aren't worth my career. I hope that when the time comes, you'll come to the same conclusion. As far as the debate on legalization, I hope the day comes soon that we see it legalized, but I still won't use it due to the fact that that white coat comes with a lot of responsibility.

 

[Espressso]

Is this forreal?

Forreal forreal?

 

[Espressso]

OP, yeah you can do whatever you want. You're allowed to do whatever you please, my friend. But there are consequences. Such as failing a simple urine drug test prior to matriculation or employment. Even students with their medical cards in states that have legal medical marijuana, they can't use that as a medical student.

As @redferrari mentions above, you will soon realize there is a time and place for everything, including smoking down tons.

 

[Turkishking]

No. Lol "stoner" that's stupid. I'm against stupid crap like that but you do you

 

[JohnsonTheSad]

I was a huge stoner during undergrad. I also smoked about half a pack of cigarettes a day on the weekends if I didn't have volunteer or lab duties. Never did either habit interfere with my performances in class or professional life. However, when the time came to apply, I grew up and quit both habits, knowing it would benefit me in the long run.

To me personally, drugs aren't worth my career. I hope that when the time comes, you'll come to the same conclusion. As far as the debate on legalization, I hope the day comes soon that we see it legalized, but I still won't use it due to the fact that that white coat comes with a lot of responsibility.

I saw people with the same experience as you many times in past threads. It seems like a really reasonable decision. You could be in a new state with no connects and should be focusing on learning medicine anyways. So I've never really quit. Is it true it's not addictive? Or was it pretty harsh? I've heard you can't sleep.

EDIT: Ah you had the tobacco too, that might skew it.

 

[Espressso]

I saw people with the same experience as you many times in past threads. It seems like a really reasonable decision. You could be in a new state with no connects and should be focusing on learning medicine anyways. So I've never really quit. Is it true it's not addictive? Or was it pretty harsh? I've heard you can't sleep.

EDIT: Ah you had the tobacco too, that might skew it.

Smoking marijuana, like any activity, can become mentally addictive and cause habit-forming tendencies.

 

[redferrari]

I saw people with the same experience as you many times in past threads. It seems like a really reasonable decision. You could be in a new state with no connects and should be focusing on learning medicine anyways. So I've never really quit. Is it true it's not addictive? Or was it pretty harsh? I've heard you can't sleep.

EDIT: Ah you had the tobacco too, that might skew it.

It was not hard to quit for me, simply because I would rather be a doctor than not one. It's all a matter of self-control and self-motivation. If you can't motivate yourself to quit smoking weed because you have a chance to pursue a career most can only dream of, I question your motivation in everything else.

 

[JohnsonTheSad]

It was not hard to quit for me, simply because I would rather be a doctor than not one. It's all a matter of self-control and self-motivation. If you can't motivate yourself to quit smoking weed because you have a chance to pursue a career most can only dream of, I question your motivation in everything else.

That's understandable. Thanks for being helpful man. I'll try to follow in your footsteps. I've never really thought I could get away with smoking outside of undergrad tbh. My question was more to judge appropriate behavior around any pre-med peers I may meet along the way.

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

I have a friend who smoked all throughout medical school. Every time he would come to town he'd be toking it up at parties or whenever I was with him. Had some cognitive dissonance about smoking weed and partying so much when he knew he was becoming a doctor but thats about it. Don't know if he was doing it while he was at school or not. Anyways he has good board scores and matched at a good program on the East coast.

 

[Quaero]

I have a friend who smoked all throughout medical school. Every time he would come to town he'd be toking it up at parties or whenever I was with him. Had some cognitive dissonance about smoking weed and partying so much when he knew he was becoming a doctor but thats about it. Don't know if he was doing it while he was at school or not. Anyways he has good board scores and matched at a good program on the east coast.

With all the drug tests he has to go through, I doubt this habit is sustainable while in residency.


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[ProspectiveKidd]

With all the drug tests he has to go through, I doubt this habit is sustainable while in residency.

I agree with what you're saying; I was surprised when he came to town before the match and was still doing it. He's smart enough to make it this far so id hope he's smart enough to quit when he needs to.

All my friends smoked weed growing up and I was pretty much around it every day. Probably why I have a much more lax attitude towards it than some other posters, but I think you'd be surprised how many doctors feel the same way. Obviously their viewpoints don't matter when it comes to the policies on these issues, but trust me they weren't all squeaky clean.

 

[redferrari]

That's understandable. Thanks for being helpful man. I'll try to follow in your footsteps. I've never really thought I could get away with smoking outside of undergrad tbh. My question was more to judge appropriate behavior around any pre-med peers I may meet along the way.

No problem. I just wanted to give you relevant perspective from someone who just went through the application process. As far as my peers, a lot of us smoked, a lot of us didn't. We all knew each other well enough to be understanding, but never did we waltz around professing whether we did or not. Sort of an unspoken DADT policy. Never would we be under the influence or using when the time came for professional behavior. You'll realize that professional behavior will be required a whole lot more in medical school than in undergrad, which will really make the habit inconvenient anyways.

 

[timetraveling]

You will soon realize that you're better off not asking for external validation on SDN just due to the type of people who frequent it, OP

 

[Avicenna]

Is this forreal?

Forreal forreal?

Were you going for Andre 3000?
"Forever.
Forever ever?
Forever ever??"

 

[cbrons]

There's a time and place in your medical education when you need to realize it's time to grow up and stop doing things that will put your future career in jeapordy.

OP is premed

 

[cbrons]

You will soon realize that you're better off not asking for external validation on SDN just due to the type of people who frequent it, OP

U got somethin wrong with SDN, boy?

 

[Taddy Mason]

Within 10 years it will be legal on the federal level. Just be smart about it and roll with the punches.

 

[redferrari]

Were you going for Andre 3000?
"Forever.
Forever ever?
Forever ever??"

Nice reference hahaha

 

[mistafab]

We have the same story, you and I.

I was a huge stoner during undergrad. I also smoked about half a pack of cigarettes a day on the weekends if I didn't have volunteer or lab duties. Never did either habit interfere with my performances in class or professional life. However, when the time came to apply, I grew up and quit both habits, knowing it would benefit me in the long run.

To me personally, drugs aren't worth my career. I hope that when the time comes, you'll come to the same conclusion. As far as the debate on legalization, I hope the day comes soon that we see it legalized, but I still won't use it due to the fact that that white coat comes with a lot of responsibility.

 

[themoonman2]

I work for a very well established academic physician who smokes (my guess) every day. The trick is to know when not to; i.e. when seeing patients or doing things that actually matter- it's the same with alcohol.. There are lots of physicians with substance abuse problems as shown by medscape. The big issue with weed is that it's a crime that can get you into lots of trouble and jeopardize your future. I used to smoke a lot but stopped once I started thinking of things in terms of risk and reward. The risk was much greater than the reward, so I stopped.

 

[mistafab]

At some point you will reach a moment when a thought crosses your mind like what themoonman is saying below. It just isn't worth it at some point. It isn't hard to stop once you start thinking long term. Hopefully, until then, you keep your nose clean and don't get into trouble. People have been busted for less, and you will feel very stupid if you hurt your chances to become a doctor over this.

I work for a very well established academic physician who smokes (my guess) every day. The trick is to know when not to; i.e. when seeing patients or doing things that actually matter- it's the same with alcohol.. There are lots of physicians with substance abuse problems as shown by medscape. The big issue with weed is that it's a crime that can get you into lots of trouble and jeopardize your future. I used to smoke a lot but stopped once I started thinking of things in terms of risk and reward. The risk was much greater than the reward, so I stopped.

Edit: it is just like the last few lines in The Untouchables with Elliot Ness. This guy had been spending YEARS during the prohibition fighting the alcohol underworld. He was asked by a reporter at the end of the movie "what will you do once the prohibition is over" to which Elliot responded "I guess I'll have a drink."

No one is saying that it is wrong to enjoy yourself, but because the law of the land (which may eventually change) says it is wrong, it isn't about if it is okay or not.

 

[yuio]

I knew a guy who smoked everyday in undergrad, and then crammed for the MCAT in 2 weeks and got a freakin 39... Sorry this thread just reminded me of that.