Stony Brook vs Columbia

Started by 1800RAW
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Columbia or Stony Brook

  • Columbia

    Votes: 25 49.0%
  • SB

    Votes: 26 51.0%

  • Total voters
    51

1800RAW

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I know there are a few threads on this topic, but I think my situation may differ enough to warrant another thread.

I finally heard back from Columbia today and now must quickly decide between that or SB. I've already made a pros/cons list comparing the two, but the one aspect that's making this decision the most difficult is I'm pretty sure I'd like to pursue orthodontics (how typical, right?). My father is a GP and has an orthodontist, who I've known most of my life, come into his office 2-3 times per week. As a result, I have a TON of shadowing experience in both general dentistry and orthodontics, perhaps to a greater degree than someone with the same amount of shadowing hours due to my relationship to both dentists. Now obviously shadowing dentistry and actually practicing dentistry are two completely different animals, but at this point in time shadowing and researching each field are really the only two things I can do to get a feel for which area I would like to pursue and so far, all signs point to ortho. To put it a different way, its something I could see myself doing for the next 40 years without getting bored with it.

On the other hand, as I said previously, practicing and shadowing are two completely different things and there's no telling whether or not I'll feel the same way towards general dentistry once I start seeing actual patients. Additionally, I may come to find I enjoy another, possibly less competitive specialty more than orthodontics.

So really what it comes down to is if the 100K+ price difference between columbia and stony brook is worth the possible edge Columbia will give me in specializing in ortho or perhaps some other field, as the numbers they gave us during the interview day were very impressive to me. If I was unsure if I wanted to specialize, or was set on becoming a general dentist, I would pick SB in the blink of an eye, as I feel their clinical program is superior to Columbia's. However, I feel I have more then enough shadowing experience in both fields as well as enough input from both types of dentists to make this a point seriously worth considering as possibly justifying spending an additional 100K at Columbia.

And again, I have weighed the pros and cons of each school and I realize there are other differences between them that would sway me one way or the other, but in my opinion this is the only factor that would put Columbia over SB.

So, what do you guys think?
 
I would pick Stony. While Columbia does put out a lot of specialists I don't know if they really have an edge over SB. You were able to get in both of these programs pretty easily, so if you work hard, you could probably get into ortho out of anywhere. I think the only advantage to Columbia has over SB is that is not smack in the middle of LI.

note: I have a conflict of interest as I'm on the Columbia waitlist , but his is my honest opinion. I'm not trying to steer you away. GL
 
Yeah the location is probably the biggest thing I dont like about Stony, actually makes me happy Ill be so busy if I go there cause otherwise I'd probably go insane.

I have heard from a few people that SB classes typically consist of individuals mainly looking to go into general dentistry, and that the specialization #s would be higher if more students simply chose to specialize. I dont know how much truth there is to that, but the same number of people matched into OMFS at SB last year compared to Columbia (4), while only 1 went into ortho vs 11 at Columbia. But still, the fact that 10% of the class went into OMFS at SB is definitely indicative of something, and I'm sure some of those students could have done ortho if they wanted to.

But yeah so far your response is pretty much what everyone else has been saying.

On a bit of an unrelated note, although you are a completely random stranger on the internet to me, I am genuinely mad that you got waitlisted at Columbia. My GPA is a bit better than yours but your DAT is a bit better than mine, and I know Columbia likes high DAT scores. I hope you get my spot if I turn them down.
 
Yeah the location is probably the biggest thing I dont like about Stony, actually makes me happy Ill be so busy if I go there cause otherwise I'd probably go insane.

I have heard from a few people that SB classes typically consist of individuals mainly looking to go into general dentistry, and that the specialization #s would be higher if more students simply chose to specialize. I dont know how much truth there is to that, but the same number of people matched into OMFS at SB last year compared to Columbia (4), while only 1 went into ortho vs 11 at Columbia. But still, the fact that 10% of the class went into OMFS at SB is definitely indicative of something, and I'm sure some of those students could have done ortho if they wanted to.

But yeah so far your response is pretty much what everyone else has been saying.

On a bit of an unrelated note, although you are a completely random stranger on the internet to me, I am genuinely mad that you got waitlisted at Columbia. My GPA is a bit better than yours but your DAT is a bit better than mine, and I know Columbia likes high DAT scores. I hope you get my spot if I turn them down.

Recheck your OMFS number for columbia.

I would've been in the same dilemma if I got into sbu too. Unfortunately after 4 years of being there with another 2 years away from the campus. I felt this huge surge of unexplainable emotions making me not want to go back once I arrived there. Probably affected my interview performance 🙁
 
Recheck your OMFS number for columbia.

I would've been in the same dilemma if I got into sbu too. Unfortunately after 4 years of being there with another 2 years away from the campus. I felt this huge surge of unexplainable emotions making me not want to go back once I arrived there. Probably affected my interview performance 🙁

yeah I dont blame you.
youre right about the #s, it was 13 for ortho and 5 for OMFS, but then again the class size is twice as big too. In previous years tho OMFS was in the double digits and ortho was alot lower, theyre inversely proportional it seems.

Go to whichever is cheaper. Both have great reputations.

agreed, and all of the dentists ive spoken too seem to say the same thing about going to the cheaper school. its just the specialization #s at columbia really blew me away, especially given my (educated) preference for ortho at this moment in time.

thanks for the responses so far
 
technically it was 6 for omfs last year, one of the guys post-matched into a spot.

oh, I was just going by the sheet they gave us at the interview. I think last year was the lowest specialization percentage if I remember correctly, the rate was crazy a few years ago.
 
oh, I was just going by the sheet they gave us at the interview. I think last year was the lowest specialization percentage if I remember correctly, the rate was crazy a few years ago.

Well its not like theres the same amount of people interested in OMFS every year... It seems like Ortho and Pedo are becoming more popular by the year.
 
Stony Brook vs. Columbia is like Toyota vs. Lexus. They both have the same engine, you just pay more for the "luxury feel" of a Lexus. So it all depends on what you want out of your experience, if you want luxury you know where to find it. I'd rather use that money to invest in a practice, buy a house or get married.

Hope this helps 🙂