And then what's the long game? Prove to the healthcare world that they don't care about their staff? Covid Heroes one minute and now take told to take a hike when they ask for things to help with patient safety?
Why? They aren’t working. They aren’t getting paid for the same reason.
Its always a curious situation. Nurses are striking but there aren't enough nurses to make up for the strike. So patients suffer due to a delay of care. Additionally, the strikers are making a ton of noise with cars honking and loudspeakers from morning until evening, which also is disruptive to patients sleep and health. Seems a bit hypocritical to be clamoring for safe ratios for patient care but then leaving the hospital and those very same patients understaffed.
Nothing hypocritical here... I don't think they owe the hospital or patients anything. At the end of the day it's a job, and medicine has turned into such a transactional process thanks to the useless bean counters. They're not providing mission work or charity care, they should get whatever they want because hey, at least they have the balls and unity to band together to fight for themselves against "The Man", and the man has plenty of cash that they refuse to spend to take care of their own people, but somehow have more than enough money to build, expand the hospital, and spend on travel\locums forever.
I'm not saying they cant/shouldnt do it. Its a capitalist economy in a freeish market economy. What I am saying is that its hypocritical to suggest that its done in the best interest of the patient rather than in the best interest of the nurses. Just be honest.
I actually demand $450 now. However, I dont accept a $250/hr locums job and then go on strike because they arent paying me $400/hr.Seems hypocritical for a physician to demand $400/hr locums pay when you could just do it for less. Think about all the extra care the hospital could provide if greedy physicians didn’t demand so much money.
Funny, but over here in Scandiland, even union nurses and doctors are effectively barred from striking, as the govt arbotrators very quickly see the dangers to patient care as soon as we don't show up to work, and then end the strike due to nefarious legaleeze.If the hospital or the public for that matter had to give a “provider” a dollar for everytime they used the word hero to describe them, I bet they’d stfu.
Also across the pond, the doctors and the nurses seem to both be willing to strike
NHS consultants in England to strike for further three days in October | NHS | The Guardian
BMA announces longest-ever strike action by senior doctors, as 48-hour stoppage begins on Thursdayamp.theguardian.com
Unite to hold protests at NHS London trusts during pay and staffing strikes
www.unitetheunion.org
What happens if a large portion of the docs and nurses call in sick?
I dont disagree with you. I do think the nurses are telling a half-truth. I just dont expect the public to be able to see through it as easily as they see through the billboards. My comment was more in comparison to your original comment about working for less than my already negotiated rate. If one party doesn't like the terms, they can leave and not sign the contract.
To my knowledge, neither do physicians... but i do see nursing discounts in a lot of places that specifically exclude doctors.
Average salary in NYC is 70k.
Some places also extend that to all employees (including professors who are nurse) and not just physicians. Whats your point?
450 is the new norm now? Mine is way lower than this.
They are idiots then. Sounds like they are trying to run them off instead of retaining them. Not all groups are like this.
If you are in a high volume room, then you have time to take plenty of breaks to use the bathroom. You dont need an hour for lunch. Takes 10 minutes to eat quickly. I demand $450, but usually its a negotiation and we land somewhere in the middle. $350-400 is already the norm in non-malignant locations (LA, NY, SF). Its easy to get that rate in OR, WA, and the midwest.
