Strong In-State Ties?

[cactusman]

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I'm only a freshman but I realized this question won't change in the next few years anyway.

I'm from NH and have a parent from a state with several med schools. My grandmother used to live there, my parent grew up and went to college there, and some of my cousins and an aunt and uncle still live there. I've only visited twice, and once was when I was only one or two years old. Does this count as "strong in-state ties" for admissions at their public medical schools?

Edit: I guess three visits, not that it makes much of a difference when it's still such a low number.

 

[efle]

I'm only a freshman but I realized this question won't change in the next few years anyway.

I'm from NH and have a parent from a state with several med schools. My grandmother used to live there, my parent grew up and went to college there, and some of my cousins and an aunt and uncle still live there. I've only visited twice, and once was when I was only one or two years old. Does this count as "strong in-state ties" for admissions at their public medical schools?

Is this like a nearby state in the same region? If it's somewhere else in the country and you personally have only had a couple visits, I would not expect much love from any schools with major instate missions.

 

[cactusman]

Is this like a nearby state in the same region? If it's somewhere else in the country and you personally have only had a couple visits, I would not expect much love from any schools with major instate missions.

Different region, about a 15 hour drive. A couple of their publics don't seem to have major instate missions, but I guess I might as well rule out the rest.

I have applied to transfer to a school in the same region. I doubt I'll get in, but on the off chance that I do, do you think 3 years of attendance there would make a difference?

I do like the state, would definitely consider living and practicing there.

 

[efle]

Different region, about a 15 hour drive. A couple of their publics don't seem to have major instate missions, but I guess I might as well rule out the rest.

I have applied to transfer to a school in the same region. I doubt I'll get in, but on the off chance that I do, do you think 3 years of attendance there would make a difference?

I do like the state, would definitely consider living and practicing there.

If the publics take OOS residents then they're worth applying to. If you did get in would you be able to change state residency during those 3 years?

This whole process is so unpredictable at the level of individual schools that you'd have to go in expecting nothing from a particular state no matter what

 

[cactusman]

If the publics take OOS residents then they're worth applying to. If you did get in would you be able to change state residency during those 3 years?

This whole process is so unpredictable at the level of individual schools that you'd have to go in expecting nothing from a particular state no matter what

Unfortunately, I don't think this state normally allows students to establish domicile/residency for tuition purposes during med school.

Sometimes I really wish my parents had chosen another state, but I believe 8.7% of NH residents who apply to Dartmouth Geisel matriculate, so I guess that's a good statistic?

 

[efle]

Considering their overall admit rate is only 4% that is an excellent statistic if it's true!

 

[JoaoMoutinho]

I have applied to transfer to a school in the same region. I doubt I'll get in, but on the off chance that I do, do you think 3 years of attendance there would make a difference?

Unfortunately, I don't think this state normally allows students to establish domicile/residency for tuition purposes during med school.

If you are accepted as a transfer student, then you can become a legal resident of the new state while you're in undergrad. I can't speak for undergrad tuition, but you will have been a legal resident of that state for 3 years by the time you are applying if you change your residency right away. You will then be eligible as in-state for said medical school. Then, profit.

 

[cactusman]

Considering their overall admit rate is only 4% that is an excellent statistic if it's true!

Checked Table A-1 again and it's actually 9.6% of IS applicants who matriculated last year - yay! I think they try to save between 5 and 10 spots for NH residents, but NH is small and a relatively small portion of our students apply for med school, so that helps a lot.

If you are accepted as a transfer student, then you can become a legal resident of the new state while you're in undergrad. I can't speak for undergrad tuition, but you will have been a legal resident of that state for 3 years by the time you are applying if you change your residency right away. You will then be eligible as in-state for said medical school. Then, profit.

I meant transferring to another state in the region, not this particular state. Also, the state does not seem to consider living there for any educational purpose as proof of permanent residency. They have a lot of OOS undergrad and grad students at at least one of their public colleges, so I get why they wouldn't want to allow it as proof of residency.

 

[efle]

I believe 8.7% of NH residents who apply to Dartmouth Geisel matriculate

Looking at Table A1 it's actually that 8.7% of Dartmouth matriculants are from NH

8.7% of 92 total = 8 New Hampshire residents matriculated to Dartmouth

In total from New Hampshire there were 131 total applicants that same year, and 52 total matriculants to med schools anywhere in the country (table A-3 and A-4).

So it looks like the statements we can make are 8/131 or 6.1% of all NH applicants end up at Dartmouth, and 8/52 or 15.4% of NH applicants that get in somewhere end up at Dartmouth.

 

[cactusman]

Looking at Table A1 it's actually that 8.7% of Dartmouth matriculants are from NH

8.7% of 92 total = 8 New Hampshire residents matriculated to Dartmouth

In total from New Hampshire there were 131 total applicants that same year, and 52 total matriculants to med schools anywhere in the country (table A-3 and A-4).

So it looks like the statements we can make are 8/131 or 6.1% of all NH applicants end up at Dartmouth, and 8/52 or 15.4% of NH applicants that get in somewhere end up at Dartmouth.

But also according to A-1, 1.1% of Dartmouth's 7,571 applicants (83 applicants) came from New Hampshire. So 8/83, or 9.6% of NH applicants to Dartmouth went to Dartmouth.

 

[JoaoMoutinho]

Checked Table A-1 again and it's actually 9.6% of IS applicants who matriculated last year - yay! I think they try to save between 5 and 10 spots for NH residents, but NH is small and a relatively small portion of our students apply for med school, so that helps a lot.


I meant transferring to another state in the region, not this particular state. Also, the state does not seem to consider living there for any educational purpose as proof of permanent residency. They have a lot of OOS undergrad and grad students at at least one of their public colleges, so I get why they wouldn't want to allow it as proof of residency.

Missed that you were going to another state in the region. My bad there. If you were to go to that state, you can change your legal residence to wherever you are going to school. That's what I did about a year and a half before I applied, and I definitely counted as an in-state resident and qualified for cheaper tuition (though that didn't stop them from rejecting me...).

If the school that you're applying to transfer to isn't actually in the same state as where you want to go to medical school, I guess that this has become somewhat of an irrelevant topic though. If you're really interested in one particular school and state, do some research on their website and see if you can find anything in their policies about admissions. Best of luck!

 

[efle]

But also according to A-1, 1.1% of Dartmouth's 7,571 applicants (83 applicants) came from New Hampshire. So 8/83, or 9.6% of NH applicants to Dartmouth went to Dartmouth.

I'm surprised so many NH applicants skip Dartmouth! That's even better though, 10% is a great admit rate to be facing for such a strong med school

 

[aprilfools]

If I'm not mistaken I believe UConn considers NH in-state so you should definitely be looking at UConn too!

 

[mwsapphire]

I'm surprised so many NH applicants skip Dartmouth! That's even better though, 10% is a great admit rate to be facing for such a strong med school

Dartmouth has a major preference for Non Traditional applicants, I believe it's been mentioned on here at some point. They likely do accept plenty of younger students, but part of their mission is to "promote diversity in their medical school class" and that many of their students had careers before going after medicine. That might be why NH residents she away from it.

 

[Frogger27]

Out of curiosity, what is the other state? Is it the same state you are trying to transfer into a school? States have different rules but going to school in the state would 100% be considered strong ties

 

[cactusman]

Out of curiosity, what is the other state? Is it the same state you are trying to transfer into a school? States have different rules but going to school in the state would 100% be considered strong ties

Michigan, applied to a school in a different Midwest state (but I am pretty certain I will be rejected anyway).

 

[Frogger27]

Michigan, applied to a school in a different Midwest state (but I am pretty certain I will be rejected anyway).

Some of the Michigan schools are OOS friendly.. and yeah I would try to play up any ties if possible... not too sure if most schools even ask for ties to the area though, the only ones I remember were West Virginia and Marshall

 

[cactusman]

Some of the Michigan schools are OOS friendly.. and yeah I would try to play up any ties if possible... not too sure if most schools even ask for ties to the area though, the only ones I remember were West Virginia and Marshall

Yeah, I doubt it would help. Maybe if I made it to interview it would come up.