student drug testing

[violetd]

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Newly accepted, yay!

Question: has your school conducted drug testing? If so, when? I need to know when I have to stop hanging out with my stoner friends. You never know what's in the bean dip. 😀

 

[auburnO5]

Newly accepted, yay!

Question: has your school conducted drug testing? If so, when? I need to know when I have to stop hanging out with my stoner friends. You never know what's in the bean dip. 😀

Congrats!

Thankfully, no, mine never has. Because I love me some bean dip.

 

[Cinclus]

I believe only one school I applied to has a drug testing policy, and at this school, you get tested during orientation.

 

[crmellon]

Congrats!

Thankfully, no, mine never has. Because I love me some bean dip.

I see what you did there.

 

[st0w]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight… blame the bean dip.

 

[Bacchus]

Newly accepted, yay!

Question: has your school conducted drug testing? If so, when? I need to know when I have to stop hanging out with my stoner friends. You never know what's in the bean dip. 😀

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

 

[BenzylAcetate]

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

This coming from the god of drunken revelry.

 

[EBTrailRunner]

You've got until July to find new friends 🙂.

 

[jf1987]

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

Say what you will Bacchus.... But I did read the play by Euripides and I remember what happened to Pentheus.

 

[ensuii]

Policy varies by school...most will either test you either at orientation or some time before your 3rd year rotations. I would err on the side of caution and at the least be clean at orientation. Schools have different policies on how they handled this but it didn't seem like my school in particular was trying to catch anyone...we were given a range of dates by which he had to be tested but we were free to schedule when to come in on our own.

 

[235788]

I know oakland does. F that noise!

 

[HolySmokes]

This coming from the god of drunken revelry.

It's a little different given that alcohol is entirely legal.

 

[Etorphine]

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[TheMightySmiter]

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

This is me giving you flack. The occasional bean dip enjoyment on days off does not put anyone at risk.

 

[Bacchus]

No, it might not. But this is about being compliant with the law. <insert it's not dangerous, the law is to protect the government's interests here>

And its not dangerous until it gets laced or you wind up in a drug induced psychosis.

 

[EBTrailRunner]

No, it might not. But this is about being compliant with the law. <insert it's not dangerous, the law is to protect the government's interests here>

And its not dangerous until it gets laced or you wind up in a drug induced psychosis.

 

[Bacchus]

Maybe I spent too much time on my psych rotation 😎.

 

[EBTrailRunner]

Heh, I can understand that. But OP, to answer your question, if you want to play it safe, you should stop at least a month before orientation.

 

[violetd]

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

One of the best things about being a grown-up is getting to decide for my damn self what that looks like. 😉

Thanks for the input, folks. I'll make sure to avoid the tokers a month out from orientation.

 

[H Y F R]

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

Well said.

I feel scared for patients given the irresponsible and enabling comments and views of some of the people in this discussion. Act like a physician.

 

[deleted103644]

I just think it's unfair that a coke head can pass a urine test after 72 hours of abstinence, but a single joint can stick with you for 6 months.

 

[Arbor Vitae]

Say what you will Bacchus.... But I did read the play by Euripides and I remember what happened to Pentheus.

 

[alerk323]

No, it might not. But this is about being compliant with the law. <insert it's not dangerous, the law is to protect the government's interests here>

And its not dangerous until it gets laced or you wind up in a drug induced psychosis.

lol, I've literally had more friends have their food at restaurants laced (true story) than weed. let's at least use arguments that make it seem like you know what you're talking about.

 

[tiedyeddog]

I'm sure I'll get flack for it, but it's time to grow up and stop using whatever you're using.

Seconded.....

This coming from the god of drunken revelry.

It's a little different given that alcohol is entirely legal.

Yeah, as Nburnett said, drinking is fine, just don't let it spiral out of control.

lol, I've literally had more friends have their food at restaurants laced (true story) than weed. let's at least use arguments that make it seem like you know what you're talking about.

Laced with what? Butter?

I have had zero percent of my friends fail a drug test due to a "laced" food they purchased at a restaurant.

I have had many friends fail urine tests.

 

[Oxygen206]

lol, I've literally had more friends have their food at restaurants laced (true story) than weed. let's at least use arguments that make it seem like you know what you're talking about.

What kind of idiot drug dealer is going to waste precious product they could be charging good money for on restaurant food?? Seems highly illogical.

 

[Temerit]

It's scary how easily you guys are swayed by government policy and how little free-thinking you guys seem to do.

Why the hell do you think it's okay for a physician to drink, but not to smoke weed?

 

[Oxygen206]

It's scary how easily you guys are swayed by government policy and how little free-thinking you guys seem to do.

Why the hell do you think it's okay for a physician to drink, but not to smoke weed?

+1000000000000000000000000

I'm not FOR recreational drug use, but I can't say that I'm against it either. I think some people should never touch any type of psychoactive substance, but this doesn't apply to everyone by any means. Then again, I am a bit of a hippie 😉 Everything in moderation 👍

 

[dr zaius]

no, you probably won't get caught, but smoking the reefer at the medical school level doesn't sound like the best idea. It is already tough enough as it is, why also voluntarily take a memory-inhibiting drug at the same time while competing against those who are sober?

Are you at Loma Linda or something? The post test period is anything but sober for many students. Anyway, smoking after a test isn't going to hamstring you any more than that night of binge drinking.

H Y F R: your horse is really tall, bro. Get off it.

Policy is policy, though. Find out what your institution expects and adhere to it. Better safe than sorry.

 

[H Y F R]

H Y F R: your horse is really tall, bro. Get off it.

You don't know me bro - kick back. Thanks for the analogy, but please keep your commands to yourself.

Smoking pot is illegal. We are aspiring and practicing physicians, not policy makers. We follow the law as it stands. I'm sure you practiced this line of reasoning when you prepped for your interviews. The only time this will change is not only when smoking pot is de-criminalized, but also when people aren't urine tested for every job and position in the health care industry. But this isn't the case now, so we are best served telling students to lay off blowing the dro and act like the physician they aspire to be.

 

[Arbor Vitae]

Bath salts, the legal alternative.

 

[alerk323]

Seconded.....


Laced with what? Butter?

I have had zero percent of my friends fail a drug test due to a "laced" food they purchased at a restaurant.

I have had many friends fail urine tests.

haha yea there was this indian restaurant that a heard from multiple sources got a "shroom" like feeling after eating there. Maybe it was nothing, either way I've never heard of weed being laced, it would be just as illogical for a drug dealer to do so as with food. I never said I dont know anyone who got caught through a urine test... obviously you shouldn't smoke if there's a chance you'll get drug tested. I was merely pointing out that the statement "weed might be laced it could be dangerous" is ignorant and indicative of someone who spouts whatever argument they hear that supports their view.

 

[Ironmandoc]

My school tests and most hospitals that you do clinical rotations in will require some sort of screening.

Just don't smoke pot and it's not an issue

 

[linebacker57]

I am in no case advocating usage of drugs, but does anyone actually know anyone who has been dismissed from medical school for failing a drug test durring orientation? that seems like a tremendous hassle for the school to deal with. IMHO, the schools are drug testing you so that they can make the required intervention before recreational drug use turns into a problem, which will cause problems in years 3 and 4. That being said, dont be an idiot

 

[loveoforganic]

I have friends that smoke and get by fine. They'll probably never get caught. Smoking should be legal. That said, I think it's a stupid decision to smoke during med school. Tiny risk but with potentially huge consequences, and not that much benefit. You're a grown whatever and can do what you want, but keep the risk reward in mind, and try not to cry too much if you happen to get busted and run into issues with your school or DEA licensing.

 

[tiedyeddog]

It's scary how easily you guys are swayed by government policy and how little free-thinking you guys seem to do.

Why the hell do you think it's okay for a physician to drink, but not to smoke weed?

Dude, I personally don't care what you or anyone does. The fact is smoking weed is illegal. Medical students should refrain from doing illegal things. When weed becomes legal I will change my tune.

Simple as that.

 

[BigBlueBear]

Man why would you even risk it? Even if there was a 0.0000001% chance of getting caught I don't see how anybody could possibly think getting high outweighs risking ruining all that hard work it took to get into med school.

 

[Oxygen206]

oooops.

 

[NightGod]

Dude, I personally don't care what you or anyone does. The fact is smoking weed is illegal. Medical students should refrain from doing illegal things. When weed becomes legal I will change my tune.

Simple as that.

+1

I agree it's stupid that it's illegal. But until that changes, it seems to be hardly worth the risk with as long as it can show up on a test. Note: I've had more than one job that does hair samples instead of urine. Hope you rock a crew cut...

 

[deleted103644]

I am in no case advocating usage of drugs, but does anyone actually know anyone who has been dismissed from medical school for failing a drug test durring orientation? that seems like a tremendous hassle for the school to deal with. IMHO, the schools are drug testing you so that they can make the required intervention before recreational drug use turns into a problem, which will cause problems in years 3 and 4. That being said, dont be an idiot

I don't know of this happening to anyone for medical school, but it definitely happens for residencies.

Many hospitals have a no tolerance policy for this kind of stuff, and federal hospitals like VAs definitely don't. I could imagine a school kicking someone out if they require rotations at a hospital with a strict drug policy.

 

[Yonko Shanks]

You don't know me bro - kick back. Thanks for the analogy, but please keep your commands to yourself.

Smoking pot is illegal. We are aspiring and practicing physicians, not policy makers. We follow the law as it stands. I'm sure you practiced this line of reasoning when you prepped for your interviews. The only time this will change is not only when smoking pot is de-criminalized, but also when people aren't urine tested for every job and position in the health care industry. But this isn't the case now, so we are best served telling students to lay off blowing the dro and act like the physician they aspire to be.

 

[willen101383]

My school tests and most hospitals that you do clinical rotations in will require some sort of screening.

Just don't smoke pot and it's not an issue

I have ZERO rotation sites that test. And out of the hundreds of sites my school uses across the board...only like 3 test. Nor did my school ever test anyone.

 

[NickNaylor]

Dude, I personally don't care what you or anyone does. The fact is smoking weed is illegal. Medical students should refrain from doing illegal things. When weed becomes legal I will change my tune.

Simple as that.

I think the problem is that people don't realize that you can believe one thing (the criminalization of weed is silly) while doing the opposite (not smoking) due to a variety of factors. Pointing out the fact that smoking weed during medical school is a high risk activity (yes, even if your school doesn't test) doesn't necessarily mean you've fallen for government propaganda. It means you're risk averse and not interested in losing the chance at your career.

 

[notbobtrustme]

Bath salts, the legal alternative.

probably the best picture on the internet.

 

[NightGod]

I think the problem is that people don't realize that you can believe one thing (the criminalization of weed is silly) while doing the opposite (not smoking) due to a variety of factors. Pointing out the fact that smoking weed during medical school is a high risk activity (yes, even if your school doesn't test) doesn't necessarily mean you've fallen for government propaganda. It means you're risk averse and not interested in losing the chance at your career.

Don't go making sense now Nick, you know SDN is not the proper place for that sort of silliness!

 

[BABSstudent]

A MS1 at University of Washington was suspended and required to go to a drug addiction facility for failing a drug test. He can restart in the fall, but he has to repeat year 1. If he fails another test, he will not be allowed to continue the program.

Why waste the effort that you put in to becoming a physician on one blunt. It is not worth it. Just take a break for a few years and then return to your hobby later, if you even want to continue it.

 

[auburnO5]

one blunt

Hahahahahahahaha.......

 

[BABSstudent]

Hey, we know everyone downgrades how much they do it. If they get caught, they are going to say, "But I only ate a brownie that I thought was just a brownie, it wasn't like I was smoking full time. You can't punish me for an accident."
or
"But I didn't even smoke it. I was just around other people that were doing it."

It is never their fault. That's why companies and schools have to be so harsh with their policies. If you get caught, whether being just above the minimum or way over, you are still over. Each school has their own policy that they will then implement.