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I'm looking at First Aid, BRS Pathology, BRS Physiology, Gojian Lectures, Pathoma, and Moore's Clinical Anatomy.
I'll subscribe to USWorld when the time comes.
http://www.asdablog.com/comprehensive-basic-science-exam-take-one/
Use whatever method medical students use to study for the Step 1.
I'll subscribe to USWorld when the time comes.
http://www.asdablog.com/comprehensive-basic-science-exam-take-one/
Use whatever method medical students use to study for the Step 1.
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In my opinion it is better to know a couple sources really well than to spread yourself too thin. If you have a lot of time between now and September I would study:
First Aid for the USMLE step one
USMLE World step 1 question bank
NBME CBSE Self assessments
Pathoma
Goljan Audio
I started studying in May and only had enough time for First Aid, Uworld, NBME CBSE exams. Good luck.
First Aid for the USMLE step one
USMLE World step 1 question bank
NBME CBSE Self assessments
Pathoma
Goljan Audio
I started studying in May and only had enough time for First Aid, Uworld, NBME CBSE exams. Good luck.
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Hey everyone,
I go to a dental school where we take NBDE part one after first year... I was planning on studying for the CBSE after to take in September. Does anyone know if the exam tests heavily on pharmacology?
Thanks!
I go to a dental school where we take NBDE part one after first year... I was planning on studying for the CBSE after to take in September. Does anyone know if the exam tests heavily on pharmacology?
Thanks!
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I was thinking about this same thing and just talked to someone about this. Do you know if it says anywhere how long a score is good for? I'd hate to take it then in 2 years it's not valid or something.
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I had the same question. Here is the rely I got..."The AAOMS will maintain your score reports on file at AAOMS headquarters for no less than seven years" You can use it for at least that amount of time. Hope that helps.
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If you take the test more than once, do programs see that you took it multiple times, even if the highest score is reported?
Can't emphasize how important this is. The important thing is doing as many questions as possible and understanding exactly why you didn't get it right.
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You can take the exam as many times as you want. No one will see how many times you take it.
As far as subjects go... It's not the USMLE Step 1, it's the equivalent, since dental students cannot take the USMLE. The exam covers the same material. Subjects can mixed together in the same question. It doesn't necessarily cover any one area heavier than another. The exam is made of clinical vignettes and you answer questions based on the info given and everything you would learn in medical school. It's not remotely close to NBDE.
4 Hrs 15 Min
184-200 questions
System: General Principles (40-50%), Individual Organ Systems (50-60%) - Hematopoietic/lymphoreticular, central/peripheral nervous, skin/connective tissue, musculoskeletal, respiratory, cardiovascular, gastro, renal/urinary, reproductive, endocrine
Process: Normal (30-50%), Abnormal (30-50%), Principles of therapeutics (15-25%), Psychosocial/cultural/occupational/environment consideration (10-20%)
Currently, and this will change: A "passing score" is 65. According to a prominent program director who did a small study on the exam scores.
Exam Contents:
Example NBDE: Which of the following mechanisms would most likely be involved in the development of acute pulmonary edema in a patient with CHF?
A. Increase vascular perm
B - Inc plasma osmotic pressure
C. Dec plasma osmotic pressure
D. Inc intravascular hydrostatic pressure
E. Dec intrasvascular hydrostatic pressure
Example NBME: 50 yr old man has 10 yr history of poorly controlled HTN. Vital signs: Pulse = 96/min Respirations = 16/min
BP LA= 226/120 mmHg RA= 218/118 mmHg
With the patient in the left lateral decubitus position, a late diastolic sound is heard best with the bell at the apex. Which of the following is the most likely explanation for this auscultatory finding?
Aortic insufficiency
Aortic stenosis
Mitral insufficiency
Mitral stenosis
Opening snap
pulmonic insufficiency
S3
S4
Tricuspid Insufficiency
As far as subjects go... It's not the USMLE Step 1, it's the equivalent, since dental students cannot take the USMLE. The exam covers the same material. Subjects can mixed together in the same question. It doesn't necessarily cover any one area heavier than another. The exam is made of clinical vignettes and you answer questions based on the info given and everything you would learn in medical school. It's not remotely close to NBDE.
4 Hrs 15 Min
184-200 questions
System: General Principles (40-50%), Individual Organ Systems (50-60%) - Hematopoietic/lymphoreticular, central/peripheral nervous, skin/connective tissue, musculoskeletal, respiratory, cardiovascular, gastro, renal/urinary, reproductive, endocrine
Process: Normal (30-50%), Abnormal (30-50%), Principles of therapeutics (15-25%), Psychosocial/cultural/occupational/environment consideration (10-20%)
Currently, and this will change: A "passing score" is 65. According to a prominent program director who did a small study on the exam scores.
Exam Contents:
Example NBDE: Which of the following mechanisms would most likely be involved in the development of acute pulmonary edema in a patient with CHF?
A. Increase vascular perm
B - Inc plasma osmotic pressure
C. Dec plasma osmotic pressure
D. Inc intravascular hydrostatic pressure
E. Dec intrasvascular hydrostatic pressure
Example NBME: 50 yr old man has 10 yr history of poorly controlled HTN. Vital signs: Pulse = 96/min Respirations = 16/min
BP LA= 226/120 mmHg RA= 218/118 mmHg
With the patient in the left lateral decubitus position, a late diastolic sound is heard best with the bell at the apex. Which of the following is the most likely explanation for this auscultatory finding?
Aortic insufficiency
Aortic stenosis
Mitral insufficiency
Mitral stenosis
Opening snap
pulmonic insufficiency
S3
S4
Tricuspid Insufficiency
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Depends on how well your basic science curriculum was in dental school. Additionally, another significant factor is how much time you get for breaks or mandatory clinic attendance, ect and the timing of the test. Many take 2-3 months of pretty focused study OR however long it takes depending on the school schedule.
Many are taking the test twice because they don't adequately prepare the first time.
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Uworld and pathoma are the keys in my opinion. Start heavy pathoma to understand the basics but do not hold off on uworld...the more questions you do the better you will do on the test. Uworld is going to show just how difficult this test is and help you become familiar with high yield questions that they love to ask on the nbme, it's impossible to go through first aid and know which things are more high yield than others. For example, they love to ask gonorrhea treatment questions because you have to remember to treat possible chlamydia at the same time. Uworld will ask that over and over, but it's just a line in first aid.
After you feel comfortable with the basics in pathoma start reviewing first aid while continuing questions. You'll get a good sense of what's relevant and every time you review fa you'll see something that you feel you've never read before. You don't have to know everything perfectly, you just have to be able to pick the right answer.
Goljan is good to break up the monotony of reading but not great for primary resource.
Time and total questions (2-3 uworld run throughs and practice nbme online) are directly correlated with your score.
After you feel comfortable with the basics in pathoma start reviewing first aid while continuing questions. You'll get a good sense of what's relevant and every time you review fa you'll see something that you feel you've never read before. You don't have to know everything perfectly, you just have to be able to pick the right answer.
Goljan is good to break up the monotony of reading but not great for primary resource.
Time and total questions (2-3 uworld run throughs and practice nbme online) are directly correlated with your score.
I would also like to know the answer to this question, Thanks
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They do not. Just send the score report with your best score.
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For someone who is doing "good enough" but not stellar on the CBSE but has good rank what do you suggest to improve my odds at a top tier/competative OMS program? I feel like so much weight is put on 1 exam is that really all program directors focus on 🙁
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Does anyone have any info on the ADAT for omfs applicants? I'm a first year and scheduled to take the cbse on July 30th. I won't be graduating till 2019 it would he helpful to know if the cbse will still be required or if omfs residencies will switch to the ADAT by then.
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My PD told me that they discussed about ADAT vs CBSE at 2015 AAOMS annual meeting. The general consensus was that they will stick to CBSE as they are already familiar with CBSE scores and they had been using it in the past cycles. While many other specialty programs may choose ADAT, OMFS will most likely continue to use CBSE.
