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What did the people without one do on that test? Were they successful?

The part that "required" a PDA was only 1 or 2 questions regarding when to immunize a patient with a given vaccine. You could either use the "shots" program on your PDA, or use the handy chart given to every student before the test began. Either way it was hard to get the question wrong.
 
No, they do not make you buy one. They just pressure you to buy one by letting you think it's really important and you won't succeed without it. Like Noeljan said, it will be used on one test and even there it is optional. I would say about 30-50% of my class never bought a PDA.

Thanks Nick. I just canceled my Amazon order for a Pam TX. 😀 I hate having to spend money for unnecessary things.
 
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Where should I NOT look for an apartment? I would like to live close to the med school but I've heard about the crime. Where is it NOT safe to live? Where is the closest SAFE place to live? What about downtown, is that safe?
What about safe housing on the metro line? It seems like it would be cool to live near downtown or Allentown and take the metro to the South campus??

Try not to live on the east side of Main street (at least if you're downtown). There are places that are even close to school where there is crime, but I think the biggest thing is car burglaries and the best way to make sure it doesn't happen to you is to MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN PLAIN VIEW inside your car. I lived in a no-so-great area before moving to Buffalo and there was nowhere near as many people I knew getting their windows smashed in. I live downtown, personally. The rent is relatively expensive compared to everywhere else in Buffalo, but since Buffalo is so cheap compared to everywhere else you can live in a nice high-rise downtown for the price of a ghetto apartment in another city. Living nice to school can be nice if you plan to be at school A LOT or if you're really worried about gas. The only problem with is there is nothing to do around school. If you live on Elmwood or anywhere near downtown there is plenty to do within walking distance (i.e. bars, coffee shops, restaurants, bars, stores, bars, bars, and even some bars) and you're still not terribly far from school. It takes me 10-15 mins to drive therein the morning from downtown. Plus if you live downtown and end up liking your living situation then all of the hospitals are within a VERY short distance from where you live - there are none near school except ECMC and that is almost just as close to downtown as it is to school
 
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Here is a link to the calendar in case you all haven't seen it yet:
http://www.smbs.buffalo.edu/ome/ome_curriculum.htm
I believe there is ~30 tests for 1st year students. In the first semester when you have anatomy overlapping your fundamentals classes there is sometimes tests within the same week or very close to one another at least (unless they've changed something). Other than that there is enough time to prepare for exams. I thought it got much better in 2nd semester when you're just doing one organ system at a time and only have tests in that module. You also have Clinical Practice of Medicine exams that overlap the modules in 1st and 2nd semester but they are relatively easy and won't get in the way of your studies.

I pretty much only ask questions during class (between lectures) or via e-mail sometimes, but from what I've heard almost all of the professors seem to make an effort to help students out whether it be meeting with them or talking via e-mail/phone.

Classes are 8:00am-noon every day and on Mondays you have CPM after the lunch hour until 4:00pm as well. So that leaves a lot of free time for studying or slacking off - depending on how much time you need. Other mandatory things you need to attend are going to preceptor throughout the semester. Ideally you'd attend 6-7 sessions I think (one for each CPM assignment), but its possible to do more than one assignment in a sessions and some students choose to do their assignments when volunteering at free clinics or elsewhere. So beyond class the only mandatory thing you need to attend is preceptor and that is on a schedule that you work out with the doctor you are assigned to

Books:
When you get to school for orientation you'll probably get a list of books that students have voted on and there is a % next to each book as to how many thought it was helpful. Although it is pretty much true that everything you need to know is in the notes (or was said during lecture) it can only help you to pick up some of the "popular"/useful books to use as a reference throughout your first two years. If you were a non-science major or didn't take a lot of classes that many students took coming into medical school you may want to do a little extra reading just to get a bigger-picture view of what you're learning or to clarify some of the concepts that are taught at a bare minimum. Anatomy atlases are pretty much a must-have, because the notes just don't cut it. I can help with specific recommendations later on if you want, just let me know,

Medical Instruments:
In the beginning of the year you get a chance to purchase $700 of diagnostic equipment consisting of a stethoscope, a BP cuff, otoscope, opthalmoscope, reflex hammer, etc, etc... You really only need the stethoscope and possibly the BP cuff. The rooms that you take clinical tests in are all equipped with everything you need minus the stethoscope and everyone I know had access to all the other non-stethoscope equipment at their preceptor. There may come a time when you want to practice on eachother outside of school, and in that case you could just borrow equipment from someone else, OR you could just go to school and get the keys to the clinical exam rooms and practice in there without having to borrow equipment.

PDA:
The school also has a MANDATORY PDA purchase requirement. During 1st year the ONLY time you'll really need to use this is for a CPM exam or two (you'll need Epocrates) and if your preceptor is really anal and knows that we're required to have them then they may as you to look up info on your PDA so you'd need one then. I would recommend against buying one until 3rd year when you'll actually use it (and you may not even need one then if you can access a computer ASAP whenever you need to). This is another $300 you'll save.

KAPLAN:
Seomone from Kaplan will come and try to sell you their review books for Step I as well as a subscription to Q-bank (questions for Step 1). I can't remember how much this costs but it is expensive, and you should not be studying for Step 1 during your first year. Some students claim that they used the Kaplan books as a reference throughout 1st and 2nd year when something from lecture needed clarification, but thats what your textbooks are for (since the profs will most likely be teaching you lessons based on readings in the recommended text books) and the textbooks are cheaper. Furthermore, you'll probably end up buying some other books for Step 1 prep other than Kaplan, so don't let these people fool you. If you really want Kaplan books then wait for older students who've takne Step 1 to start e-mailing your list-serve and selling their Kaplan books and you'll get them for 1/10th the price.

I think thats all I have for now, so hopefully that helps some of you out

This was very helpful, thank you.

As for the PDA, you say "mandatory" but then recommend not getting one??
 
Try not to live on the east side of Main street (at least if you're downtown). There are places that are even close to school where there is crime, but I think the biggest thing is car burglaries and the best way to make sure it doesn't happen to you is to MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN PLAIN VIEW inside your car. I lived in a no-so-great area before moving to Buffalo and there was nowhere near as many people I knew getting their windows smashed in. I live downtown, personally. The rent is relatively expensive compared to everywhere else in Buffalo, but since Buffalo is so cheap compared to everywhere else you can live in a nice high-rise downtown for the price of a ghetto apartment in another city. Living nice to school can be nice if you plan to be at school A LOT or if you're really worried about gas. The only problem with is there is nothing to do around school. If you live on Elmwood or anywhere near downtown there is plenty to do within walking distance (i.e. bars, coffee shops, restaurants, bars, stores, bars, bars, and even some bars) and you're still not terribly far from school. It takes me 10-15 mins to drive therein the morning from downtown. Plus if you live downtown and end up liking your living situation then all of the hospitals are within a VERY short distance from where you live - there are none near school except ECMC and that is almost just as close to downtown as it is to school

Can you give me an idea of the areas in downtown that are safe, besides staying away from the east side of main? I saw some nice apts on main, the very southern end.
 
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I finally actually get to post here and stop lurking!!! My question is, do I need to get on housing right away (as in this weekend, I didn't have plans yet) or is the Buffalo market one where I'd be better off to wait until closer to August to get it arranged? I kind of fell in love with the Lofts at Elk Terminal, which are downtown by the water. Do I not want to live there because of the area?? It's kind of pricey, but luckily I have a guaranteed roommate who will be working (the fiance) who is more than willing to help offset the costs. Is spending 500 out of the 740 allotted for housing just on rent too high? That is the one thing that I would rather splurge on- I can live without cable or fancy food, but my home has to be my sanctuary! Plus I have pets, and a ton of the places that are more affordable (this place is 1200 a month, but splitting it unevenly makes it affordable for us) don't allow them!

I'm planning on heading over this weekend unless I hear other advice...I would wait until the housing weekend, but the boy can only take off one day of work, not a Thurs and Fri like he would have to for us to go to the organized weekend. Any help about my preferences would be great! I'm also looking into some of the apartments that people have suggested earlier in the thread.
 
I finally actually get to post here and stop lurking!!! My question is, do I need to get on housing right away (as in this weekend, I didn't have plans yet) or is the Buffalo market one where I'd be better off to wait until closer to August to get it arranged? I kind of fell in love with the Lofts at Elk Terminal, which are downtown by the water. Do I not want to live there because of the area?? It's kind of pricey, but luckily I have a guaranteed roommate who will be working (the fiance) who is more than willing to help offset the costs. Is spending 500 out of the 740 allotted for housing just on rent too high? That is the one thing that I would rather splurge on- I can live without cable or fancy food, but my home has to be my sanctuary! Plus I have pets, and a ton of the places that are more affordable (this place is 1200 a month, but splitting it unevenly makes it affordable for us) don't allow them!

I'm planning on heading over this weekend unless I hear other advice...I would wait until the housing weekend, but the boy can only take off one day of work, not a Thurs and Fri like he would have to for us to go to the organized weekend. Any help about my preferences would be great! I'm also looking into some of the apartments that people have suggested earlier in the thread.

The lofts at elk terminal are supposed to be VERY nice. They're constantly rated as some of the nicest apartments around. While I'm sure the property itself is safe, the area around it isn't all that spectacular. Its really just outside of whats considered "downtown" and approaches some pretty nasty areas of Buffalo. You're also not really within walking distance of anything besides HSBC arena, so unless you're a huge hockey fan, that really doesn't benefit you that much.

As for the rest of the housing market in buffalo.... well... its definitely a renters market. There are TONS of apartments for rent, and a lot of them are gorgeous. Keep an eye on Craigslist and Artvoice.com if you want to live in the city. The Elmwood Village, Allentown, and Hertel areas are all very nice (elmwood being my personal fav..and my home!) The most you should pay in the city on rent is 1500, and thats for a top of the line ultimate luxury apartment. Most very nice apartments run 700-1000 for a 2 bedroom. Although some of the apartment complexes can be nice, you can do much better finding an individually owned apartment thats part of a house (Many of the houses in the elmwood/allentown area are HUGE and have been remodeled into 2+ apartments.) As for pets -- most landlords can be talked into cats or small dogs if you're willing to sign the paperwork and take responsibility for damage.

To give you an idea -- my apt is 2200 sq ft, 2 bedrooms, 2 bath, 2 offices, lvng rm, dining room, big kitchen, laundry room, and we pay 975/month, split 2 ways (so 485 each.) And we're in one of the best areas of the city.

If you want to save even more money, you can find smaller, relatively nice places in the area for as low as 500/month for a 2 bedroom.

Alright, back to studying for Step 1. Good luck everyone!
 
I finally actually get to post here and stop lurking!!! My question is, do I need to get on housing right away (as in this weekend, I didn't have plans yet) or is the Buffalo market one where I'd be better off to wait until closer to August to get it arranged? I kind of fell in love with the Lofts at Elk Terminal, which are downtown by the water. Do I not want to live there because of the area?? It's kind of pricey, but luckily I have a guaranteed roommate who will be working (the fiance) who is more than willing to help offset the costs. Is spending 500 out of the 740 allotted for housing just on rent too high? That is the one thing that I would rather splurge on- I can live without cable or fancy food, but my home has to be my sanctuary! Plus I have pets, and a ton of the places that are more affordable (this place is 1200 a month, but splitting it unevenly makes it affordable for us) don't allow them!

I'm planning on heading over this weekend unless I hear other advice...I would wait until the housing weekend, but the boy can only take off one day of work, not a Thurs and Fri like he would have to for us to go to the organized weekend. Any help about my preferences would be great! I'm also looking into some of the apartments that people have suggested earlier in the thread.

There is no need to hurry. My roommate and I found our place late and to top it off we did it all via word of mouth, internet and a fax machine. Besides coming for my interview, the first time I've been to Buffalo was August 1st hah! $500 is definitely not too expensive for rent especially if you're living downtown and in a nice complex. I know people that pay quite a bit more than that because they're renting a 1BR by themselves and whatnot, but at the same time I know people who pay less than $300/mo for their share of rent in some circumstances (it may be in a multiunit home as a previous poster pointed out, maybe not such a great neighborhood, and you may have to pay heat on top of that price which can get really high, etc, etc).

If you can't make it for housing weekend (I didn't go), then make yourself a list of places to check out and set up appointments as necesary with the landlords ahead of time. You could get it all done in a day if you wanted to.

PS I'm moving out of my place at The Westbrook in the end of July and moving to The Mayflower for next year. If anyone is interested in an apartment starting August 1st, PM me. Its a 2BR, huge, alll hardwood floors, remodeled 3 years ago w/ brand new appliances, overlooking delaware avenue from the 2nd floor. We're splitting $1050/mo for everything including heat, elec, water, etc (all we pay for is cable).
 
I think I know where I want to sign a lease for, but there's one more aspect of my budget I'm not sure about. How much out of the $5940 that they budget for books/supplies do you really spend in this category?? Should I plan on all of it, most of it, very little? I already had a Treo, so I don't even have to worry about buying a PDA. If someone could give me their yearly or monthly estimate that they spend on books/supplies first year, I would really appreciate it! Thanks a ton!


Also, any first years buy books that they would recommend but are interested in now selling to an incoming???? PM me with info if you'd like!

Edit: I just realized something else, and had a mini panic attack. Since the office doesn't open until Monday- does UB accept AP credits (I APed out of one semester of english)??? I thought I researched all of this before I applied, but I just got my acceptance paperwork and both the paperwork and website just suggest you take upper levels if you AP out. The upper level writing I took isn't designated as ENG, its technically BIO (it was a scientific writing course, for research grants/reviews/etc). Am I in a major pickle here??? Monday won't come soon enough for me to call the office!
 
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Hi, I am going to be a first-year and I just have a few questions for the upper-years or anyone else in-the-know 🙂.

1) Is there is a school dress code for scrubs? (i.e., are we just allowed to wear certain-color scrubs and/or scrubs w/ a UB logo?) I am just wondering if it would be OK to order cheaper scrubs online for anatomy in the fall.

2) Is the HPV vaccine mandatory for women? Or is it just recommended by UB?

Thanks very much!!! And congratulations to everyone who was accepted :clap:...can't wait to meet you guys! 😍
 
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DrWhoFan, I'm calling the office tomorrow with a few questions, and the vaccine is one of them. After I talk to someone, I'll post here about the vaccines so that you get a heads up on it too. I plan on getting vaccinated for HPV, but I just had my checkup about 2 weeks ago, and didn't want to start the series since I knew I'd be moving soon. If I can, I'd rather just start it once I get settled in Buffalo so going back won't be a hassle, and I can just get them all at the same doc's.
 
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Hi there
we got two scrub tops and bottoms (blue and green) the first week of school sometime (or a little bit after that). So that is no extra charge (it's included somewhere). Other than that, you can wear any color you like. I actually bought a really cute set from the medical bookstore.
As far as the HPV vaccine, I am not sure. I didn't even realize it was a requirement last year.

You only have to wear scrubs in anatomy, right?
 
You only have to wear scrubs in anatomy, right?

Yes. No need to buy any extra ones if you don't want. FYI- most people I know didn't wash their scrubs every day either, they just changed into them at the lockers before anatomy and then changed out after class. Also, plenty of people wore their own ones from past jobs, etc.
 
Hi, I am going to be a first-year and I just have a few questions for the upper-years or anyone else in-the-know 🙂.

1) Is there is a school dress code for scrubs? (i.e., are we just allowed to wear certain-color scrubs and/or scrubs w/ a UB logo?) I am just wondering if it would be OK to order cheaper scrubs online for anatomy in the fall.

2) Is the HPV vaccine mandatory for women? Or is it just recommended by UB?

Thanks very much!!! And congratulations to everyone who was accepted :clap:...can't wait to meet you guys! 😍

There is no dress codes for scrubs and you get two pairs free before anatomy starts. If you get in a clinical situation where you need to or can wear scrubs you should not be wearing the ones they give you with the "UB Human Anatomy" logo though. When you get to that point, the cheapest place I've ever found scrubs at is http://www.tcsuniforms.com/shop/preview.asp?URI=3499

Unless they changed something it is not mandatory - I don't even remember seeing it on the vaccine list. In fact I can't imagine it being a mandatory vaccine since as far as I know its illegal to make an HPV vaccine mandatory. Hopefully you won't be having sex with any of your patients anyways 🙂
 
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I actually did call and ask about the AP credits, and she assured me that my situation is fine (it was English AP). She said they insist on higher level for sciences, but english AP isn't a big deal if you didn't take a bunch of other writing courses (I took one other course designated as ENG, and a science writing course that was designated as BIO...mentioned for clarity in case people search for this in the future).

Also, I called health services and they said that the HPV vaccine is listed on the form as a required vaccine, but it is in fact not required for entering med students. So, if you want to get it go for it, but don't stress about having it done before starting school in the fall. You can always complete it over there once you're moved in and settled!

Oh, and thanks for the tips on books and supplies!
 
ditto, thanks so much for the tips on books/supplies! much appreciated! 🙂

Btw, scowdeva, were you able to properly access UB ePay (for the $100 deposit) yet? The system still does not recognize my SSN and we have not been given our UB person#s. Are other people having a similar problem accessing the system to pay the deposit online?
 
ditto, thanks so much for the tips on books/supplies! much appreciated! 🙂

Btw, scowdeva, were you able to properly access UB ePay (for the $100 deposit) yet? The system still does not recognize my SSN and we have not been given our UB person#s. Are other people having a similar problem accessing the system to pay the deposit online?

You could always send a check.
 
You could always send a check.

Yeah, I asked about the person number when I called too, since the online payment option didn't recognize my social...she said that it would recognize me by maybe the end of the week, since it takes a while for them to update the computers. The online status actually just changed today to ACCEPTED for me, and I got a phone call last Tues, so I guess the computer side of things is a bit behind. I just mailed the check in the envelope with the paper we had to sign...I figure they'll have it before the online method would recognize me anyways, and I was already mailing something to the office, so it'd be easier overall.
 
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Its come to my attention that the orientation committee has been receiving a lot of e-mails about the PDAs and whether or not they are mandatory, etc, etc. Yes I hear everything that goes on because med school is a very small world 🙄. First of all they haven't even sent the orientation packet to you guys/gals yet, so in their eyes you know nothing about PDAs and the like. At the very least wait until you get some sort of information from the OC before you send them questions about it. It is very important for everyone to realize that as far as the school is concerned, as well as everyone who is an agent of the school (yes, this includes the orientation committee), the PDAs are a MANDATORY PURCHASE for incoming medical students! With that said, if you e-mail them and ask them whether or not a PDA is required they are going to say "yes it is required." Furthermore when you mention that "...the people on the website (referring to SDN) say you don't need one...", the orientation committee doesn't know what the hell you're talking about. Don't e-mail anyone who works for the school and ask them if the PDAs are mandatory anymore, because I can tell you right now that their answer will be yes.

As a couple of us stated earlier in the thread, the only time we were really required to use our PDA was for a few questions on a test in the Clinical Practice of Medicine class. Dr Symons would be pissed if I sent out an e-mail discouraging the purchase of PDAs via the 2012 class list-serve which is why I expressed my opinion on an anonymous forum on the internet as a student who has been in your shoes before. For all I know the test might be totally different for your year and you could be required to solely answer 100 questions about Rx dosing, side-effects, contraindications, and drug-drug interactions in which case you'd fail the test without a PDA. In this case you'd be screwed if you didn't buy the PDA up front like the school was saying. On the other hand they will tell you ahead of time what you're going to be expected to do with your PDA on any test, so even if you really do need to buy one you can still follow the advice I gave earlier and at the very least wait a bit to see if you're really going to need to go out and blow $300 right away when you get to school or if you can borrow a PDA from one of your friends in the 2nd year class. Again, it will do you no good to e-mail the OC about the "requirement for a PDA" and it only wastes their time. As far as they are concerned it is mandatory from the get-go.

Hi guys,

I just wanted to respond to this... First off, I am a second year, and a member of the Orientation Committee (the Dr. Dre wannabe, for those of you privy to the OC email...). I would hardly consider myself, or anyone on the OC, an "agent of the school."

I will be the first to tell you my HONEST opinion regarding all of the School's recommendations, including their suggestions for housing, meal plans (don't do it, as I've mentioned to some of you already), books, medical equipment, and the technology requirements. Again, I'm not merely a conduit for the School to push things on you, nor is anyone else on the OC. We're here to help you learn the ropes, get acquainted with Buffalo, and hopefully enable you to make a smooth transition into the sweeeeet SMBS community. Trust.

I will also be the first to tell you that I did NOT buy the Kaplan board review package the School will try to sell you in the first week, nor did I buy even close to three-quarters of the books that were required throughout the course of the year (uh, I bought one). I often times ignored the School's advice regarding class attendance, and yes - I even accidentally slept through some of the Orientation events (but don't do that, because this year's Orientation is going to be super amazing, and you shouldn't miss any of it). I have my own thoughts on the diagnostic equipment you'll be required to buy, and am happy to share those with you in a different forum. Again, no one on the OC is here to lead you astray. We're here to help you make as smooth a transition into med school as possible.

That being said, it is my personal opinion that it is a TERRIBLE idea to plan on ignoring the PDA requirement. You will be required to use PDAs to answer exam questions, and I promise you that the professor of the class, as well as the proctors, will notice if you are answering those questions without the use of a PDA (usually, the first ten minutes of the exam are reserved for the PDA test questions, and it will be clear if someone is trying to take the test without one). Can you do well on the test even having received zero credit for those questions? Most likely. However, it raises a multitude of questions regarding the class's adherence to, and respect of the rules when it comes to PDAs, and I can virtually guarantee that the professor, and administration, will not be pleased with you guys. Think of it as the equivalent of walking into a two-hour exam 90 minutes late, thinking you can afford to just throw away questions because you're confident you'll do well enough without them.

The School will spend several hours, during the first few weeks of class, teaching you how to install the required programs on your Palm, as well as how to use them (in fact, during your first week here, you will each be given a mandatory appointment with IT for them to teach you how to use your PDA - not the best idea to show up without one); obviously, if the School is devoting their time and resources to PDA training, they see the PDAs as being of benefit to you.

Do I agree with integrating the use of a Palm so early into med school? Not really. It's a good skill to have, but often times seems like an unnecessary expense to have to shell out our hard-earned (or hard-borrowed) cash money on. However, if the administration is asking for you to use them on exams, then they most likely see the Palm as an incredibly important tool for you to have.

Also, a word of warning on borrowing PDAs from second-years for exams: many of us bought the Treo as our Palm requirement, meaning our PDA is integrated into our phone. You might be hard-pressed to get someone to allow you to use their phone for an afternoon exam (or longer, depending on how much time you think you need with the Palm to get comfortable with the med programs).

The OC is in communication with Dr. Symons (whose class requires you use the PDA) to find out how he will be using the Palm in the coming year, and to make sure that it is actually worth your while to buy one (again, we are not out to bilk you out of your loan money). As soon as we hear from him, we will, of course, let you know via official listserv. In the meantime, please be careful who you get your information from. Everyone has helpful advice, I'm sure, but the curriculum and requirements do change from year to year, and it is NOT a safe assumption that advice given to you by upperclassmen will translate well for your year. In fact, the class before us didn't have any exams that required PDAs, so again, it's a new deal, year after year.

Also, the only reason that word traveled so quickly to kdburton is because he's my roommate, and I was able to tell him what was going on from across the hall 😀

As always, please feel free to email anyone on the OC at [email protected]. Play on.
 
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Has anyone else not been added to the listserv yet?? Also, how long does it take to receive your financial aid package?? I was accepted about a week ago, and figured it would take a bit of time for the package, but not the listserv. I feel kind of like I'm missing out over here. Plus, I feel like there are things that I should be doing, but aren't because I don't know that they need to be done. Maybe I'm just super geeked to start this fall...
 
Has anyone else not been added to the listserv yet?? Also, how long does it take to receive your financial aid package?? I was accepted about a week ago, and figured it would take a bit of time for the package, but not the listserv. I feel kind of like I'm missing out over here. Plus, I feel like there are things that I should be doing, but aren't because I don't know that they need to be done. Maybe I'm just super geeked to start this fall...

You should ask Mr. Rosso to add you to the listserv. I wasn't added for almost 2 months. I emailed him about it and was added within 24 hours.
 
I emailed about being added to the listserv...hopefully that gets me on there!

And apparently, I am absolutely full of questions: has anyone heard of/seen Dockside Village Apartments? It's in Amherst, and has only been open for 2 years so there really aren't any reviews online about it. I'm probably going to be signing a lease for it, but I found it after my trip out there, so I haven't actually seen the property. If anyone has any info about it, or the general area even, I would really appreciate it! It's located on Transit Rd, just south of French Rd...is this a decent area to live in??
 
I emailed about being added to the listserv...hopefully that gets me on there!

And apparently, I am absolutely full of questions: has anyone heard of/seen Dockside Village Apartments? It's in Amherst, and has only been open for 2 years so there really aren't any reviews online about it. I'm probably going to be signing a lease for it, but I found it after my trip out there, so I haven't actually seen the property. If anyone has any info about it, or the general area even, I would really appreciate it! It's located on Transit Rd, just south of French Rd...is this a decent area to live in??

I live near County and Transit right now - that area is definitely safe, but boring and strip-mally. You'd be close to stores, but far from most of the going-out scene. Also, you'd probably take Main to UB South, and Main has a lot of stoplights and traffic, so the drive to school might not be so fun during busy hours. But, I've only lived here for a year, so a native Buffalonian might be able to give you more accurate info.
 
I am a native Buffalonian, so maybe I can help a bit. I looked into this place actually, as it seems very nice from the ads. If you can afford it, I think it would be a very nice place to live. I thought it was a bit to expensive at over $1,000/month without utilities for a 1 bedroom apartment. The area is nice, but yes it is very suburban - however if you arent into the bar scene (like me- I think it gets old quick) it doesn't really matter anyways. Also, its really more in Williamsville than Amherst and its probably about a 20 min ride to campus and 30 min ride to any of the hospitals downtown. Overall though I think it is a good choice!
 
I am a native Buffalonian, so maybe I can help a bit. I looked into this place actually, as it seems very nice from the ads. If you can afford it, I think it would be a very nice place to live. I thought it was a bit to expensive at over $1,000/month without utilities for a 1 bedroom apartment. The area is nice, but yes it is very suburban - however if you arent into the bar scene (like me- I think it gets old quick) it doesn't really matter anyways. Also, its really more in Williamsville than Amherst and its probably about a 20 min ride to campus and 30 min ride to any of the hospitals downtown. Overall though I think it is a good choice!

Thanks Dancer! I'm a so-so bar person, but I have a built in designated driver (my fiance and I switch off, so if he's going out with his friends I go pick him up, vice versa) so the distance in that regard shouldn't be a huge deal. Also, they are doing a lease special where it is $1150 a month for a two bedroom, and me and they boy split the rent so it ends up being pretty reasonable for how nice it is.

Ideally, I want to move closer to campus, but we could only go over for a couple of days to look at places, and those that we saw were practically slums! The main limiting factor is we have pets that we are not willing to give up. I figure that once I'm familiar with the area, this time next year, we will likely move closer to the hospitals and then stay put for the next three years. It's pretty hard to move somewhere when you can't go look at places as they come available...the nice clean ones go right away, and the crap is left over.
 
I should qualify my statement by saying that I am negatively biased towards the Transit area since I'm more a city girl 🙂

Also, I totally understand how tough it is to find a nice place that allows normal sized dogs! If you like the place and feel comfortable there, that's the important part.
 
Thanks for all the replies about housing areas...I really appreciate it! We decided to live at a place in Williamsville...although it's a little pricey, we figure we know we'll like it and its in a good area. Then this time next year, once we know the area better, we can move closer to school once we have some time to go look at places and aren't a six hour drive away. Moving all the time sucks, but it's better than living in an unsafe or crappy area!

Once final question, for now at least. How long did it take you guys to get your financial aid info? As an OOS person, I'm wondering exactly how big of a loan (if any) I will need to take out privately to cover the extra tuition. I know it usually takes a few weeks to get the money once you apply, and I was hoping to be able to shop around a bit before having to commit to a loan. However, I haven't heard anything back yet. I did send in all the info for the economically based scholarships...does anyone have a clue if they still have some to give out this late??
 
I have not received anything since the "acceptance packet," so I have not gotten any finaid letters. Also: do we need to wait until orientation before we get our UB Person#?

The apt I am going to live in next year is unfurnished...can anyone recommend any used furniture stores or know where I can get furniture without spending a fortune? Please PM if you have a bed / mattress / desk / chair / bookcase to sell! (My lease at the apt begins 8/1.) Thanks! 🙂
 
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Thanks Nick. I just canceled my Amazon order for a Pam TX. 😀 I hate having to spend money for unnecessary things.
Hey thzone,
r u going to order the PDA again? 🙂
I noticed the price on amazon just jumped up by $30.
 
Hey thzone,
r u going to order the PDA again? 🙂
I noticed the price on amazon just jumped up by $30.

I'm trying to get it cheap thru craiglist, but the buyer ain't returning my call :/
 
If anyone anticipates not needing all three of their tickets to the white coat ceremony, please PM me!!!! I'm looking!!!!
 
If anyone anticipates not needing all three of their tickets to the white coat ceremony, please PM me!!!! I'm looking!!!!


hey scowdeva, how did you find out we are getting 3 tickets for the white coat ceromony? do you know which day it is ?
 
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If anyone anticipates not needing all three of their tickets to the white coat ceremony, please PM me!!!! I'm looking!!!!
Wow you got more than 3 people going to your white coat ceremony? I can't even get my dog to go. How sad. I'm all alone for a long long time. :laugh:
 
Wow you got more than 3 people going to your white coat ceremony? I can't even get my dog to go. How sad. I'm all alone for a long long time. :laugh:

Awww, Laker, I can loan you a grandma or a mom for the day 🙂 My whole family only lives about a 4 hour drive away, and I'm the first person in my extended family to even graduate from college so it's kind of a big deal to them. The three tix were automatically gone to my parents and fiance...but if I could get more there are more people that want to go. It'd be super nice if they could go. I guess I never really thought about there being a limit, as the two big undergrads I went to never limited the number of people that could go to things like this, so I talked about it with family and now they want to go.
 
Wow you got more than 3 people going to your white coat ceremony? I can't even get my dog to go. How sad. I'm all alone for a long long time. :laugh:

You and me both L4L. CA is a long ways away from upstate NY 🙂
 
Awww, Laker, I can loan you a grandma or a mom for the day 🙂 My whole family only lives about a 4 hour drive away, and I'm the first person in my extended family to even graduate from college so it's kind of a big deal to them. The three tix were automatically gone to my parents and fiance...but if I could get more there are more people that want to go. It'd be super nice if they could go. I guess I never really thought about there being a limit, as the two big undergrads I went to never limited the number of people that could go to things like this, so I talked about it with family and now they want to go.
I'm still trying to get my sister and her husband to go. They live in Ohio so it's a 7 hour drive for them. They said they might go 'cuz they want to check out Niagara Falls afterward. I'll PM you later to let you know if they can make it or not.
 
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Ok, two weeks later, I'll post this question again and hopefully someone can help me out, since their office obviously won't: as an OOS entering student, am I going to need to take out private loans to make up the tuition difference, or are they met using gradplus or something? I finally got ahold of someone today after trying for the last week or so (it must be nice to just take off for vacations like that and leave students to fend for themselves) only to find out that I likely won't receive my financial aid until August at the earliest. I just need a ballpark idea if I'm going to have to take out massive private loans or not, to get the paperwork rolling, but they 'can't tell me that'. So very helpful. Rant over.
 
Ok, two weeks later, I'll post this question again and hopefully someone can help me out, since their office obviously won't: as an OOS entering student, am I going to need to take out private loans to make up the tuition difference, or are they met using gradplus or something? I finally got ahold of someone today after trying for the last week or so (it must be nice to just take off for vacations like that and leave students to fend for themselves) only to find out that I likely won't receive my financial aid until August at the earliest. I just need a ballpark idea if I'm going to have to take out massive private loans or not, to get the paperwork rolling, but they 'can't tell me that'. So very helpful. Rant over.
After July 1st you can apply for Grad PLUS loan for up to $18k/year. The link is
http://www.src.buffalo.edu/forms/financialaidforms.shtml

I'm also an OOS and the UNSUB DIRECT Stafford loan will just be just enough to cover the tuition. I will have to borrow Grad PLUS loan to pay for living expenses.
Btw, don't forget to complete the MPN and online entrance counseling quiz.
 
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The max you can borrow is the entire Cost of Attendance. As an OOS, the max is 60,055. So, whatever, the difference is between the federal loans and this amount, is what your grad plus can max out at. I'm OOS too. The good news for us is that after 1 year we can become NY residents and pay thousands less.
 
The max you can borrow is the entire Cost of Attendance. As an OOS, the max is 60,055. So, whatever, the difference is between the federal loans and this amount, is what your grad plus can max out at. I'm OOS too. The good news for us is that after 1 year we can become NY residents and pay thousands less.

Ok, so no matter what I should be covered with just the GradPlus in addition to the Stafford loans? I also received some scholarship money, so that will help offset the OOS cost. Thanks for the replies, I was just starting to worry that I would have to find the money privately elsewhere and be under the gun for it. If I know the Stafford and GradPlus programs will cover the cost, then I can relax and just try to wait patiently for the package.
 
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